I think ghostrek keeps making this thread because he misses the female user he liked to creep on, and crapshot because he was the only person who spelled worse than him. Now there's no one else to take heat for being borderline illiterate
Before this entire tirade happened, only 1- if not at max 2- people have casually and indirectly said that they were reminded of why they hate gif posting. No one had told me or asked me to stop. The only person that recommended I do was Ben, and that was based off the assumption that the downvotes were made with that in mind.
If the downvotes were due to gif inclusion, that was not made clear by the downvoters, and Ben's advice was based off a slight chance that those downvotes were due to gifs. I didn't feel inclined to curb my interests or behavior based off the slight, very very slight chance that downvotes were due to that behavior. That is extremely valid mind you.
Should they have posted a gif expressing annoyance in order for you to get the idea? Spare me the "WELL NOBODY ASKED ME DIRECTLY" nonsense, because their opinion was clear and you're splitting hairs. And a "very very slight chance"? Really? People expressed their annoyance previously, other people told you that gifs were probably the cause, and the common theme between all your posts is the presence of gifs? The only other thing it could even be was your constant outrage over people daring to downvote you. At this point it's either that you didn't pick up on something you damn well should've been able to pick up on or that you chose to willfully ignore it because you were demanding people come forward.
Not really. Have you never gone onto goodreads? People there post reviews with a helluva lot of gifs embedded. Why? I've read plenty of reviews without any, and they were what they were supposed to be, reviews. Right. They conveyed what the person wanted to say, etc. But when you go on goodreads, where there's gifs all over the place, it adds another layer of communication and emotional conveying into the mix. It's also funnier or simply more enjoyable.
It's not that I can't "properly" convey what I want to in my writing- though I do think that is the case regardless of the gif inclusion. It's about "better" conveying what I want in my writing, or at the very least having fun. I am actually enjoying looking up gifs to add to my posts. Gif posting has multiple purposes afterall.
Oh, please. Gifs are a visual shorthand in the same way that image macros are; the fact that they're capable of conveying a hugely simplified feeling or idea does not mean they enhance our written communication as a people or that they can't be hugely overused. So once again, if you feel like you absolutely NEED them to communicate as best as you can, that says way more about you than it says anything about our species.
What is "this" that you were referring to? Downvoting? I don't think downvoting is destroying or bullying. I think EXCESSIVE downvoting is. I think THREATENING someone is. What I was accusing of being akin to hitler's behavior, is the idea- that was being supplied mind you- that someone should intentionally downvote someone into the depths of hell (negative x amount) on purpose, if the person does not change their behavior. The threat to do that, and the will to carry it out if the behavior is unchanged, is bullying. It is the intent to destroy someone, or at least is the intent to make someone feel like they are to be destroyed, that is what's not okay. Just because you don't like something someone's doing, doesn't mean you have to try and pressure them.
If you're just talking about what alucard (or whatever the hell account he's using now since I don't feel like looking) said, sure. That was dumb and weird. But if you're trying to make the case for downvoting in general being "destroying" or "bullying" or "something Hitler would do" (which is still a ridiculous comparison to make either way), then we've got problems.
I'm fine with the downvotes. The beginning of this entire situation started off with me wanting to be straight with people in letting them know that it would be better to tell me what was bothering them than to downvote me, because of the sake of effectiveness. I may not have said it in the most efficient of ways, but that was the intent. Then, when Ben supplied a proposed reason, I was straight with him as well. If the gifs were the reason, instead of downvoting me, they should tell me- TELL ME, NOT THREATEN ME. Huge difference.
Bullshit. Half your posts in this thread are complaining about the fact that people are downvoting you and that they haven't come forward like you have demanded that they do. You are very clearly NOT fine with them since you spent so much time bemoaning that people were doing it to you. Nobody's obligated to "be straight" with you. If you're gonna play the "I'm well within my rights to post a bunch of gifs" card, the same thing applies to people downvoting you and not telling you. They don't have to come forward. They can do whatever the hell they want, and you repeatedly complaining that they're doing it solves nothing.
Already explained this. But I'll hit the nail directly: No one told me to stop my behavior before this entire tirade. I already addressed this in an earlier post but someone commenting "I was now reminded why I hate gif posting thanks to pearl" is not the same as asking someone to stop. You'll probably call BS to that, but it's a difference in interpretation and a matter of semantics. I do, and you may not like this or comprehend this, but I do see a difference. It may be unreasonable, and I can work on this if need be, but in my point of view, they are two different things.
So you admit it's simple semantics. The intent is pretty obvious, but you choose not to acknowledge the intent because they didn't ask nicely in the way Pearlday demanded that they do, and I think the problem with that should be pretty obvious. Like, are you expecting sympathy from "I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND YET I REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL THEY ASK ME DIRECTLY"? Because that's about as bad as anything you've been complaining about.
Why don't we get straight to the point. Why don't we simplify this a bit. What are you trying to say? That i'm full of crap? Just say it directly, don't need to beat around the bush. You think I'm full of crap, that's fine.
Also, next time get your facts straight. Before this entire storm of crapola happened, I had posted 70ish posts, and had over 50 kudos. All but 1 of those posts- the first post, had at least 1 gif included. So, all those posts having the commonality of gifs is bullcrap. Also, considering I only ever got -1 or max -2 on any post, saying that it should have been a simple deduction to assume that the point reduction was because of gifs is actually a fallacy. So, good fact checking.
See, the fact that you can't get out of your own head, is enough for me to just stop this entire convo with you. You can't understand me, or you simply refuse to. I don't even understand what you're trying to get across at this point. You want to convince me that I'm full of shit? Not happening. You want to convince me to not gif post anymore? Not happening.
The fact is that you are perhaps willfully trying to ignore a lot of what I've posted. I'm gonna right now, right here, call you out. Please supply evidence to support your "YOU DIDN'T WANT TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING, YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHO DOWNVOTED YOU AND WERE DEMANDING AN EXPLANATION AND THAT THE PERSON THAT CALLED YOU OUT COME FORTH TO REVEAL 'EMSELVES" cause that really was not what was happening. I don't care who downvoted me. Did I ever post 'WHO DOWNVOTED ME! COME FORWARD SO YOU CAN FEEL MY WRATH!' No. No I didn't. But guess what, I have evidence, in the same posts you keep trying to allude to, that I was actually trying to EDUCATE people that a downvote does not result in a change in behavior. Explaining what's wrong does. If you just downvote, then it is unclear. I may have been extremely aggressive in saying that, but that is what I was saying, and quite bluntly too.
So guess what. Post the proof. Cause otherwise I'm going to ignore you. People think differently, and the fact that you refuse to believe that other people can interpret dialogue differently just shows what you're made of.
I think you made your point. I think you made it loud and clear. Now what? My behavior ain't gonna change. And guess what, I will be petty. I was gonna follow poke's advice and do the double arrows. I even upvoted him for it! Because of you, I will refuse to tag my post.
That being said, and this is something I decided earlier. I will post no more than 2 gifs per post unless otherwise encouraged. Good day sir.
Hmmm so we've got drug abuse and gambling in our fifth episode! :D Coconuts may not admit it, but his viral(kinda) youtube video proves he's destined to take over the shop. Not enough Saya this week sadly, but at least we saw sour faced Hotaru! :D Speaking of I couldn't help but be reminded of:
Another fantastic episode as usual, f**k the haterz! :D
I'm disappointed with that... not even a battle they had. I've been waiting for this fight for the entire time Bleach has been running. Way to ruin it, Kubo. Couldn't we have gotten the reveal after they fought for a little bit?