I'm sure this has been said, but if you are taking away the upvote by hitting the downvote you aren't just taking it away you are adding a downvote.
If you want to go back to 0 like nothing happened just hit the upvote again.
Figured that one already
The one that has me puzzled is the -2 I did somehow on a thread with +12 somehow making have +10 when did it somehow
As has already been said, you and someone else probably downvoted at the same time. I've never seen the vote thing update in real time, so when you were reading a thread, someone downvoted the post from 12 to 11. But when you saw that post, the counter hadn't updated on your screen yet. When you entered your own downvote, that refreshed the counter for you and you saw it go from 12 to 10. I saw this go on sometimes with kudos from the old board.
The Emperor was likely conditioned and trained from birth to be this way. So yeah, I'd say he's innocent. Plus, I thought the goal was to kill the Minister, not the Emperor? It seemed like they would spare the boy!
that's what a show that knew how to tell a coherent story would do.