10-17-2011 02:02 AM
The problem with poverty in America isn't starvation, it's obesity, the end result of gluttony.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 02:06 AM - edited 10-17-2011 02:08 AM
I know, right......We gotta get our hands on some of that starvation.
I mean because starving Americans are just fatties that have to eat Red Baron instead of Digiorno.......We all know there are NO starving people in America.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 02:37 AM - edited 10-17-2011 04:55 AM
1938_Packard wrote:The problem with poverty in America isn't starvation, it's obesity, the end result of gluttony.
Because the cheapest most readily available and preparable food in our society is fattening as all hell and people working full time jobs don't have much time to exercise regularly.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 02:47 AM
Fattening foods are cheaper then healthy foods for the most part. You are thrifty you should know that.
Also poor people don't exercise as much?
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 02:49 AM
Because most of the jobs in this country do not require people to move very much at all, delicious unhealthy food is very cheap and most people are poor, and overall most people are just okay with themselves being fat because it is easier than being fit and people are lazy.
There is a lot of waste and gluttony though, people who never really got how food actually works and all they know is "I need to eat very much, every day," and I'll never understand people who are like "We need to find some place to grab lunch I am STARVING" but that is probably due to my lifelong irregular eating habits.
Reply to alucardsexyghost - Message ID#: 62090494
10-17-2011 02:54 AM - edited 10-17-2011 02:56 AM
alucardsexyghost wrote:Fattening foods are cheaper than healthy foods for the most part. You are thrifty you should know that.
Also poor people don't exercise as much?
When cheaper foods are fattening, eat less of them. Also, I wouldn't call laying around in front of the tv loaded down with a ten pound value pack of Oreos and three cases of beer waiting for the food stamp card account to recharge exercise.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090538
10-17-2011 03:12 AM
1938_Packard wrote:
alucardsexyghost wrote:Fattening foods are cheaper than healthy foods for the most part. You are thrifty you should know that.
Also poor people don't exercise as much?
When cheaper foods are fattening, eat less of them. Also, I wouldn't call laying around in front of the tv loaded down with a ten pound value pack of Oreos and three cases of beer waiting for the food stamp card account to recharge exercise.
Why do you have such a negitive view of poor people? I mean you really like the negitive sterotypes.
Reply to alucardsexyghost - Message ID#: 62090624
10-17-2011 03:20 AM
For whatever reason, many people find negative stereotypes easier to come to terms with.
Also, they can be easier to make fun of.
Reply to alucardsexyghost - Message ID#: 62090624
10-17-2011 03:31 AM
alucardsexyghost wrote:
1938_Packard wrote:
alucardsexyghost wrote:Fattening foods are cheaper than healthy foods for the most part. You are thrifty you should know that.
Also poor people don't exercise as much?
When cheaper foods are fattening, eat less of them. Also, I wouldn't call laying around in front of the tv loaded down with a ten pound value pack of Oreos and three cases of beer waiting for the food stamp card account to recharge exercise.
Why do you have such a negitive view of poor people? I mean you really like the negitive sterotypes.
The height of a person's esteem for the American poor is inversely proportional to his interaction with them.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090692
10-17-2011 03:34 AM
I want a fridge that can update me on the latest news via CNN while I am getting my cup of crushed ice.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090692
10-17-2011 03:35 AM
eh I grew up as the American poor and I my family never fit into the stereotypes you spout on about here. And I've known many people who would fit into the category of "poor" that don't either.
What exactly do you consider poor? Are you only poor if you take government aid?
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090692
10-17-2011 03:38 AM
Even if you're right and most/all poor people deserve to be poor as a punishment for not being rich, you can't empathize with them just as people enough to want to throw a few more crumbs at them to make their unfixable lives better since you know food stamps and welfare programs really don't take up a very large part at all of America's budget?
Reply to alucardsexyghost - Message ID#: 62090722
10-17-2011 04:18 AM
"poor" in America is a broad term that covers a few subsets.
Welfare bum: Cradle to grave on some Gov hand out program or another and never once even tried to do any work, typically thinking that any sort of work whatsoever lowers their dignity or in the worst case, thinking that the mere fact of their own existence entitles them to everything they want upon demand.
Working poor: Typically shopaholics who, no matter how much they get paid always end up in some horrible debt situation and chasing around to fix whatever catastrophies they cause for themselves by foolishly spending more and driving up even greater debts. They are quite often seen jumping in bed with every Tom, Fred and Monica that winks at them over a beer and wondering why they can't support their five + kids.
The boomarang kids: People who just simply never wanted to grow up. They think they have all the answers until they get nine steps away from their parents' front steps. Then, Boom! Reality hits them. Getting out from under parent rules means working and paying for their own housing. They'll take out government loans. They'll study stuff in college that couldn't possibly be of any value in a real working environment. They find that they still have no marketable skills and still have to be burger flippers or janitors. Frustrated, they then march right back to where their parents have kept their rooms in museum condition so they can live like ten year olds the rest of their lives... and hoping to inherit the house.
Those that move without considering the risks: They start off on the right foot, but get way too smug in their success. Then they start taking bigger and bigger risks with their careers until ultimately they louse things up so bad that they can never get hired again in the only professions they have ever known. They often end up living in sleazy flop houses trying to use mental disorders as an excuse to mooch off Gov. In some cases, they end up as incoherent street bums who can't do any more than boast of how high up they USED to be, followed by some dribble about how they're in the streets because the deck was stacked against them all along. If they start drinking or doing drugs at that point, they become denpa as well.
The addict: Drugs and alcohol rule the day for these idiots, all the time. They put it above all obligations of work, family, friendship and even nourishment or hygene. They just die early.
The "Get over" mentality: Shux, if they would only put a quarter of their time playing the work game by its rules as they do cooking up clever little ways to cheat at it, they'd surely be winners.
Now, some times these categories get combined to make hybrids that often end up as criminals.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090926
10-17-2011 04:33 AM
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Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090926
10-17-2011 04:35 AM
Yep never fit into any of those growing up. Didn't have any loans or credit, and the only time we really bought anything not needed was christmas and birthdays. And normally we would buy those when they were huge sales and store them for sometimes up to a year. I do know someone that fits into your "working poor" catagory. But yeah you're real classy.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090926
10-17-2011 04:36 AM
1938_Packard wrote:"poor" in America is a broad term that covers a few subsets.
Welfare bum: Cradle to grave on some Gov hand out program or another and never once even tried to do any work, typically thinking that any sort of work whatsoever lowers their dignity or in the worst case, thinking that the mere fact of their own existence entitles them to everything they want upon demand.
Working poor: Typically shopaholics who, no matter how much they get paid always end up in some horrible debt situation and chasing around to fix whatever catastrophies they cause for themselves by foolishly spending more and driving up even greater debts. They are quite often seen jumping in bed with every Tom, Fred and Monica that winks at them over a beer and wondering why they can't support their five + kids.
The boomarang kids: People who just simply never wanted to grow up. They think they have all the answers until they get nine steps away from their parents' front steps. Then, Boom! Reality hits them. Getting out from under parent rules means working and paying for their own housing. They'll take out government loans. They'll study stuff in college that couldn't possibly be of any value in a real working environment. They find that they still have no marketable skills and still have to be burger flippers or janitors. Frustrated, they then march right back to where their parents have kept their rooms in museum condition so they can live like ten year olds the rest of their lives... and hoping to inherit the house.
Those that move without considering the risks: They start off on the right foot, but get way too smug in their success. Then they start taking bigger and bigger risks with their careers until ultimately they louse things up so bad that they can never get hired again in the only professions they have ever known. They often end up living in sleazy flop houses trying to use mental disorders as an excuse to mooch off Gov. In some cases, they end up as incoherent street bums who can't do any more than boast of how high up they USED to be, followed by some dribble about how they're in the streets because the deck was stacked against them all along. If they start drinking or doing drugs at that point, they become denpa as well.
The addict: Drugs and alcohol rule the day for these idiots, all the time. They put it above all obligations of work, family, friendship and even nourishment or hygene. They just die early.
The "Get over" mentality: Shux, if they would only put a quarter of their time playing the work game by its rules as they do cooking up clever little ways to cheat at it, they'd surely be winners.
Now, some times these categories get combined to make hybrids that often end up as criminals.
Kudos for knowing your place amongst skilled workers........So explain to me why anyone should listen to someone with no marketable skills.
Reply to Buddyroe360 - Message ID#: 62090068
10-17-2011 05:19 AM
Buddyroe360 wrote:I know, right......We gotta get our hands on some of that starvation.
I mean because starving Americans are just fatties that have to eat Red Baron instead of Digiorno.......We all know there are NO starving people in America.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090926
10-17-2011
06:04 AM
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1938_Packard wrote:
"poor" in America is a broad term that covers a few subsets.
Welfare bum: Cradle to grave on some Gov hand out program or another and never once even tried to do any work, typically thinking that any sort of work whatsoever lowers their dignity or in the worst case, thinking that the mere fact of their own existence entitles them to everything they want upon demand.
My father died when I was 4. If it wasn't for the government my mom would have probably killed herself and I'd be selling drugs right now...which might be more productive than posting on here...>.>
1938_Packard wrote:
Working poor: Typically shopaholics who, no matter how much they get paid always end up in some horrible debt situation and chasing around to fix whatever catastrophies they cause for themselves by foolishly spending more and driving up even greater debts. They are quite often seen jumping in bed with every Tom, Fred and Monica that winks at them over a beer and wondering why they can't support their five + kids.
*Buys toilet paper and ramen noodle*
Dang my addiction
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Btw, me love you long time for dolla.
1938_Packard wrote:
The boomarang kids: People who just simply never wanted to grow up. They think they have all the answers until they get nine steps away from their parents' front steps. Then, Boom! Reality hits them. Getting out from under parent rules means working and paying for their own housing. They'll take out government loans. They'll study stuff in college that couldn't possibly be of any value in a real working environment. They find that they still have no marketable skills and still have to be burger flippers or janitors. Frustrated, they then march right back to where their parents have kept their rooms in museum condition so they can live like ten year olds the rest of their lives... and hoping to inherit the house.
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1938_Packard wrote:
Those that move without considering the risks: They start off on the right foot, but get way too smug in their success. Then they start taking bigger and bigger risks with their careers until ultimately they louse things up so bad that they can never get hired again in the only professions they have ever known. They often end up living in sleazy flop houses trying to use mental disorders as an excuse to mooch off Gov. In some cases, they end up as incoherent street bums who can't do any more than boast of how high up they USED to be, followed by some dribble about how they're in the streets because the deck was stacked against them all along. If they start drinking or doing drugs at that point, they become denpa as well.
The addict: Drugs and alcohol rule the day for these idiots, all the time. They put it above all obligations of work, family, friendship and even nourishment or hygene. They just die early.
The "Get over" mentality: Shux, if they would only put a quarter of their time playing the work game by its rules as they do cooking up clever little ways to cheat at it, they'd surely be winners.
Now, some times these categories get combined to make hybrids that often end up as criminals.
Or they get a, what's the word, "bail out"?
Now, you're right about some things. I'm now a grown man and instead of working I just spend my days studying and flirting with women. I can surely take on more responsibility, but choose not to over-actively chase it. But you overlooked the fact that America is founded on equal opportunity. Just because I might squander my life does not mean that others' opportunities should be taken away. The government understands that if you help a parent, then the child has the opportunity to avoid the parent's mistake. That if you give a dude some wellfare who is genuinely disadvantaged then he might be less likely to go stab an old lady for her purse. So please don't look at it like you are, look at it as a way of helping many by helping one.
and on a different point of view, if the government takes away all the social programs then the job creators are going to have a riot on their hands. Yes, I do mean a riot. They're going to have unions sprouting up everywhere demanding more pay, insurance, and longer working hours. Things that might turn capitalism on it's head and set up an opportunity for socialism. So, up with government support, down with socialism?
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 08:55 AM
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 09:48 AM
1938_Packard wrote:The problem with poverty in America isn't starvation, it's obesity, the end result of gluttony.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090538
10-17-2011 09:50 AM - edited 10-17-2011 09:51 AM
1938_Packard wrote:
alucardsexyghost wrote:Fattening foods are cheaper than healthy foods for the most part. You are thrifty you should know that.
Also poor people don't exercise as much?
When cheaper foods are fattening, eat less of them. Also, I wouldn't call laying around in front of the tv loaded down with a ten pound value pack of Oreos and three cases of beer waiting for the food stamp card account to recharge exercise.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 02:45 PM
1938_Packard wrote:The problem with poverty in America isn't starvation, it's obesity, the end result of gluttony.
No one said anything about "starvation", they said "hungry". You can be hungry all the time without starving to death.
Reply to Buddyroe360 - Message ID#: 62090068
10-17-2011 02:48 PM
Buddyroe360 wrote:I know, right......We gotta get our hands on some of that starvation.
I mean because starving Americans are just fatties that have to eat Red Baron instead of Digiorno.......We all know there are NO starving people in America.
Oh, I'm sure it has nothing to do with high-calorie, low nutrition, fat and sugar-filled food being much cheaper than healthier food.
Reply to Drake6-5 - Message ID#: 62090402
10-17-2011 02:49 PM
Drake6-5 wrote:
1938_Packard wrote:The problem with poverty in America isn't starvation, it's obesity, the end result of gluttony.
Because the cheapest most readily available and preparable food in our society is fattening as all hell and people working full time jobs don't have much time to exercise regularly.
Not to mention a salad costs just as much as a full meal in many fast-food places.
Reply to 1938_Packard - Message ID#: 62090048
10-17-2011 02:52 PM
1938_Packard wrote:The problem with poverty in America isn't starvation, it's obesity, the end result of gluttony.
Okay so you hate the poor of America because they aren't quite yet starving to death, and you want them to starve some so they won't be eating so much to get fat?
I think there will be a special place in janitor hell for people like you when they die.
Zero compassion for people suffering. No remorose for those who don't have the means to get by from day to day.
You also make it a point to create threads like this that truly make you look like a boil on Satans ass crack, just to the left of his **beast**.
My family and I not so very long ago would go for two weeks and sometimes more with enough food to make one small meal a day.
Fried potatoes, soup beans and mother **beast** bologna.
I ate bologna till I can't stand it to this day, but when you're hungry and can't get anything else. You'll pallate anything in all honesty.
During those six long years I also recieved food assistance out of a local Church.
Not somthing I'm proud to admit, but what small nourishment they give my family I was glad to get. It helped.
The problem with America isn't the poor, the starving the down trodden nor the obese, it's fools like you whom in their almighty smugness look down on everyone around them.
You are the problem with this country, and all your Conservative ilk who know no hardship or have no feelings for others.
You will get yours one day for Karma is a b!tch.
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