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Order of the Owl
Detroit_Red
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Registered: ‎01-28-2008

ITT: Why I hate Apple

Get it? Got it? Now sign it.

The problem is that white people see racism as conscious hate, when racism is bigger than that. Racism is a complex system of social and political levers and pulleys set up generations ago to continue working on the behalf of whites at other people’s expense, whether whites know/like it or not. Racism is an insidious cultural disease. It is so insidious that it doesn’t care if you are a white person who likes black people; it’s still
going to find a way to infect how you deal with people who don’t look like you. Yes, racism looks like hate, but hate is just one manifestation. Privilege is another. Access is another. Ignorance is another. Apathy is another. And so on. So while I agree with people who say no one is born racist, it remains a powerful system that we’re immediately born into. It’s like being born into air: you take it in as soon as you breathe. It’s not a cold that you can get over. There is no anti-racist certification class. It’s a set of socioeconomic traps and cultural values that are fired up every time we interact with the world. It is a thing you have to keep scooping out of the boat of your life to keep from drowning in it. I know it’s hard work, but it’s the price you pay for owning everything. -Scott Woods

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redsilversnake
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

Why just Apple? Why not Sony, Microsoft, and all the other companies who also use FoxConn as well?

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History teaches that it doesn't.
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Detroit_Red
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to redsilversnake - Message ID#: 63501691

Because you touch yourself at night.

The problem is that white people see racism as conscious hate, when racism is bigger than that. Racism is a complex system of social and political levers and pulleys set up generations ago to continue working on the behalf of whites at other people’s expense, whether whites know/like it or not. Racism is an insidious cultural disease. It is so insidious that it doesn’t care if you are a white person who likes black people; it’s still
going to find a way to infect how you deal with people who don’t look like you. Yes, racism looks like hate, but hate is just one manifestation. Privilege is another. Access is another. Ignorance is another. Apathy is another. And so on. So while I agree with people who say no one is born racist, it remains a powerful system that we’re immediately born into. It’s like being born into air: you take it in as soon as you breathe. It’s not a cold that you can get over. There is no anti-racist certification class. It’s a set of socioeconomic traps and cultural values that are fired up every time we interact with the world. It is a thing you have to keep scooping out of the boat of your life to keep from drowning in it. I know it’s hard work, but it’s the price you pay for owning everything. -Scott Woods

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Goldar
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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Those never work.
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the_shotgun_rhetoric
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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redsilversnake wrote:

Why just Apple? Why not Sony, Microsoft, and all the other companies who also use FoxConn as well?


I think it's because Apple paints itself as the hipster-friendly, humanity-aware alternative to all of those. Nevermind that Steve Jobs was arguably a bigger **noel** than Bill Gates ever was, or that it's all just a **noel** marketing campaign like numerous others previously shoved down the throats of consumer culture. 

The made-up stories are all about brilliant handsome rich suave people who almost get away with it; the real stories are about stupid, mean pigs who confess the minute they get brought into the interrogation room. Just scum killing scum, for some dumb reason or no reason at all. That’s the smell of truth. ~ Gary Brecher
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desantoos
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to the_shotgun_rhetoric - Message ID#: 63502631

Yeah, it's hilarious how all of the "concerned" people turned away from Microsoft, whose founder has spent more money in philanthropy than anybody else ever trying to rid the world of horrible diseases, while they continue to worship Apple, whose former leader was notorious for hating any sort of giving and ran a business with no concern for the environment or human beings in general.

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VTEKID
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

Where was the petition to protect the workers making Xbox 360's? Or is it just the cool, rebellious thing to hate on Apple?

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MusketBoned
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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Apple's been in the news recently. Flavor of the month.

They are pretty terrible as a company though. Then again lots of companies are terrible.
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Detroit_Red
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to VTEKID - Message ID#: 63503633

HEY LOOKIE HEER BUB, I BEEN HATIN APPLE SINCE EVE!

 

 

DID........ didja see wat I did there?

The problem is that white people see racism as conscious hate, when racism is bigger than that. Racism is a complex system of social and political levers and pulleys set up generations ago to continue working on the behalf of whites at other people’s expense, whether whites know/like it or not. Racism is an insidious cultural disease. It is so insidious that it doesn’t care if you are a white person who likes black people; it’s still
going to find a way to infect how you deal with people who don’t look like you. Yes, racism looks like hate, but hate is just one manifestation. Privilege is another. Access is another. Ignorance is another. Apathy is another. And so on. So while I agree with people who say no one is born racist, it remains a powerful system that we’re immediately born into. It’s like being born into air: you take it in as soon as you breathe. It’s not a cold that you can get over. There is no anti-racist certification class. It’s a set of socioeconomic traps and cultural values that are fired up every time we interact with the world. It is a thing you have to keep scooping out of the boat of your life to keep from drowning in it. I know it’s hard work, but it’s the price you pay for owning everything. -Scott Woods

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ArmTheHomeless
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

Their products alone are reason enough for me to hate them.
Maybe this is the one, the one I won't come back from: the end. Just playin' with your head! Would you rescue me if it were true?

Your grasp of the obvious is inspiring.

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HanginWithMrDeadHead
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

anyone who didn't know this already doesn't use their apple device to follow tech news or blogs.
touch the screen
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conanwong
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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also this.

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FrankHam
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

maybe instead of this petition you should stop buying consumer electronics. As long as there is a demand for cutting edge electronics at low prices stuff like this is going to keep happening.
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

That should be a petition to bring jobs back to the United States where workers have rights, not a boycott Apple type of petition.

People need to face facts, everything we get in the states that is made in China has this same issue, bring the jobs home and solve such issues once and for all.

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Vagiknightous
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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if i have to pay double to triple the amount for a mac than a pc just to have a decent one then im out on apple. A thousand bucks can get me a badass pc that I can format and put together for cheap cheap. Thats my big concern about apple its outragous prices. Mac pro 1500- over 2000, badass gaming pc 1000 bucks (maybe a little bit more depending on personal prefernces)

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FrankHam
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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China is too far ahead of the US in labor like this. Where are you going to find over 300,000 americans to work 12 hour shifts 6 days a week? and if we bring the assembly factory we have to bring some of the manufacturers back.
I was reading an article a while ago and basically most of their parts manufacturers are located very closely, which I'm sure not only saves on shipping but is very convenient. There's just no way our country could handle the demand of that kind of labor. I work in a factory and people whine and complain about working late one or two days a week. I think in a way unions have crippled the efficiency of the american labor force. And I'm not talking about having higher wages for workers. More in the sense that it has caused SUCH an inefficiency in people working, they all take long breaks, are lazy, **noel**ty employees but because they belong to a union they can't be fired for doing a **noel**ty job.
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scoobdog
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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MusketBoned wrote:
Apple's been in the news recently. Flavor of the month.

They are pretty terrible as a company though. Then again lots of companies are terrible.


This.  I love my Mac and would give it up in a heart-beat if it meant supporting a company that did things right.  But, the problems with supply chains and labor pools (both a result of the move to overseas production) are too complex to be fixed overnight.  It's to the point now that there are lot of terrible companies out there, some (unlike Apple) who are terrible out of necessity.

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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

Reply to Detroit_Red - Message ID#: 63501669

Just did.

 

But I doubt those smug fuuuuuudges in clown pants & nerd glasses will care.

 

Caring & human rights are so 90s.

 

And we know what the Bush era kids think: the 90s **noel** bruh.

 

Cuz ya know, havin a job is a bad thing & stuff. As long as my dad owns a dealership & I have an iPodiFart I'm good.

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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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redsilversnake wrote:

Why just Apple? Why not Sony, Microsoft, and all the other companies who also use FoxConn as well?


Because its cool to hit on Apple.

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TahoeDenver
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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desantoos wrote:

Yeah, it's hilarious how all of the "concerned" people turned away from Microsoft, whose founder has spent more money in philanthropy than anybody else ever trying to rid the world of horrible diseases, while they continue to worship Apple, whose former leader was notorious for hating any sort of giving and ran a business with no concern for the environment or human beings in general.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjxSNwenylk

 

BUT

 

BUT BUT

 

^^ look @ how cool those Bush kids are!! They're multicolored & playin overrated Bush mp3 players.

 

OMGZ!!!

李德 Li De

"i have never encountered anyone who is wrong about so many things in my entire life. i'm being completely serious. i honestly cannot understand how one person can be this full of wrong and not either have accidentally offed themselves or been beaten to death by an angry mob. you're a living, breathing, disastrous miracle." - Saddy

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Satoh
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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I wonder how many people signed this from their iPhones.

Oh, cruel irony.
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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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desantoos wrote:

Yeah, it's hilarious how all of the "concerned" people turned away from Microsoft, whose founder has spent more money in philanthropy than anybody else ever trying to rid the world of horrible diseases, while they continue to worship Apple, whose former leader was notorious for hating any sort of giving and ran a business with no concern for the environment or human beings in general.


this x 100.

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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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Unions destroying labor in America is a joke. The problem is CEO's and it always has been. The problem is top down and the man on bottom holds the least fault.
Maybe this is the one, the one I won't come back from: the end. Just playin' with your head! Would you rescue me if it were true?

Your grasp of the obvious is inspiring.

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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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Detroit_Red wrote:

Get it? Got it? Now sign it.


+1

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Re: ITT: Why I hate Apple

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redsilversnake wrote:

Why just Apple? Why not Sony, Microsoft, and all the other companies who also use FoxConn as well?


Because Bush hipsters like Apple.

 

Its too popular & therefore has to be humbled & destroyed. Its the law of anarchy.

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