Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-19-2012 04:07 PM
What Everyone Should Know About Trayvon Martin (1995-2012)
Reply to FussyMcFusserson - Message ID#: 64147765
03-19-2012 04:18 PM
I'm telling you people skittles are a dangerous weapon.
But seriously the family needs to sue Zimmerman. If he isn't going to jail at least he can spend every penny he has in reparations.
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-19-2012 04:19 PM
Reply to Glodson - Message ID#: 64148031
03-19-2012 04:22 PM
"I heard the teenager call for help"
"no you didn't it was the shooter that cried for help OK?"
yeah because police should always tell witnesses what they heard/saw.
Reply to alucardsexyghost - Message ID#: 64148099
03-19-2012 04:26 PM - edited 03-19-2012 04:27 PM
Exactly. We all know that first you figure out what happened, then you make the evidence suit that narrative.
It would be insane to let a man go who stalked and killed an unarmed teen who just look suspicious as he was the wrong color, so it must be that the teen was insane with hormones and weaponized Skittles in such a way to change the entire meaning of "taste the rainbow," and this poor 240 pound armed man had to defend himself. It was obviously self-defense, because if it was a case where a man stalked and murdered a child, the police would be investigating.
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-19-2012 04:33 PM
Oh whoa, that was right by the mall. and next to the derby track.
Reply to FussyMcFusserson - Message ID#: 64147765
03-19-2012 04:33 PM
Wow. As if it wasn't clear enough already, this brings what actually happened into 1080p. How could the police be so blind, or so racist as to not acknowledge that a murder was committed here?
FussyMcFusserson wrote:What Everyone Should Know About Trayvon Martin (1995-2012)
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-19-2012 04:36 PM
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64148361
03-19-2012 05:21 PM
The_Pirate-King wrote:Wow. As if it wasn't clear enough already, this brings what actually happened into 1080p. How could the police be so blind, or so racist as to not acknowledge that a murder was committed here?
FussyMcFusserson wrote:What Everyone Should Know About Trayvon Martin (1995-2012)
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-19-2012 06:35 PM
sure is racist in there
now, lets hear white people try to say that racism isn't rampant in this country anymore
Reply to Glodson - Message ID#: 64148031
03-19-2012 06:44 PM
Glodson wrote:
This story shouldn't exist. This moron should have just been arrested. He essentially told the 911 operator that he was going action hero on this small teen.
But I guess it takes a real man to confront an unarmed kid who is walking and weighs over 100 pounds less than yourself from the safety of your car while armed with a gun.
And the race factor is impossible to escape. If this had been a young white boy shot under similar circumstances, I would bet the shooter would already be in jail and full investigation would be underway.
This police department is crap.
i saw on the news today the people that live there now live in fear and distrust of their police dept
of course they are! they can now be shot down and no one will do anything about it!
if i live there.. with my already bad nerves, lol, id be moving and using that sh*t as an excuse to be let out of my lease
Reply to Glodson - Message ID#: 64148187
03-19-2012 06:46 PM
Glodson wrote:Exactly. We all know that first you figure out what happened, then you make the evidence suit that narrative.
It would be insane to let a man go who stalked and killed an unarmed teen who just look suspicious as he was the wrong color, so it must be that the teen was insane with hormones and weaponized Skittles in such a way to change the entire meaning of "taste the rainbow," and this poor 240 pound armed man had to defend himself. It was obviously self-defense, because if it was a case where a man stalked and murdered a child, the police would be investigating.
SpoilerThis may have been sarcastic.
####, Glodson. More brillance. I wish this man was in court and YOU were the defense attorney.
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-19-2012 07:42 PM
Reply to Cepheus84 - Message ID#: 64151567
03-19-2012 07:44 PM
Cepheus84 wrote:
The guy's a trigger-happy douche who deserves to go to jail.
but he didnt and the police dont agree with you. THATS the problem.
i posted the petition link on my page and friends pages on facebook. even a high profile chick with friends in the music industry. im hoping they read it and do something
Reply to fugglesss - Message ID#: 64151593
03-19-2012 07:50 PM
ZIMMERMAN 2012
hashtag it, friends.
Reply to Nyanya - Message ID#: 64151685
03-19-2012 11:33 PM
Reply to dposse - Message ID#: 64155921
03-19-2012 11:37 PM
heh Neighborhood watch boy is going down, and the police department is going to look like idiots.
Reply to fugglesss - Message ID#: 64150457
03-20-2012 11:42 AM
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-20-2012 11:55 AM
Reply to Glodson - Message ID#: 64161309
03-20-2012 12:08 PM
Glodson wrote:
Well, if I were the defense attorney, I would have to defend this man to the best of my abilities. Which is a reason I am not eager to be any type of attorney. No matter how guilty, everyone is entitled to a competent defense.
But that's an interesting exercise, how would one defend this man in a court of law? Well, the police have already done part of the job. By not investigating since day one, I could attempt to cast some doubt on the evidence collected in subsequent investigations, suggesting that media coverage tainted and corrupted some of it. All I would have to do is introduce doubt. The doubt has to be about the charges in this case. There is no reasonable doubt that Zimmerman killed this kid. But I could cast doubt on if it was murder.
Now, this was a murder. I believe that one can show that there was an unlawful homicide where the killer acted with malicious forethought. This fits the legal definition of murder. If I were defending this man, I would try to cast doubt on the intent aspect of if, and maybe even attempt to paint the kill as justified. But that would require more knowledge of the castle type laws in Florida. Other avenues for defending this man might involve a plea deal. Putting Zimmerman on the stand is out of the question. I think the best option for any defense attorney in this case would be to attempt to avoid the trial with a plea deal. Get the charges down to manslaughter and a lighter sentence. Going to trial in this case would be too risky. While there might be some room to introduce doubt, the evidence I have seen suggests that it would take a brilliant defense attorney and a moron prosecutor, coupled with an inept police department. Sadly, there is an inept police department on this case, which as I said, allows for some wiggle room.
But in the end, the best Zimmerman could hope for is a plea deal, should this go forward. Perhaps an insanity plea, but those rarely work and it could easily result in a longer net sentence(getting institutionalized could leave one in for years, with no hope of leaving, while a prison sentence can leave one in a position for parole). A good defense attorney would look to reduce the charges in this case, try to get it down to a type of manslaughter.
Which is why I'm not interested in being a lawyer. Defending people who don't deserve it is part of the job and our system.
Yeah, I can't see using the "self-defense" defense when the guy had a #### gun in his hand. Sheesh. I have to laugh anytime someone suggests the voice pleading for help on the 9-1-1 tapes is Zimmerman.
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-20-2012 06:50 PM
Hey! I've been wondering: Where's that guy who was in that other thread gloating about laws having unintended consequences? Y'know, calling everyone who disagreed with his comments "nanny-staters"? Wonder where he's at right now . . . . .
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64115107
03-20-2012 06:54 PM
Fmr. Homicide Detective: Illegal to Kill Dogs but Not Black Kids in Florida
Reply to Saddy - Message ID#: 64161417
03-20-2012 06:59 PM
Reply to FussyMcFusserson - Message ID#: 64165823
03-20-2012 07:03 PM
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 64165951
03-20-2012 07:06 PM
The_Pirate-King wrote:
Was it Jingai? Or maybe packard? I do remember one of them arguing against hate crime laws and the like.
*coughastrocough*
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