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[Inu-Zack_Morris]

http://news.yahoo.com/anglo-saxon-quote-overshadows-start-romney-
tour-012729009--spt.html

But what the #### is this? How the heck is noting the fact that this country has an Anglo-Saxon heritage which it shares with Britain in anyway racially insensitive? Our legal system is based on English common law, our political system is based on English parliamentarianism, English has been the dominant language since the Founding, Anglo Saxons were the majority ethnic group for a good number of decades. Also French, we have the Napoleonic legal code in certain states, French Enlightenment informed the Drafters of the Constitution and the seperation of powers and the concept of inalienable and natural human rights as well as the social contract. White Western Europeans played a dominant role in shaping this country and its public institutions and its culture, and it's not racially insensitive to say so.

[NaBraniel]

It's clearly a dogwhistle. His foreign policy tour consists of the UK, Poland, and the obligatory Israel.

He's letting red-blooded Anglo-Saxons the world over know exactly what side he's on in the coming global race/class war.

There, I tried.

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

But other than England and America and Saxony, where are there significant populations of Anglo-Saxons? I guess Australia and New Zealand, if you wanna count those losers, I don't. Canada, but they're basically American-British hybrids.

[NaBraniel]

You've just about covered it.

[Icarus27k]

http://www.huliq.com/files/imagecache/article_main/news_article/i
mages/WhitePower.jpg

I don't have any idea how someone would interpret that the wrong way.

[Buddyroe274]

LOL, I think this is the first time I've seen someone play the white race card on an international scale.

I also like how Obama's Anglo heritage is totally moot at this point.

[Icarus27k]

It's also a fact that one of Romney's foreign policy advisers is Nile Gardiner, a special twerp who loves to play up the idea of a supposed superiority the U.K. has over other countries.

[Icarus27k]

I would also add that President Obama cooled relations between the U.S. and U.K. on purpose, and for good reason. Before Obama got there, the leaders of both countries were seen as buttsex love buddies and deservedly mocked for it.

Cooling off the "special relationship" was a good idea.

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

Wow, you sound as bad a neocon right now.

[westpark]

Well I would argue that the claimed English-French 'parentage' of American govt is a bit of a misrepresentation. There were nearly if not more German immigrants in the colonies than English colonists so these colonists brought their Germanic tinge to our govt style as well. And we can't ignore the fact that the Spanish had a huge influence on over half the country & also contributed strongly to our culture.

I know Anglo-Saxon means English/German & I'm not directing this @ u but @ a certain Anglophile who likes to exclude us Krauts from all things Americana.

Anyway is it offensive? Mmmm no. Is it innaccurate? I'd say its incomplete because it assumes America was an English nation, when it most certainly was not & our nation was influenced almost as much by a slew of other non-Angloid/Frog European nationalities & not just those 2 as the revisionists Wilsonian scumbag historians played up in the early part of the 20th Century to minimize German impact.

So I'd use the term 'Western/Northern European' more so than 'Anglo-Saxon' because Anglo-Saxon has a British early 20th Century revisionist ring to it that's not historically accurate or 'total.'

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

Japan isn't Anglo-Saxon, nor is Scandanavia or Spain or Italy or France.

[westpark]

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Buddyroe274 wrote:

LOL, I think this is the first time I've seen someone play the white race card on an international scale.

I also like how Obama's Anglo heritage is totally moot at this point.

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That's a good pt, he's part Irish too.

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

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Icarus27k wrote:

It's also a fact that one of Romney's foreign policy advisers is Nile Gardiner, a special twerp who loves to play up the idea of a supposed superiority the U.K. has over other countries.

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They did have a pretty big empire. Britain, Mongolia, and America are suprior cultures.

[Icarus27k]

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Inu-Zack_Morris wrote:

Wow, you sound as bad a neocon right now.

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Is today Opposite Day or something?

[westpark]

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Icarus27k wrote:

It's also a fact that one of Romney's foreign policy advisers is Nile Gardiner, a special twerp who loves to play up the idea of a supposed superiority the U.K. has over other countries.

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I would have to agree. After WW1 there was a Germanphobia & an Anglophilia that permeated like ebola thru the US. 

Deluded German-Americans 'Americanized' -- aka Anglified their names because they didn't wanna tee off that Scots-Irish scumbag Wilson or his cabinet of war profiteers & Angloidlovers.

Its nonsense. I'd say American govt has a Western European rather than a British or French feel to it or 'fatherhood.'

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

From a legal, political, and even economic and cultural standpoint, we're pretty much Anglo-Franco. Yeah, there were Germans, but what political or legal traditions did we really inherit from Germany? The legal codes and political and philosophical systems which the nation was born out of are pretty much completely Anglo and French in their origin.

[westpark]

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Inu-Zack_Morris wrote:

From a legal, political, and even economic and cultural standpoint, we're pretty much Anglo-Franco. Yeah, there were Germans, but what political or legal traditions did we really inherit from Germany? The legal codes and political and philosophical systems which the nation was born out of are pretty much completely Anglo and French in their origin.

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Somewhat. The social security system is a German invention, Prussian to be precise. The labor movement was more so a German creation as the British for centuries were more free-trade oriented. So labor/unions. Uh, contracts & secularism were more German creations than English. 

The Kaiser had a lot of atheists & agnostics & such in his Bundestag.

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

I would argue this nation's secularism has more to do with Thomas Paine and his Age of Reason and those who read it, than German influences. Also, the French Revolution was secular in the extreme.

[GinaSzanboti]

"...special relationship is special"?  Is someone here advising Romney?  oO

If you don't get how it's offensive, Colbert covered it pretty well.

[AlternatePeanutcat]

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GinaSzanboti wrote:

"...special relationship is special"?  Is someone here advising Romney?  oO

If you don't get how it's offensive, Colbert covered it pretty well.

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Ah, what would we do without Jon Stewert or Stephen Colbert?