Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65026608
05-27-2012 10:36 PM
Jingai wrote:
He pursued drugs "enthusiastically", his own words. Does it make him a bad person, no. Honestly, I respect
him for stopping (presumably) and turning his life around. What is troublesome is the cocaine use, and the fact that
if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person
would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc..
Again I say bullfuuuuuudgeingsh!t. Your bias is showing again.
Reply to The_Pirate-King - Message ID#: 65026888
05-27-2012 10:37 PM
Reply to _Star_Wolf_ - Message ID#: 65023978
05-27-2012 10:40 PM
I don't care that he smoked weed or did any other drugs, I care about his DOJ's apparent hypocrisy on the matter.
Reply to _Star_Wolf_ - Message ID#: 65026796
05-27-2012 10:43 PM
Reply to RedFacekill - Message ID#: 65027010
05-27-2012 10:50 PM
RedFacekill wrote:
coke is for ass holes
Reply to ErudesU - Message ID#: 65026700
05-27-2012 10:52 PM
ErudesU wrote:
Jingai wrote:turning his life around.
How does using a drug mean you're in a position to "turn your life around"? Drug use is your only criteria here which is moot because every single human on Earth has at least one drug they use regularly.
From his own autobiography, he explicitly states that he used drugs enthusiastically, and put off his responsibilities in doing so, in short, he was an addict, in that his use of drugs impeded his life. The fact that he went from being an addict on the beaches of Hawaii to President of the United States is a testament to him turning his life around, from a path that would
have most likely resulted in incarceration to being a positive example of how hard work can influence a life in a positive manner. Now don't get me wrong, he is still the worst President in history, but the fact that he is President remains a testament to his commitment to turning his life around and leading by positive example. For that President Obama is
to be commended.
Reply to _Star_Wolf_ - Message ID#: 65026846
05-27-2012 10:55 PM - edited 05-27-2012 11:00 PM
I think it is a factor in that it can show judgement, but because it was occurring in his younger days,
high school and possibly early college, I don't think it is that big a deal, after all most people screw up
at least somewhat when they are an adolescent.
As far as how President Obama has run the country, and if he is fit to do so, I think my position on
that is abundantly clear. ![]()
Since you asked, as far as weed goes, I'm indifferent. Most people will have tried it at least once in
college, it is common, particularly among the more socially liberal crowds that the President sought out
as friends in college (again his own words). The cocaine use is more troubling, as cocaine is a very addictive
drugs that can cause serious health issues with prolonged use.
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65027162
05-27-2012 10:56 PM
Jingai wrote:
ErudesU wrote:
Jingai wrote:turning his life around.
How does using a drug mean you're in a position to "turn your life around"? Drug use is your only criteria here which is moot because every single human on Earth has at least one drug they use regularly.From his own autobiography, he explicitly states that he used drugs enthusiastically, and put off his responsibilities in doing so, in short, he was an addict
If you're going to use a drug, are you going to use it begrudgingly? That also doesn't make him an addict. Shirking chores and work is something young adults do, drugs involved or not.
Jingai wrote:
ErudesU wrote:
Jingai wrote:turning his life around.
How does using a drug mean you're in a position to "turn your life around"? Drug use is your only criteria here which is moot because every single human on Earth has at least one drug they use regularly.he is still the worst President in history
Are you trying to be wrong? I refuse to believe you are actually this wrong.
Reply to ErudesU - Message ID#: 65027206
05-27-2012 10:58 PM
LOL, just check out his posting history!![]()
Reply to AlternatePeanutcat - Message ID#: 65027240
05-27-2012 10:59 PM
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:LOL, just check out his posting history!
That sounds like the worst idea
Reply to _Star_Wolf_ - Message ID#: 65023978
05-27-2012 10:59 PM
I'm proud of him.
Reply to AlternatePeanutcat - Message ID#: 65026918
05-27-2012 11:01 PM
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:
Jingai wrote:
He pursued drugs "enthusiastically", his own words. Does it make him a bad person, no. Honestly, I respect
him for stopping (presumably) and turning his life around. What is troublesome is the cocaine use, and the fact that
if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person
would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc..
Again I say bullfuuuuuudgeingsh!t. Your bias is showing again.
I'm curious, absent the explitives where exactly is this a biased statement, or is it the fact that I told the truth (highlighted)
what has upset you so?
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65027270
05-27-2012 11:04 PM
Jingai wrote:
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:
Jingai wrote:
He pursued drugs "enthusiastically", his own words. Does it make him a bad person, no. Honestly, I respect
him for stopping (presumably) and turning his life around. What is troublesome is the cocaine use, and the fact that
if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person
would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc..
Again I say bullfuuuuuudgeingsh!t. Your bias is showing again.
I'm curious, absent the explitives where exactly is this a biased statement, or is it the fact that I told the truth (highlighted)
what has upset you so?
Becasue nobody cares if someone smoked pot in his youth.
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65026608
05-27-2012 11:06 PM
Reply to AlternatePeanutcat - Message ID#: 65027302
05-27-2012 11:12 PM
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:
Jingai wrote:
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:
Jingai wrote:
He pursued drugs "enthusiastically", his own words. Does it make him a bad person, no. Honestly, I respect him for stopping (presumably) and turning his life around. What is troublesome is the cocaine use, and the fact that if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc..
Again I say bullfuuuuuudgeingsh!t. Your bias is showing again.
I'm curious, absent the explitives where exactly is this a biased statement, or is it the fact that I told the truth (highlighted)
what has upset you so?
Becasue nobody cares if someone smoked pot in his youth.
Highlighted.
Reply to aeternus_flammus - Message ID#: 65027324
05-27-2012 11:15 PM
aeternus_flammus wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_contr
oversy#Cocaine
"The fact that if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc.."
Now, the big question, where exactly was the media controversy over President Obama admitting to the use of drugs, including cocaine, during the 2008 campaign? Was any coverage of it equal to or exceeding the coverage that President Bush's use of cocaine recieved?
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65026608
05-27-2012 11:16 PM
Jingai wrote:
He pursued drugs "enthusiastically", his own words. Does it make him a bad person, no. Honestly, I respect
him for stopping (presumably) and turning his life around. What is troublesome is the cocaine use, and the fact that
if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person
would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc..
Really? Bush was a known cocain addict and he had no trouble getting elected. In fact, it was hardly ever mentioned on any news channel.
Reply to 4-HBabe - Message ID#: 65027416
05-27-2012 11:18 PM
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65027406
05-27-2012 11:22 PM
Jingai wrote:
aeternus_flammus wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_contr
oversy#Cocaine
"The fact that if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc.."
Now, the big question, where exactly was the media controversy over President Obama admitting to the use of drugs, including cocaine, during the 2008 campaign? Was any coverage of it equal to or exceeding the coverage that President Bush's use of cocaine recieved?
The coverage of Bush's drug history was no where near excessive. And the only reason it was ever brought up was in conjunction with his adamant refusal to admit it even though every knew he was a total druggie in his younger years. Maybe if he had the balls to just tell the truth people would have stopped asking him. Like they did with Obama. When you break the story first by simply telling the truth it takes a lot the sensation out of the story and journalists move on.
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65027366
05-27-2012 11:22 PM
Jingai wrote:
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:
Jingai wrote:
AlternatePeanutcat wrote:
Jingai wrote:
He pursued drugs "enthusiastically", his own words. Does it make him a bad person, no. Honestly, I respect him for stopping (presumably) and turning his life around. What is troublesome is the cocaine use, and the fact that if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc..
Again I say bullfuuuuuudgeingsh!t. Your bias is showing again.
I'm curious, absent the explitives where exactly is this a biased statement, or is it the fact that I told the truth (highlighted)
what has upset you so?
Becasue nobody cares if someone smoked pot in his youth.
Highlighted.
Oh no. A little cocaine. So what?
Reply to ErudesU - Message ID#: 65027488
05-27-2012 11:23 PM
At least cocaine users don't eat faces.
Reply to the_shotgun_rhetoric - Message ID#: 65027104
05-27-2012 11:24 PM
the_shotgun_rhetoric wrote:
RedFacekill wrote:
coke is for ass holeswhat a shame WHAT A REAL SHAME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THOSE GUYS
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65027406
05-27-2012 11:26 PM
Reply to Jingai - Message ID#: 65027406
05-27-2012 11:32 PM
Jingai wrote:
aeternus_flammus wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_contr
oversy#Cocaine
"The fact that if any GOP candidate had this kind of history there would be endless articles from "news outlets" on why that person would be disqualified from being city dog catcher let alone President, Senator etc.."
Now, the big question, where exactly was the media controversy over President Obama admitting to the use of drugs, including cocaine, during the 2008 campaign? Was any coverage of it equal to or exceeding the coverage that President Bush's use of cocaine recieved?
I don't remember this being a big thing for bush either, America just loves a comeback story and both of them have it. there is no bias as far as I can remember.
Reply to aeternus_flammus - Message ID#: 65027540
05-27-2012 11:35 PM
aeternus_flammus wrote:
That's your burden of proof, bro.
I'm not holding my breath . . . . .
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