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Actually, if I'm remembering right the age of the woman can play some factor in the development of the child. I wouldn't call it statistically significant, but there is some increased risk of mutation.
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i  took that out of my past post

 

 

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the study that was done though was bogus. yes, women over 35 have a higher risk of some birth defects, that's common knowledge. that doesn't mean though that being over 30 causes autism. there are far too many studies out there that are completely bogus. everyone wants to profit from desperate parents.
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ghostrek wrote:

Saddy wrote:

ghostrek wrote:

1938_Packard wrote:

Why don't I ever hear about research going into the causes of it?  I hear lots of talk about how it can be managed, but nobody wants to know whether its emergence is linked to environmental issues or perhaps even linked to a common food additive.  Where's the research?



There been rases in case that people have  autism

in not cues by vaccine 

women having kids in age 30 plus that increase the odd of the child  having autism

 

it easier to dieanose the disorder

 

and the chemicals the mother and father that they ingests during Pregnancy




the age of the mother has absolutely nothing to do with it. that was a bull#### study.


i  am sorry how about  the chemical theory




i honestly don't know. it's possible i guess. i mean it would be great if they figured it all out so that future generations wouldn't be so profoundly affected, but i honestly doubt that they will figure it out in my lifetime or my son's. autism is a very complex disorder. i think it's going to take a very long time to figure it out. i do think though that more money should be invested in services for people on the spectrum rather than stupid studies like i've seen recently. there are people living with autism now who need services but can't get them. focus needs to shift.
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Saddy wrote:

ghostrek wrote:

Saddy wrote:

ghostrek wrote:

1938_Packard wrote:

Why don't I ever hear about research going into the causes of it?  I hear lots of talk about how it can be managed, but nobody wants to know whether its emergence is linked to environmental issues or perhaps even linked to a common food additive.  Where's the research?



There been rases in case that people have  autism

in not cues by vaccine 

women having kids in age 30 plus that increase the odd of the child  having autism

 

it easier to dieanose the disorder

 

and the chemicals the mother and father that they ingests during Pregnancy




the age of the mother has absolutely nothing to do with it. that was a bull#### study.


i  am sorry how about  the chemical theory




i honestly don't know. it's possible i guess. i mean it would be great if they figured it all out so that future generations wouldn't be so profoundly affected, but i honestly doubt that they will figure it out in my lifetime or my son's. autism is a very complex disorder. i think it's going to take a very long time to figure it out. i do think though that more money should be invested in services for people on the spectrum rather than stupid studies like i've seen recently. there are people living with autism now who need services but can't get them. focus needs to shift.
Yeah, this is why I just generally said there could be a link. From what I saw autism is linked to a series of genetic mutations but they can't really tell what's going on with them or how they're acting on the body, or even how they could be linked together (the mutations). Mutating DNA is pretty unpredictable. I would agree that anyone saying anything definitively is full of it.
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1938_Packard wrote:

WhatDaFuqIsThis wrote:



1938_Packard wrote:


Why don't I ever hear about research going into the causes of it?  I hear lots of talk about how it can be managed, but nobody wants to know whether its emergence is linked to environmental issues or perhaps even linked to a common food additive.  Where's the research?







Autism is spreading? Since when?




 




Give me some statistics over the years.




 




And yes, it would be horrible if it was caused by a food additive. That is something to think about, or even a chemical used to treat water. You never know, a type of pesticide is my best guess.





 


 



Stats.

A rising rate of diagnoses does not necessarily mean autism is spreading.  It just means there are more diagnoses.  It's very likely as autism awareness has been spreading, tbehavioral treatment has gotten better, disability benefits have been extended for it, etc. that more and more people are seeking out diagnoses and treatment for a problem that was previously kept in the dark.  Or worse.

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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/us/jan-june11/autism_0
4-19.html

 

took me 2 seconds.

 

stop being a douche.

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Until roughly 20 years ago, autism wasn't even being diagnosed....back then, your average autistic child would have been labelled with a number of other special needs children.

 

Only recently have we begun to diagnose it aggressively, and so only recently does it SEEM like it's "spreading"...when in fact it's far more likely that autism has always been prevalent.

 

 

 

 

And to the people who believe vaccinations are making your children autistic...you are all freaking idiots. Keep your sick kids away from me.

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You don't catch Autism. It's something you're born with.

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GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

And to the people who believe vaccinations are making your children autistic...you are all freaking idiots. Keep your sick kids away from me.


Okay, okay.

 

 

But what about FLUORIDE IN THE DRINKING WATER

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NaBraniel wrote:

GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

And to the people who believe vaccinations are making your children autistic...you are all freaking idiots. Keep your sick kids away from me.


Okay, okay.

 

 

But what about FLUORIDE IN THE DRINKING WATER


The commies are making us autistic.

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Goldar wrote:

NaBraniel wrote:

GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

And to the people who believe vaccinations are making your children autistic...you are all freaking idiots. Keep your sick kids away from me.


Okay, okay.

 

 

But what about FLUORIDE IN THE DRINKING WATER


The commies are making us autistic.


by what the drinking water ok gen. jack D. reaper

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-Dudeco- wrote:

You don't catch Autism. It's something you're born with.




some kids are born with it. some are not. my son was not. he was developmentally on target [actually he was ahead of the curve in pretty much every area] until he was 2. but you are right. it isn't "catching" or contagious. you can't just catch autism. it isn't a disease.
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GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

And to the people who believe vaccinations are making your children autistic...you are all freaking idiots. Keep your sick kids away from me.




you had me up until the last part. i really wish people would stop saying that to parents. no, vaccinations do not cause autism, but vaccine injuries are very VERY real. my son has to take anti-seizure medication for the rest of his life thanks to the menactra vaccine. and for the record, all of my kids are fully vaccinated. i'm not anti-vax, but i don't believe for one second that they are as benign as people are led to believe. my son is living proof of that. it would be so awesome if people would just stop with their judgments and actually listen to the parents. everyone is so quick to write us off as crazy and stupid, everyone is just so damned dismissive. it's fuuuuuudgeed up is what it is. just once i would like for someone to not jump to fuuuuuudgein' conclusions.
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-Dudeco- wrote:

You don't catch Autism.


When did I ever say you could?

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How often does that actually happen, though? AFAIK, negative reactions to vaccinations are hardly common.

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I mean, Getting your shots as a child help you through the rest of your life, its better to get them young. Why do you think children live longer now adays, and there is such a population explosion on our Planet?

 

It is because of the advances in medicine, before your child got sick, you'd need homeopathic remedies, or you die.

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NaBraniel wrote:

GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

And to the people who believe vaccinations are making your children autistic...you are all freaking idiots. Keep your sick kids away from me.


Okay, okay.

 

 

But what about FLUORIDE IN THE DRINKING WATER


That's just contaminating your precious bodily fluids.
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1938_Packard wrote:

-Dudeco- wrote:

You don't catch Autism.


When did I ever say you could?


That's what "spreading" means, numb-nu​​​​ts.
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redsilversnake wrote:

How often does that actually happen, though? AFAIK, negative reactions to vaccinations are hardly common.




you'd be surprised. certain vaccinations are more likely to cause serious issues than others. menactra is one, varicella is another, as is gardasil. this is a little old but i have a horrible headache and don't really feel much like looking. i had the more recent vaers reports bookmarked but i just did a reinstall. anyways, if you're really interested you could look. or not. or wait for me to do it. whatever. i need a nap.
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The_Pirate-King wrote:

1938_Packard wrote:

-Dudeco- wrote:

You don't catch Autism.


When did I ever say you could?


That's what "spreading" means, numb-nu​​​​ts.

Well, if he is saying it is caused by exposure to some form of chemical, spreading is still the right term.

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it isn't caused by exposure to a chemical.
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-04/new-mutations-in-auti
stic-people-may-be-due-to-older-fat...

 

Well dietary issues is probably a part of it. Another ^^ are pedo fathers & mentally ill dumb ass women with daddy complexes.

 

I read a study about a yr ago that linked increases in the watching of tv with the rise of autistic children, which could just mean mothers are getting fatter/bad diets -- so idk. Who knows, they'll figure it out I'm sure. A lot of the so-called autism cases from what I read are quite controversial. Some question whether Aspergers even exists & others question quite a large amt of the autism cases.

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lolololololololo no. just no.
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Saddy wrote:
the study that was done though was bogus. yes, women over 35 have a higher risk of some birth defects, that's common knowledge. that doesn't mean though that being over 30 causes autism. there are far too many studies out there that are completely bogus. everyone wants to profit from desperate parents.

Older parents are not a direct cause but studies do strongly indicate that they are a risk factor. I'm not a researcher but I imagine say a 40 year old mother has less of a risk for her kid being autistic than say a 55 yr old pedo father who likes to dip into the young women dating pool. After a certain age your body starts breaking down & mutations start taking hold. Old perverts have no business having kids that the taxpayer will have to fund when they die unless they have a large amt of money set aside to raise their unwanted child.

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