Babbling

[TheGreatUrameshi13]

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crapshot2 wrote:

then they should go get another job, right?

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I'll take that as a "You're right, the Democrats don't give a sh*t about the poor either."

You know, rather than the "Oh crap, I stepped in it.  Better make the guy who just made a good point sound like a heartless pr*ck."

[redsilversnake]

Except, you didn't make a good point. Arguing that high gun prices adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do. Neither are necessities, so your point is moot.

[crapshot2]

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TheGreatUrameshi13 wrote:

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crapshot2 wrote:

then they should go get another job, right?

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I'll take that as a "You're right, the Democrats don't give a sh*t about the poor either."

You know, rather than the "Oh crap, I stepped in it.  Better make the guy who just made a good point sound like a heartless pr*ck."

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/facepalm

[The_Pirate-King]

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redsilversnake wrote:

Except, you didn't make a good point. Arguing that high gun prices adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do. Neither are necessities, so your point is moot.

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My second cousin Little Timmy died last week because that ferrari transplant he needed didn't come through.

You better DA​​​​MN well retract your statement, son.

[Astromang]

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redsilversnake wrote:

Except, you didn't make a good point. Arguing that high gun prices adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do. Neither are necessities, so your point is moot.

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You didn't read earlier when I replied to Knight Star. It's not about high gun prices, but prohibitive fees associated with owning a firearm. I can go out right now and buy a rifle for $100, but what does that matter if I have to pay an extra $350 fee on top of it?

[crapshot2]

astromang

missing the poin

as per usual

[redsilversnake]

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Astromang wrote:

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redsilversnake wrote:

Except, you didn't make a good point. Arguing that high gun prices adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do. Neither are necessities, so your point is moot.

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You didn't read earlier when I replied to Knight Star. It's not about high gun prices, but prohibitive fees associated with owning a firearm. I can go out right now and buy a rifle for $100, but what does that matter if I have to pay an extra $350 fee on top of it?

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My bad. I worded that wrong.
Arguing that high costs associated with owning a gun adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do.

There. My point has been slightly improved. You have my thanks for calling such a minor thing to my attention. Truly, what would I have done without you and your asininity?

[Astromang]

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redsilversnake wrote:

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Astromang wrote:

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redsilversnake wrote:

Except, you didn't make a good point. Arguing that high gun prices adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do. Neither are necessities, so your point is moot.

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You didn't read earlier when I replied to Knight Star. It's not about high gun prices, but prohibitive fees associated with owning a firearm. I can go out right now and buy a rifle for $100, but what does that matter if I have to pay an extra $350 fee on top of it?

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My bad. I worded that wrong.
Arguing that high costs associated with owning a gun adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do.

There. My point has been slightly improved. You have my thanks for calling such a minor thing to my attention. Truly, what would I have done without you and your asininity?

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It's essentially a government ban on poor people owning guns. How would you feel if the government impossed a $350 fee for getting an abortion, or voting?

[Gaius_Sextus]

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Astromang wrote:

It's not affordability of guns we're talking about. Another poster said they would like a $350 fee before you even purchase a gun. I said "so poor people can't own guns?"

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Why not? I've been told that poor people on welfare have the best clothes, jewlery, houses, cars, booze and drugs. Why wouldn't they be able to afford guns?

[crapshot2]

they can sure as hell afford cadies

[Gaius_Sextus]

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crapshot2 wrote:

they can sure as hell afford cadies

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Yup. Now that I have a new job, I won't be able to afford one now.

[redsilversnake]

Apples and bananas. Those prices are a small way of limiting certain (read: stupid) people from obtaining something that is dangerous to them and others. Abortion, however, is a medical procedure that women should have the option to get and voting is one of the basic rights provided in a democratic republic. Hardly a good comparison.

[KnightStar]

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Gaius_Sextus wrote:

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Astromang wrote:

It's not affordability of guns we're talking about. Another poster said they would like a $350 fee before you even purchase a gun. I said "so poor people can't own guns?"

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Why not? I've been told that poor people on welfare have the best clothes, jewlery, houses, cars, booze and drugs. Why wouldn't they be able to afford guns?

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Wait just a cotton picking minute, wasn't it Astro that went on a long winded rant about Welfare Queens, then said what you did above?

I believe he did, and since you brought it back to my attention, why doesn't every poor family own a .50 Caliber for home protection since they have all the money!

[Astromang]

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KnightStar wrote:

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Gaius_Sextus wrote:

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Astromang wrote:

It's not affordability of guns we're talking about. Another poster said they would like a $350 fee before you even purchase a gun. I said "so poor people can't own guns?"

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Why not? I've been told that poor people on welfare have the best clothes, jewlery, houses, cars, booze and drugs. Why wouldn't they be able to afford guns?

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Wait just a cotton picking minute, wasn't it Astro that went on a long winded rant about Welfare Queens, then said what you did above?

I believe he did, and since you brought it back to my attention, why doesn't every poor family own a .50 Caliber for home protection since they have all the money!

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I love how you can't read what my arguement is. It's not affordability of guns we're talking about. Another poster said they would like a $350 fee before you even purchase a gun.

Do you need me to explain this in terms of Snickers, because you lot are obviously not getting it.

Also, why hasn't anyone answered my question of "would it be prohibitive to lower income earners if we put a government fee of $350 on abortions?"

[conanwong]

explain why there should be a fee for abortion. because i don't get your logic of comparing guns to abortions.

[Astromang]

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conanwong wrote:
explain why there should be a fee for abortion. because i don't get your logic of comparing guns to abortions.

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Explain why there should be a fee for purchasing a gun?

[TheGreatUrameshi13]

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redsilversnake wrote:

Except, you didn't make a good point. Arguing that high gun prices adversely affect the poor is like arguing that high Ferrari prices do. Neither are necessities, so your point is moot.

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It's not buying a gun.  It's a government fee to legally own a gun.  Nice try, though.

[conanwong]

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Astromang wrote:

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conanwong wrote:
explain why there should be a fee for abortion. because i don't get your logic of comparing guns to abortions.

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Explain why there should be a fee for purchasing a gun?

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explain where you got the 350 fee? because i don't see it anywhere in this thread. and before you say anything, that fee only applies to New York while the lot of us only have to pay $20-$30 tops.

proof in my state: http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/firearms.pdf

and to your question, you buy a gun, you have to buy a license to carry it or face consequence under the state and federal laws concerning about unlicensed guns. and those fees help generate state revenues for gun safety and other stuff related to firearms information.

[Astromang]

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conanwong wrote:

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Astromang wrote:

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conanwong wrote:
explain why there should be a fee for abortion. because i don't get your logic of comparing guns to abortions.

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Explain why there should be a fee for purchasing a gun?

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explain where you got the 350 fee? because i don't see it anywhere in this thread. and before you say anything, that fee only applies to New York while the lot of us only have to pay $20-$30 tops.

proof in my state: http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/firearms.pdf

and to your question, you buy a gun, you have to buy a license to carry it or face consequence under the state and federal laws concerning about unlicensed guns. and those fees help generate state revenues for gun safety and other stuff related to firearms information.

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It was mentioned earlier in this thread, as I have already pointed out. Also, New York does have a $350 fee plus a $94 fee to finger print. I don't have to pay anything in my state unless I get a background check which I don't need if I have a CCW permit.

This isn't the point, the point is someone said they would like to see this everywhere, and I brought up the point that it would be limiting gun ownership only to those who could afford it.

So what's the problem with adding a $350 government fee for people getting abortions? What if those fees generate state revenue for sex ed? How about a $350 fee for voting, with the fees going towards voter education? Would you still be in favor of this?

[redsilversnake]

lrn2read. I already went over this with Astromang, since he missed the point just as much as you did.

[Iowa_CubsFan]

I was the one who suggested a $350 fee to buy, own, put in your own pooper, whatever with a gun to be done nationwide and I stand by that.

That's $350 per handgun, with higher fees for more powerful guns and lets make quad digits for explosives, 5 digits for LMG's and six digits for the really hardcore stuff.

[Astromang]

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Iowa_CubsFan wrote:
I was the one who suggested a $350 fee to buy, own, put in your own pooper, whatever with a gun to be done nationwide and I stand by that.

That's $350 per handgun, with higher fees for more powerful guns and lets make quad digits for explosives, 5 digits for LMG's and six digits for the really hardcore stuff.

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I agree, people should have to pay a $350 fee to vote, a $1,000 fee to voice their opinion, a $10,000 for expectation of privacy...

[Iowa_CubsFan]

Pffft. Gays would pay $10,000 and still not get it. What a waste of money

[Icarus27k]

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stilgar wrote:

i really hate the gop

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I've said it several times. It's now time for the Republican Party to slink into the dustbin of history where it belongs.

[Gaius_Sextus]

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Astromang wrote:

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conanwong wrote:

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Astromang wrote:

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conanwong wrote:
explain why there should be a fee for abortion. because i don't get your logic of comparing guns to abortions.

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Explain why there should be a fee for purchasing a gun?

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explain where you got the 350 fee? because i don't see it anywhere in this thread. and before you say anything, that fee only applies to New York while the lot of us only have to pay $20-$30 tops.

proof in my state: http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/firearms.pdf

and to your question, you buy a gun, you have to buy a license to carry it or face consequence under the state and federal laws concerning about unlicensed guns. and those fees help generate state revenues for gun safety and other stuff related to firearms information.

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It was mentioned earlier in this thread, as I have already pointed out. Also, New York does have a $350 fee plus a $94 fee to finger print. I don't have to pay anything in my state unless I get a background check which I don't need if I have a CCW permit.

This isn't the point, the point is someone said they would like to see this everywhere, and I brought up the point that it would be limiting gun ownership only to those who could afford it.

So what's the problem with adding a $350 government fee for people getting abortions? What if those fees generate state revenue for sex ed? How about a $350 fee for voting, with the fees going towards voter education? Would you still be in favor of this?

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Bah. You could just buy a gun on-line.