Babbling

[KnightStar]

What misogynistic piece of bullsh!t did you get that line out of, I don't think even Playboy gives out that kind of bad information/advice.

Let the truth be your sword and your shield, then you will never be without an adequate defense or weapon to defend yourself with.

If you have to lie to get something, it's not worth getting in most cases.

If an entire relationship is built on lies, it will never sustain itself, it will sink sooner rather than later.

Fuggless you just go out into the world and look for sh!t like that article to justify your own wrong ways of life and way of living.

[SandStoneReborn]

This seems rather sexist. Men don't lie anymore than women, and I don't see how men have to "lie to keep a woman" that's just ridiculous.

[Rasputin0070]

This is why you find a woman who doesn't want lies.  This is why you search for a human with integrity.  This is why you find someone you can respect enough to give the honest truth. 

This is why you have principles. 

I've played the lying game and it's pathetic.  This is how cowards deal with eachother.  One is self-conscious and asks the other a question that can't be met because the other can't stand up for their opinion.  One is unsatisfied so they lie to the other because they'd rather the wound fester than go through the trouble of lancing it.  One thinks the other is beneath being able to take the truth, so they withhold it from them, along with their respect. 

This isn't how you handle the people you supposedly care about. 

You want to find the person who is right for you?  Find someone who can take you, unadulterated.  Find someone who sees everything you are and wants more.  Anything less is a rude ruse. 

And sure it works, everyone knows a set of grandparents who haven't talked for the last forty years.  I wonder what their secret is, huh?  Guess you can't deny the integrity that comes from silence.  If you can't say something nice . . .

If you can't mean something nice . . .

Why bother with the relationship at all? 

[lunarnoodle]

There are actually real ppl in the world that don't have to lie to be in a relationship.
Live the way you WANT to live, not the way you think you have to.

[1pooh4u]

I don't care about the lies I mean if you're
lying to me how the hell am I to know? I hate
when I catch you in a lie and you still wanna stick
to that story. It's very insulting

[valiente16]

I hate people who lie in general....men and women we are all supposed to be grown folks here and lying is a child's game. If you need to lie to a person, especially over petty shi*t....ugh. I rather you tel me the truth and I get all pissy, we talk it out and move on than lie and insult my intelligence as a person. Plus....all lies come out...eventually.

[anDaibhalsHusair]

It isn't lying, per se, its subtle manipulation. For one thing, I don't think anyone should do anything that they feel they should lie about later. Second, its not technically lying if you are answering questions honestly, but not giving out irrelevant info that could lead to an unpleasant conversation. Like say your current asks what you did last night, and you say you Hung out with some old friends drinking beers, she doesn't have to know that you blew her off to play xbox alone, with your friends in a game party.

[fugglesss]

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NaBraniel wrote:
I don't lie because I don't care enough to

That's why I do so poorly with women who care about things

Luckily, those make me sick.

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i want to one day find a man that doesnt feel he has to lie and is comfortable with me

or id just rather be alone

[fugglesss]

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cobrasks wrote:

Most men lie to women because women can't handle the truth .

Don't want men to lie to you ?

Then let them feel more comfortable telling you the truth .

In all it's glorious hideousness .

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i do have male friends who do tell me everything.. but they are cheating

and they tell me all the "glorious hideousness" 

even as far to tell me their thoughts about sex with other men.. even admitting to it .. 

and thats great and all but they dont take me serious and dont want to be with me.. so its like, they cant be truthful with someone theyd actually want to be with 

[fugglesss]

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Buddyroe274 wrote:

I snag them with my brutal honesty, and that usually what made tham leave in the long run..........Nowadays, I don't lie, I either play stupid or say "you already know what I think, don't start this fight".......Works so far, but I've learned to adapt.

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buddy you are one of a the few good guys left, probably

remind me of my brothers.. they are mostly good, too. lol

when something happens my brother knows would make his wife mad, he tells her right away.. like this woman gave him her number .. just to make sure he didnt put somewhere to have her find it .. he went and took the number and gave it right to his wife. lol

[Inu-Zack_Morris]

Men "have" to lie to women because a bunch of stupid women have insanely ridiculous, childish, contradictory, unrealistic wants, desires, and standards. Not all men have to lie, only pathetic losers and sleazy players have to lie, confidents guys with stuff going for them have no need to lie to women or play their games, and by not giving himself over to female contro and challnging theml, he's far more attractive to women than the ones who lie and tell them what they want to hear.

[fugglesss]

you might have to lie to a girl, but not a woman

also, how you word things is everything.. use tact.. that goes with everyone.. not just women

[anDaibhalsHusair]

Why didn't he just throw it away and tell his wife about the funny incident he had while he was out? Seems kind of silly to feel like he has to bring home proof of fidelity.

[fugglesss]

you know how you do somethings.. u grab stuff and put it in your pocket. it would have hurt that womans feelings if he threw it away in front of her.. so he had to put it in a pocket.. and then he gave it to his wife. 

duh

[DiscoFevers]

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fugglesss wrote:

use tact

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I absolutely refuse to comply with this in my personal life.

[anDaibhalsHusair]

Yeah but he could have waited until he got away, or forced a "yeah me and my wife..." comment if he had any suspicions the conversation were going in that direction.

I know, its not my relationship and what ever works for them, works for them. It just sounds a little steange to me is all.

[Buddyroe274]

I generally try to avoid any talking points that would afford me a woman's number other than in a business aspect, but due to my terrible memory I make an effort not to ever put #s in my pocket........Last time I got caught with a woman's phone number, NK found it on the dresser.......I had just come from Gamestop buying Killzone, anyway she busts into the Batcave, and say "Who the fuck is Carol"......I'm in the middle of a fire fight, so I just utter out an "uhnno", she says "well why don't you call her, and find out" as she hands me a folded up piece of paper with Carol, and a # on it in my handwriting.........I spaced on where I got the # from, so I paused the game, and didn't really have an answer......I was trying to remember where I got it, and why I had it, but it was gone from my mind.......She was like why don't I call it and see........Being about 98% that I had done nothing wrong, I was like go for it.........She calls it, asks for Carol, and asked how she knew Buddy.........Next thing I hear is "well he has your number written on the back of a Gamestop receipt"......When she said that it all came back.

It's was the Girl Scout lady that was selling cookies with her troop outside of the strip mall.......She stopped, and was asking my daughter if she wanted to be a scout, then started telling me about how to have her join.........Not even slightly interested in what she was babbling about (I have a Gamestop bag in my hand......I can't hear you at all) I told her to give me her number, and I'll let my wife talk to her about it.....Well, they DID talk.........Already long story short, my daughter isn't a scout.

[fugglesss]

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anDaibhalsHusair wrote:
Yeah but he could have waited until he got away, or forced a "yeah me and my wife..." comment if he had any suspicions the conversation were going in that direction.

I know, its not my relationship and what ever works for them, works for them. It just sounds a little steange to me is all.

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 i think because of all the heck he put up in the past because of other girls. he was a football player who went to like 10 proms (all his prom pics mysteriously disappeared.. ist a huge family joke)

anyway, his current wife got into a lot of schoolyard fights over him... one girl even claimed he got her pregnant... so i think he just does whatever he can upfront to crush any possibility of drama

[fugglesss]

LOL see thats exactly why he gave her the number!!

my brother works at the airport in atlanta

as a secuirty guard type person

i dont know if you have been to atlanta lately , but people there look amazing

we have pictures of him at work with actresses like Taraji  i cant post to protect his identity...... so trust me, having access to those kinds of women and with his past.. he feels its best to be fully non disclosure to protect his marriage lol

[Buddyroe274]

I lived in ATL for like 4 years.......It is one of the more aesthetically pleasing places I've been to

[fugglesss]

all the people look perfect.. i guess you have to come to south carolina to fully understand what i mean

but its like you dont leave the house unless every hair is in place, your mustache is perfect and dolce and gabana sunglasses.. its like . wtf.. whats in the water here ? lol

[anDaibhalsHusair]

That is #### hilarious.

Fuggs, yeah I can see that happening. Most times when I meet women, its because the two us are working as a customer/client rep basis. So unless she is forcing her number down my throat, interactions rarely go anywhere near posited entanglement. Besides, don't want to date anyone i met through work anyway.

But I see what's going on with your brother, and its not unreasonable.

[alucardsexyghost]

I would say I don't lie to my wife, but you would think I was lying.

[ShowUsYourTaint]

I don't think people lie nearly as much once they get into a serious relationship.  And that's a large part of why those relationships are more fulfilling.

But everyone without exception lies at least a little bit when they're trying to start one.  Or at least, they embellish the truth about themselves somewhat.  They stand up straight, suck in the gut, eat a stick of gum to battle the bad breath, wear their nicest clothes, do a bunch of stuff they wouldn't normally do to make a good impression.

Then there are people who take the basic concept of idealizing yourself way, way overboard into delusional territory who are just terrible people.

[alucardsexyghost]

The closest that I came to lying that I can think of was not telling her about my depression and previous suicide attempt. Although I thought I had since I'm not really ashamed of it. She figured it out after a second suicide attempt after we got together.

Other then that she pretty much knew what she was getting into.

If for whatever reason I was in a position to be dating again I probably wouldn't tell someone on casual dates about my bi-polar, for the same reason I wouldn't bring it up to a random person I just started talking to (although I'm not one to talk to random people) but if it somehow came up in conversation, or it looked like it was going to be more then one or two casual dates I'd let them know.