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lunarnoodle
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The drug rule is not enforced arbitrarily and it's not enforced at any mention of drugs.

The part of the ToS that covers discussion of drug use has to do with the clause that states there should be no discussion od illegal or illicit acts.

Which means that if you post about laws that you are breaming, then you are subject to moderation. Discussing illegal drugs that you take falls into this category.

Discussions of topic regarding drugs that concern legalization, social or physical effects are not moderated beyong personal use.

 

So to say the site is hypocritical because of the game or that the rule is enforced arbitrarily is hyperbole based on ignorance.

And if you have been moderated for other comments, then you have an argument for overturning the ban.

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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Also, you do not have freedom of speech on this website. That's prolly been posted to death though, so.. really you can just search about it if you have questions on that count.

Suffice it to say, it shouldn't be a surprise if you clicked "agree".

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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lunarnoodle wrote:

The drug rule is not enforced arbitrarily and it's not enforced at any mention of drugs.

The part of the ToS that covers discussion of drug use has to do with the clause that states there should be no discussion od illegal or illicit acts.

Which means that if you post about laws that you are breaming, then you are subject to moderation. Discussing illegal drugs that you take falls into this category.

Discussions of topic regarding drugs that concern legalization, social or physical effects are not moderated beyong personal use.



You can understand, though, why people might feel that it is arbitrarily enforeced, right?  It's not that the ToS needs to be changed or that enforcement is inadequate, not by any means.  At the same time, drug use is so ingrained in our social consciousness - from addiction, to crime, to cultural aesthetic, to broader social malaise - that it's not always easy to seperate self from the act.  It's not something that can be delinieated by intent to break the law.

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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lunarnoodle wrote:

Also, you do not have freedom of speech on this website. That's prolly been posted to death though, so.. really you can just search about it if you have questions on that count.

Suffice it to say, it shouldn't be a surprise if you clicked "agree".


I found that out the hard way in OA remember that thread

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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scoobdog wrote:

 that it's not always easy to seperate self from the act.  It's not something that can be delinieated by intent to break the law.


In terms of enforcement it is pretty clear cut though. Talking about personal use. That's what gets moderated.

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lunarnoodle wrote:

scoobdog wrote:

 that it's not always easy to seperate self from the act.  It's not something that can be delinieated by intent to break the law.


In terms of enforcement it is pretty clear cut though. Talking about personal use. That's what gets moderated.


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The frog hopped into the princess' lap and said: Elegant Lady, I was once a handsome prince, until an evil witch cast a spell upon me. One kiss from you, however, and I will turn back into the dapper young prince that I am, and then, my sweet, we can marry and set up housekeeping in your castle with my mother, where you can prepare my meals, clean my clothes, bear my children, and feel forever grateful doing so.

That night, as the princess dined sumptuously on a repast of lightly sautéed frogs legs seasoned in a wine and onion cream sauce she chuckled to herself and thought: I don't f*cking think so..

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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Marijuana is bad, but hemp is a-okay!

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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You can't really expect the average poster to think like that, though. I know I don't.
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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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Since I'm the culprit who started this line of conversation I just want to know......Or actually I already know, but I guess I'm asking you from two different standpoints (as a former mod, and a user)........As a mod, I'll assume that if I said use of these drugs will destroy your mind, and you'll have sex you didn't remember while also making it a point to say that I don't do them anymore because of things like that still would cause you to action me........Which I'm fine with.......You can't argue the rules when they are spelled out.

 

But hypothetically, would a thread that I blatantly warned about the dangers of drug use, then alluded to my past (because someone whose never done them would be spouting from their ass).......While still presumably ban worthy ,could it slip by.......Not that I have any intention on making one, but just kind of curious.

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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Personally, I did not moderate allussions to past actions where posters explained they did not do those things anymore.

I mean, I myself have posted about being arrested and experiences that occurred while I was chemically altered.

 

At the same time, I would not presume to tell you to make a thread specifically about drug use even if it was clear that you were talking about past actions you were no longer involved in.

Personal use can be moderated, so it's possible that the thread could be closed or removed and depending on the context that you could be banned.

 

Again, personally, there were very few ppl that I actually banned for discussion of drugs. In those cases it was often after several written warnings were ignored. 

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Re: while ASMB deletes threads that mention drug u

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Nah, like I said I have no intention on tugging at this thread any more, just thought you'd be the best person to ask.

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