Adoko91 wrote:
against_the_tides wrote:
Oh Sketchor. You so funny.
Indeed, I didn't cry for a boat. I cried for Toonami but not a boat.
Everything One Piece did DragonballZ did better.
One Piece had some of the most atrocious voice actors I've ever heard also.
The story was ludicrous and the characters were so... retarded? Yeah retarded is a good word.
It was a good show no doubt, worthy of Shonen Jump at least.
It is in no way better than FLCL though.
If you're comparing 4Kids One Piece to FUNimation DBZ then obviously FUNimation DBZ is the lesser of two evils but FUNimation did a great job on their One Piece dub if you haven't heard it. Watch it on Hulu some time. There's some great voice acting in FUNimation's dub though admittingly not their best (far better than any of their DBZ dubs though).
I take it you've never watched it in Japanese. The Japanese voice cast is phenomenal and along with the Japanese OST makes for a marvelous combination which is why even if I've read the manga long before hand I can always enjoy the story again in animated form.
DBZ does everything One Piece does but better? Surely you jest. DBZ has one thing going for it, good fights. Some of the best ever animated (though they're not always the best animated if you get my meaning). It's very iconic and many shows borrow elements from Dragon Ball (not Z necessarily but some borrow from Z as well).
DBZ's characters are iconic but they're kind of bland. Particularly in the dubs. In comparsion the One Piece characters are lot more likable but not in the 4Kids dub for obvious reasons. They have aspirations and personality. They feel considerably more real than the DBZ characters but the earlier portion of Dragon Ball is a lot more like One Piece in it's use of character development. Or should I say One Piece is a lot more like Dragon Ball, it did afterall take many pages from it. In One Piece every character matters. In DBZ it's the Goku show staring Goku featuring Goku. Sure Luffy takes on the "big bad" but the other characters hold their own and grow in strength as the series progresses and something most shounen fail to accomplish is present in One Piece. The girls aren't useless and they're characters before they're girls merely there to keep the series from being a complete sausage fest.
They're always training and waiting around in DBZ. The only person you ever seen train in One Piece is Zoro and only for brief moments here and there. There's no waiting around for someone to power up. Power ups do occur in the later seasons but they're happen very quickly and don't take half an episode or longer to be accomplished.
One Piece does a substantial amount of world building which is something Dragon Ball Z heavily lacks. You don't see much of anything that happens beyond what Goku and his pals are doing. Nothing inherently wrong with that but there's a vast world's to explore in the DB universe and rarely did they ever after Dragon Ball. Admittingly DBGT attempted to go the exploration route but didn't do a very good job at it for the 15 or so episodes it tried to get back to DB's old adventure formula.
People have differing opinions as to when DBZ went down hill. Some say after the Freeza saga, some say after the Cell saga and some say it was good through part of the Buu saga while others think it's good throughout. But after Freeza and particularly after Cell a lot of stories feel like rehashes. Sure they introduce new stuff from time to time and another power up is always necessary to take on the next "big bad" but it's all gets very "samey" after a point. One Piece on the other hand starts a bit slow but gets progressively better every storyline as the world expands and you learn more about what's going on that the protagonists aren't necessarily privy to.
Dragon Ball Z hardly has a fraction of the comedic charm of Dragon Ball as well but One Piece is just plain rediculous with it's comedy and despite that can be deadly serious as well.
I have never been more attached to any other characters in the history of fiction. The **QWOP** stories most of the main characters have are very moving. When I said people cry for a boat. I mean it. They sail around on a boat for several seasons but have to get a new boat because the old one had been through too much. It's astonishingly touching the way they give it a viking burial. But if you're not going to cry over a boat there's always on screen deaths for various characters and I gotta say none of the deaths in DBZ or Naruto come even close to being as impactful.
There's a reason why One Piece is the #1 shounen in Japan. Because it is awesome and it only gets better.
I don't know why I even bothered explaining why I can tell from your comment that you're only familiar with the hackjob crap 4Kids made of it. Watch the original some time. Give it a chance and it might just surprise you.
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sketch only puts the arrogant whiney punks in their place... sort of like batman, except on the {AS} boards - THECZAROFGNAR
Sketch, should we make sure it's imprinted on your grave stone "He felt very strongly that Bleach belonged on Toonami!" - .hack-SIGN_John
"We aknowledged that Toonami is cooler than us... and they aknowledged that we're full of ****." [adult swim]
way better story and art. but then again that is my opinion and yours to think that an anime like one piece is better...
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