Reply to IshiohSisuko - Message ID#: 45396245
03-24-2009 04:38 AM
IshiohSisuko wrote:The chess games in Bohemian Rhapsody are real games from history.
Chessmaster Hex vs Deep Blue:
http://wwwscala.blogspot.com/2007/05/paul-morphy-a
dolf-anderssen-
1-0_17.html
Chessmaster Hex vs Ed:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=10755
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Oh. My. God. How in the world did you ever figure that out? O.O I am in awe. Absolutely flabbergasted.
Also, I had no idea anyone had posted in this thread since 2007.
Yay!!
And thanks for that info! Although it doesn't look like you'll be back to read this. ![]()
Reply to IshiohSisuko - Message ID#: 45396245
09-07-2009 02:09 PM
Woah both games were Morphy games??! Woah. The creators sure knew who to pick for a Bebop chess game. (Morphy was a 19th century chess player, a true visionary of his time, also widely considered to be one of the greatest chess players of all time. He's known as the Pride and Sorrow of Chess. Maaaan, I remember studying several of his games during training sessions way back when!)
Anyway, just to stay on topic, I thought I'd throw in another easter egg. (I've read through every page of this thread except p.5 but if it's already mentioned there then sorry for mentioning it again!) In Speak Like a Child, the Tortoise company first delivers the Betamax tape and the crew later receives the video tape player-- delivered by none other than the Hare company. The order of arrival is an allusion to Aesop's fable about the hare and the tortoise (in which the tortoise wins the race/finishes before the hare). ![]()
Great job on all those catches in the last couple of pages, by the way! I had sooooo much fun reading it all!
-She-who-freeze-framed-the-chess-game-to-copy-down
never-found-the-real-games (kudos to IshiohSisuko!)
Reply to GinaSzanboti - Message ID#: 5958545
09-10-2009 10:52 PM
GinaSzanboti wrote:
ApathyInc wrote:I couldn't read the corporation titles too well, so these are just the names from "Bohemian Rhapsody"--the from list:Terje Hakonsen; Peter Rine; Jenie Linn; Dariel Franko; Dave Lie; Jenie Wara; Trisia Byrns; Tod Richers; Fabien Rahrar; Ingemar Vackman; Yang-ming Wang; Leslie Olsen; Aleksi Litovara; Max Proetzeneder; Syng-jung Kim; Yuri Yoshikaba; Christian Tholesen; Ros Powers; Takasi Ni**bleep**a; Jeff Andersone; Derek Heydt; Barrett Christian; JJ Thomass; Shingo Takahaji; Shanon Dan; Anita Schwaler; Rubi Nishikawa; Reto Lumm; Jean-Baptist Charle; Mike Bealo; Kebin Young; Mark Hormes; Natalia Archaubault; Jacques Martin; Alice Ferland; Serge Langlobe.the to list: Luice O'Rilley; William Gardner; Brian Lalumiere; Tony Blanc; Jear-Yvea Corbeis; Jocelyn Fortin; Camillic (?) Corbell; Alexsei N Stakhanov; Kari Scheiermacher; Chung-song park; Oscar Milton; Tunglai Chiang; Jomo Kasavubu; Charlie Chang; Frederic Gomulka; Fenghong Santing; Rudyard Keats; Minn Van Nauyen; Albert Abelard; Hans Christian III; Carolus Strindberg; Francis Loyola; Wolfgang Waldheim; Mitchell Steinbeck; Lev Barmn; Ferdinand Cabral; Benito Vespucci.
The one censors got was Takashi Nish.ita. Most of the From list is also on Big Shots' list, although Jenie Linn (a pun on Jenny Lind, the Swedish Nightingale?) is Jamie Linn and Dariel Franko is Daniel on Big Shots. And the second time Dave Lie's name scrolls through it's Dava L'e. And I think it might be Tricia Byrns, not Trisia, and Natalie Archawault, if you want to double check those (I'm only nitpicking the spelling because it might be important to figuring out who these people might be!). I remember those being hard to make out.
Possible spelling corrections to your "To" list (btw, for those scratching their heads about now, the To and From list refers to the gate transactions for laundering the money): Luice O'Riley, Jeer-Yves Corbels; Camille Corbell; Karl Schlelermacher (that was a tough one to see!); Fenghong Sangting; and Lev Bermn.
There are two more person names, Gottlieb Johann Von Siemens, and Wilhem Maria Von something, but it's just too tiny to see it. Does it help if it's referring to something from Sound of Music?Just a guess...
The missing government recipients are: New ChungKing City Bank; Kuill City Office (I thought it might be Kuwait, but there's just no w in there); Ganymede City Dep. of Treasurer; Io electric power company; Mars.com; New Philadelphia City Bank; and New Mogadiscio City Office. I'm wondering if that was supposed to be Mogadishu. You'd be appalled at how many people out there think "cherish" is spelled "cherious."
Well done!! Can you check and see which is right on those spellings, because some of those letters are really tough, and I'm not sure myself.
At first I thought everyone on the list might be writers. But Jomo Kasavubu is a combination of Jomo Kenyatta, first prime minister of Kenya after independence, and Joseph Kasavubu, first president of independent Republic of Congo, so I guess it's a free for all.Whatever you find!
I was reading Voltaire's Candide today and your post rang a bell. In Bohemian Rhapsody: if the "something" you mentioned in "Wilhem Maria Von something" is Leibniz then it may be a reference to the 18th century philosopher, Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz, whose work in theology is pretty well known. He published his book Theodicee in 1710. It sort of helps that the name just before that appearing in Bebop is "Gottlieb Johann Von Siemens"... Gottlieb/Gottfried
Also, and I think this is sheer coincidence more than anything, according to houseofnames.com the surname Gottlieb can be traced to the historic kingdom of *drumroll*.... Bohemia
Reply to BebopAttic - Message ID#: 51326256
11-11-2009 01:29 AM
Wow, I'm sorry I didn't see that you'd posted this for so long - all of my bookmarked threads don't show up in my dashboard, and I can't figure out how to rearrange the order. :/
I could never make out Maria's surname back then, and my eyesight is worse now, so I'm sure I still can't decipher it. I like your theory though. And at this point I wouldn't put anything past them when it comes to purpose vs. coincidence.
Thanks for your contribution!
Reply to IshiohSisuko - Message ID#: 45396245
10-02-2010 07:41 PM
I just (re)noticed that Ishioh Sisuko was on the list on Jet's screen with Futura Marigold and the anagram of Tomoe Shinohara.
Since we still haven't figured out who Ishioh Sisuko is, I'm very curious as to why you chose it. I mean, this is even more obscure than Gina Szanboti.
I'm betting it too is an anagram, just can't figure out of what. (hoshii sukos(h)i: want a litttle bit?
)
Wish you'd drop in again and tell us. ^.^
Reply to GinaSzanboti - Message ID#: 8294406
03-21-2011 10:49 AM
GinaSzanboti wrote:
This one's been staring me in the face forever, but I never got it
until now. The brand of dog food Faye steals from Ein is Dog One
- or maybe it's One Dog? or 1 Dog One? Both the numeral and the
word appear on the label. And of course, Ein is German for one...sort of.
"Eins" is the word for one, but einhundert is one hundred, einthusend
is one thousand. Einstein means "a stone." So I think "ein" is
sort of the combining form of one, or equivalent to "a."
Any Germans care to clarify this?
Here. You're right.
R.I.P.Mouse-TD wrote:
Ein was named Ein due to the fact that it was on his collar. It was on his collar because it means 1 and he was the first data dog; but it was also there because 1 is the code your computer uses as open (your computer translates all data into 1's and 0's, and 0 is a closed circut, 1 is an open curcit). Since Ein was created as a data dog to decode and hack almost anything, I believe the designers named him open, as in open all programs. Just my thoughts.
I don't think so - as Gina wrote, "Ein" is the (male or neutral) counting pronoun - like "a" - but not the number "1".
You could think that the people responsible just made a mistake, but whatever the reason, everything I read in German in Cowboy Bebop is perfectly correct. There are some parking signs in the series that lead to parking houses etc., they even use the German bus stop sign. In the movie, when Spike goes to the train station, there's a billboard sign with the brand of DB (Deutsche Bahn, the german train company) inviting to a summer meeting at the train station Alexanderplatz (which is in Berlin).
English, however, is sometimes wrong ("This program is broadcasted in 12 language." or similar, but it's the singular of language), but I guess you know that.
I don't know if these are easter eggs, but there's also a sign for WcDonalds, and the two cops have a computer that looks very much like a Power Mac G3, but it has "G11" on it (it's the future, you know
). There are a bunch of other references to real-world companies, I'll make a wiki article out of that. (Oh, btw: The Truck in the movie is a Type D. Special Edition by... *drumroll* Gina Motors
)
VLN wrote:
what's interesting, or not, is that ed is almost never called "edward" in the japanese dub. it's always "ed," except for the time when she first said her full name in "jammin' with edward." i think in the english dub, they usually call her "edward." is that because it sounds better? i have no idea. and this is totally off topic.
Funny - if I remember correctly, she's NEVER addressed with "Edward" in the German dub.
Reply to Chilled - Message ID#: 59222260
08-26-2011 06:46 PM
'One one' sounds just like わんわん (wanwan).
Try searching for that word in http://jisho.org/ !
Reply to Chilled - Message ID#: 59222260
08-27-2011 03:59 PM - edited 08-27-2011 04:00 PM
Chilled wrote:You could think that the people responsible just made a mistake, but whatever the reason, everything I read in German in Cowboy Bebop is perfectly correct. There are some parking signs in the series that lead to parking houses etc., they even use the German bus stop sign. In the movie, when Spike goes to the train station, there's a billboard sign with the brand of DB (Deutsche Bahn, the german train company) inviting to a summer meeting at the train station Alexanderplatz (which is in Berlin).
Sorry to have failed to respond for so long - as noted above, I don't see updates to this thread often, unless I deliberately go to check.
If you could post those German signs, etc., where they appear, and their translations, I'd love it! (still hoping someday someone will post the Russian signage).
@Konanakun As you can see, I have other obsessions.
So...can you shed any light on this from the first page?
"The seal of the Consulaat Der Nederlanden flies by several times, along with what seems to be a freeway sign reading Den Haag 6, with A12. Den Haag is The Hague, where the Japanese consulate is located, and A12 is the freeway that gets you there. However, 6 is the exit number, and I'm still not sure why they chose that exit, which leads to the town of Rijswijk. Rijswijk is home to a number of embassies and government buildings, but I wonder what's there that would prompt this sort of attention from Japanese animators?"
Reply to GinaSzanboti - Message ID#: 61497672
08-28-2011 11:41 AM
According to Google, A12 afrit 6 leads to Zoetermeer Centrum, not Rijswijk (which is on the A4). Anyway, I have no idea why this would pop up in a Japanese science fiction anime. Maybe one of the animators was from Zoetermeer or had lived there for a while?
BTW, the way things are going in Dutch politics at the moment, I'm glad to see that The Hague will still exist seventy years from now.
Reply to Konankun - Message ID#: 61511792
08-28-2011 04:22 PM
You know, it never occurred to me to go back and google map it. Back when I first posted it, what was available wasn't as sophisticated as now, and I think I was told about Rijswijk by a friend in the Netherlands, who I think didn't really understand at all what I was trying to find out, let alone why. ![]()
Not that I've turned up anything new though. As you suggested, probably someone on staff stayed at a hotel there or something while visiting the Hague. Looks like it has some interesting shopping centers and attractions. ![]()
Reply to GinaSzanboti - Message ID#: 61497672
08-30-2011 04:29 AM
GinaSzanboti wrote:
If you could post those German signs, etc., where they appear, and their translations, I'd love it!
Sure, when I see them again, I will! ![]()
Reply to GinaSzanboti - Message ID#: 61514108
10-12-2011 07:17 PM
These are amazing finds! Thanks so much.... Every time I watch bebop I'll try to look for some ![]()
Reply to GinaSzanboti - Message ID#: 5943556
02-25-2012 03:14 PM - edited 02-26-2012 12:44 PM
Well this is an older post but i found something interesting. When Faye is left drifting in space in session 4 there are all the packs of food floating around. On a pack, an address that is listed that you can partly see ends with "Chicago illonois, Japan" which is weird because 1, earth was bascily destroyed and there isn't much left on it, and 2, the city and state are in america and not japan. ![]()
Reply to ApathyInc - Message ID#: 5951787
04-05-2012 10:33 PM
ApathyInc wrote:I couldn't read the corporation titles too well, so these are just the names from "Bohemian Rhapsody"--the from list:Terje Hakonsen; Peter Rine; Jenie Linn; Dariel Franko; Dave Lie; Jenie Wara; Trisia Byrns; Tod Richers; Fabien Rahrar; Ingemar Vackman; Yang-ming Wang; Leslie Olsen; Aleksi Litovara; Max Proetzeneder; Syng-jung Kim; Yuri Yoshikaba; Christian Tholesen; Ros Powers; Takasi Ni**bleep**a; Jeff Andersone; Derek Heydt; Barrett Christian; JJ Thomass; Shingo Takahaji; Shanon Dan; Anita Schwaler; Rubi Nishikawa; Reto Lumm; Jean-Baptist Charle; Mike Bealo; Kebin Young; Mark Hormes; Natalia Archaubault; Jacques Martin; Alice Ferland; Serge Langlobe.the to list: Luice O'Rilley; William Gardner; Brian Lalumiere; Tony Blanc; Jear-Yvea Corbeis; Jocelyn Fortin; Camillic (?) Corbell; Alexsei N Stakhanov; Kari Scheiermacher; Chung-song park; Oscar Milton; Tunglai Chiang; Jomo Kasavubu; Charlie Chang; Frederic Gomulka; Fenghong Santing; Rudyard Keats; Minn Van Nauyen; Albert Abelard; Hans Christian III; Carolus Strindberg; Francis Loyola; Wolfgang Waldheim; Mitchell Steinbeck; Lev Barmn; Ferdinand Cabral; Benito Vespucci.
Benito Mussolini
Amerigo Vespucci
kienasai! eien ni!
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Reply to ApathyInc - Message ID#: 5951787
04-05-2012 10:40 PM
ApathyInc wrote:I couldn't read the corporation titles too well, so these are just the names from "Bohemian Rhapsody"--the from list:Terje Hakonsen; Peter Rine; Jenie Linn; Dariel Franko; Dave Lie; Jenie Wara; Trisia Byrns; Tod Richers; Fabien Rahrar; Ingemar Vackman; Yang-ming Wang; Leslie Olsen; Aleksi Litovara; Max Proetzeneder; Syng-jung Kim; Yuri Yoshikaba; Christian Tholesen; Ros Powers; Takasi Ni**bleep**a; Jeff Andersone; Derek Heydt; Barrett Christian; JJ Thomass; Shingo Takahaji; Shanon Dan; Anita Schwaler; Rubi Nishikawa; Reto Lumm; Jean-Baptist Charle; Mike Bealo; Kebin Young; Mark Hormes; Natalia Archaubault; Jacques Martin; Alice Ferland; Serge Langlobe.the to list: Luice O'Rilley; William Gardner; Brian Lalumiere; Tony Blanc; Jear-Yvea Corbeis; Jocelyn Fortin; Camillic (?) Corbell; Alexsei N Stakhanov; Kari Scheiermacher; Chung-song park; Oscar Milton; Tunglai Chiang; Jomo Kasavubu; Charlie Chang; Frederic Gomulka; Fenghong Santing; Rudyard Keats; Minn Van Nauyen; Albert Abelard; Hans Christian III; Carolus Strindberg; Francis Loyola; Wolfgang Waldheim; Mitchell Steinbeck; Lev Barmn; Ferdinand Cabral; Benito Vespucci.
Saint Francis Xavier
Saint Ignatius Loyola
both Jesuit priests/educators
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05-09-2012 11:32 AM
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