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OK, I dunno if you guys saw the newest updates to the adult swim schedule...but...this...is..weird. seriously, I dunno WHAT is happening here. To begin with...THEY'RE NOT SHOWING MUSHROOM SAMBA! I'm serious, this week is ep 16- Black Dog Serenade...but then we skip ahead to 20 Perret Le Fu! What the...then we go to Wild Horses (21)! Why? Mushroom Samba is my absolute favorite...and we don't get it? Why the hell not?

 

Plus..guys...I hope you got othwer plans for Christmas Eve and New Years Eve,..cause we won;t be able to get together. You're NOT gonna believe this..but we're gonna have Bleach marathons both weeks! Honest, an all night Bleach marathon on Christmas Eve and another all night Bleach on New  Years!

 

Seriously...what the hell?! I like Bleach...but Bebop is my favorite and i wanted to share it with YOU guys...not the Bleach boards.

 

That's all screwed up.

 

Don't believe me? Check it ourt for yourself!

 

http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/onair.html

 

Seriously...we can't get together...this bites. :smileysad: and I can't see my fav ep for some reason. Not FAIR, I always look forward to that! This is all wrong!

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This is seriously going to make people sick of Bleach. 

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I know..and it's not even new eps of that looooong filler. It's just reruns!

 

Honestly when did Bleach turn into A Christmas Story!

 

I wanna know aslo why we're not gonna see Mushroom Samba! That's my absolute favorite!!

 

 

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Never mind, disregard my post in the other thread then... But that's just weird...

How will that affect everything after the New Year, though?
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True that.
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Never mind, disregard my post in the other thread then... But that's just weird...

How will that affect everything after the New Year, though?


I have nio idea, the schedule doesn't go that far. I only hope nothing is affected.

 

I still wanna know why we can't see Mushroom Samba.

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Ranlsa wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:
Never mind, disregard my post in the other thread then... But that's just weird...

How will that affect everything after the New Year, though?


I have nio idea, the schedule doesn't go that far. I only hope nothing is affected.

 

I still wanna know why we can't see Mushroom Samba.


That is a interesting question about after, it has me wondering as well. Are they going to keep the original line up or are they planning to change it, I suppose after this we'll see if DRRR stays or goes and how they'll shift this all around.


 

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They BETTER not change it if they know what's good for them!  They;'re gonna end up with no audience at all on Saturdays if they change this at all.

 

Honestly, two friggin marathons?! We don;t need two...or at least have them be different, like a week of Bleach and a week of Bebop or something.

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They BETTER not change it if they know what's good for them!  They;'re gonna end up with no audience at all on Saturdays if they change this at all.

 

Honestly, two friggin marathons?! We don;t need two...or at least have them be different, like a week of Bleach and a week of Bebop or something.


I'd personally do InuYasha one week, and Bebop the next, since those two are [as] classics.

 

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Ranlsa wrote:

They BETTER not change it if they know what's good for them!  They;'re gonna end up with no audience at all on Saturdays if they change this at all.

 

Honestly, two friggin marathons?! We don;t need two...or at least have them be different, like a week of Bleach and a week of Bebop or something.


I'd personally do InuYasha one week, and Bebop the next, since those two are [as] classics.

 


You're forgetting though, as adores Bleach. Honestly is Kubo bribing them or something?

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No, it's simply because right now Bleach is [as]'s cash cow. Those spots used to belong to Bebop and InuYasha in there hay day (I'm sure they still do pull in respectible ratings), and they pretty much got the same treatment as Bleach, though I don't believe they had two big night marathons given to them, although InuYasha did have it's move marathon once or twice.

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True all that. IY and CB are the true classics though. They have maintained a great deal of support for about 10 years on this network alone. They're the only pre-2003 shows still airing. They're too good and popular for them to give up or put aside. The only thing I can imagine is a slight schedule change when "The Final Act" finally comes on. I don't know how "Bleach" will be faring by then- i.e. more premieres- but since DRRR!! will have already been completed by then and there doesn't seem to be anything new in the future, except for "The Final Act," IY might move up in the line-up or have more than one showing. But I still don't think that should have any effect on CB, since it's still popular. However, this does not take into account the great possibility of reruns for other shows, like FMA or Kekkaishi. Thoughts?

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Also, I'm thinking that to get more interest in IY prior to the premiere of "The Final Act" they may have a marathon of some sort... Maybe...

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I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...
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Kekkaishi might be dropped in that case, I doubt they have plans of releasing FMA just yet. CB and IY are bot safe by default, they'll probably never leave. Bleach by that point will probably still be going strong, but as strong? Remains to be seen, those fillers are slowly starting to really kill the series.

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There's also the potential DRRR!! reruns to consider, since the series will be over by the beginning of the marathon craziness, but I guess that remains to be seen based on how everyone reacts to the next few weeks and how they felt about their time watching it overall. I'm fairly certain it'll remain though; from what I see, it has decent reviews in the very least.

Yeah, unlike the case of CB and IY, which have great staying power (let's hope they keep it, which I don't doubt), things aren't looking so good for Kekkaishi. I personally like it, but I don't think we'll see anymore of it once "The Final Act" comes out next year... However, if they get rid of the second Bleach and FMA showings prior to the IY rerun at 5:30, then they might be able to keep it... Maybe... But then again, like I said, they might want to reserve that for DRRR!!
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I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...

Yes the movies had there marathons.

 

InuYasha though has the advantage of fans who stick to specific board a lot and tend to play the games that take place in it, having spent a majority of my time around there before I entered into "helped-dom" it still looks similar, weird threads, games and eliminations, and I know Doxie has been weeding out threads in AD, InuYasha related which helps move the board up (something I should get around to doing in my spare time) Nonetheless it is still running at high speed which is always good to see in any board no matter what way it is being done.

 

The problem with both IY and CB is the simple fact that pretty much everyone has already seen all the episodes, and there isn't a whole lot new to really talk about except going over things that have been run over one to many times. But in this case, your going to see multiple episodes of Bleach already seen and filler. I think that's one that that [as] does, they milk things a little too much and people lose interest in it because of it. This is not saying that IY and CB are in anyway boring, not at all, they are great anime that deserve to stand the test of time, but Bleach I'm wondering if it can or will, it's a hard question with it since it's a VERY long anime, longer than InuYasha, which makes you wonder if [as] will hold onto Bleach after it is completely finished.

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There's also the potential DRRR!! reruns to consider, since the series will be over by the beginning of the marathon craziness, but I guess that remains to be seen based on how everyone reacts to the next few weeks and how they felt about their time watching it overall. I'm fairly certain it'll remain though; from what I see, it has decent reviews in the very least.

Yeah, unlike the case of CB and IY, which have great staying power (let's hope they keep it, which I don't doubt), things aren't looking so good for Kekkaishi. I personally like it, but I don't think we'll see anymore of it once "The Final Act" comes out next year... However, if they get rid of the second Bleach and FMA showings prior to the IY rerun at 5:30, then they might be able to keep it... Maybe... But then again, like I said, they might want to reserve that for DRRR!!

 

A rerun would be a good idea, the series is really one of those series that you have to watch a couple times to see the bigger picture and how it all works and came to be, some parts can be weird and confusing it really overwhelming to newer veiwers of the show. One reason I figured that if Durarara!! did indeed get a rerun it would probably do a little better this time around to give people a second chance to see everything going down. And it does get good reviews, some don't like it, but that's how it is for every anime, but that hasn't stopped it.

 

It really depends on how they work it, with a little work removing Kekkaishi would allow Durarara!! to move back at take that spot, it would mean dropping another series if they did indeed get another series, the question however is when are they going to? It could work that they get rid of Kekkaishi and replace Durarara!! in that timeslot, and then once they get everything set up for whichever anime is next they can drop Durarara!! and switch things around to how they feel comfortable to make a spot for the premiering anime.

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I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...

Yes the movies had there marathons.

 

InuYasha though has the advantage of fans who stick to specific board a lot and tend to play the games that take place in it, having spent a majority of my time around there before I entered into "helped-dom" it still looks similar, weird threads, games and eliminations, and I know Doxie has been weeding out threads in AD, InuYasha related which helps move the board up (something I should get around to doing in my spare time) Nonetheless it is still running at high speed which is always good to see in any board no matter what way it is being done.

 

The problem with both IY and CB is the simple fact that pretty much everyone has already seen all the episodes, and there isn't a whole lot new to really talk about except going over things that have been run over one to many times. But in this case, your going to see multiple episodes of Bleach already seen and filler. I think that's one that that [as] does, they milk things a little too much and people lose interest in it because of it. This is not saying that IY and CB are in anyway boring, not at all, they are great anime that deserve to stand the test of time, but Bleach I'm wondering if it can or will, it's a hard question with it since it's a VERY long anime, longer than InuYasha, which makes you wonder if [as] will hold onto Bleach after it is completely finished.


That's what I thought. Thanks!

 

True all that... But another thing specific to IY is that we still have new material waiting to get out there. That should definitely renew interest in the series and bring it to the forefront once again. People will definitely be really excited to get to revisit it, and it might even be an opportunity for roping in new fans. Hell, "The Final Act" is what got me into the show to begin with. Besides, like you said, the board is still extremely active.

 

I don't think that people will ever tire of either show, in all honesty. They have great content and have maintained the fandom rather consistently through all these years. And despite the fact that it seems like the content is being regurgitated in discussions, it's important to consider that these shows have a lot of layers to them, which only increases their merit and makes an even stronger argument for them staying.

 

But you're right. The problem with "Bleach" is that it's just a long series filled with a lot of fillers, which neither CB nor IY have really suffered from. Although the series has ways to go before it's over, people are already beginning to tire of it. Since "Bleach" has become very boringly consistent like that, it definitely seems to highlight just how interesting and great IY and CB are. However, since "Bleach" still has a large fanbase, and, like you said, [as] totally milks it, it'll still have staying power, but there's no knowing how it'll fare in the following years, whether it can stand the test of time, as you so aptly put it.

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There's also the potential DRRR!! reruns to consider, since the series will be over by the beginning of the marathon craziness, but I guess that remains to be seen based on how everyone reacts to the next few weeks and how they felt about their time watching it overall. I'm fairly certain it'll remain though; from what I see, it has decent reviews in the very least.

Yeah, unlike the case of CB and IY, which have great staying power (let's hope they keep it, which I don't doubt), things aren't looking so good for Kekkaishi. I personally like it, but I don't think we'll see anymore of it once "The Final Act" comes out next year... However, if they get rid of the second Bleach and FMA showings prior to the IY rerun at 5:30, then they might be able to keep it... Maybe... But then again, like I said, they might want to reserve that for DRRR!!

 

A rerun would be a good idea, the series is really one of those series that you have to watch a couple times to see the bigger picture and how it all works and came to be, some parts can be weird and confusing it really overwhelming to newer veiwers of the show. One reason I figured that if Durarara!! did indeed get a rerun it would probably do a little better this time around to give people a second chance to see everything going down. And it does get good reviews, some don't like it, but that's how it is for every anime, but that hasn't stopped it.

 

It really depends on how they work it, with a little work removing Kekkaishi would allow Durarara!! to move back at take that spot, it would mean dropping another series if they did indeed get another series, the question however is when are they going to? It could work that they get rid of Kekkaishi and replace Durarara!! in that timeslot, and then once they get everything set up for whichever anime is next they can drop Durarara!! and switch things around to how they feel comfortable to make a spot for the premiering anime.


Yeah... I'm on epi. 20 of DRRR!! and definitely extremely confused. I can see why everyone would appreciate the reruns. The good reviews are also more than enough for incentive.

 

I honestly don't think that anything will come on before "The Final Act." Considering that a DVD release date is set for early 2012- I don't remember exactly when- I think that we're not looking any later than a March/April premiere date on [as]. So, the question remains of how they're going to occupy the one to two month period prior to that premiere. I'm guessing that they don't really have to worry about schedule changes until then, though. Another question is when they'll intend to broadcast it, or any other new show, for that matter. More than likely, they'll keep "Bleach's" slot, since it does just fine there. Odds are that it'll get a 12:30 timeslot, unless if they know something that we don't, effectively replacing DRRR!!. But then again, that begs the question of how a somewhat sudden change in the middle of a first time rerun- if that makes sense- will affect things. Maybe they want to bring "The Final Act" sooner than we think? But that's unlikely...Maybe... And I don't think any news will be released for it until the new year. But either way, I definitely see Kekkaishi either getting the boot or a graveyard timeslot (and only if they're feeling magnanimous). However, another player we've neglected is FMA. Sure there's no way they'll drop it in the near future... ever. But will that be shifted around?  

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LoverDemon wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:
I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...

Yes the movies had there marathons.

 

InuYasha though has the advantage of fans who stick to specific board a lot and tend to play the games that take place in it, having spent a majority of my time around there before I entered into "helped-dom" it still looks similar, weird threads, games and eliminations, and I know Doxie has been weeding out threads in AD, InuYasha related which helps move the board up (something I should get around to doing in my spare time) Nonetheless it is still running at high speed which is always good to see in any board no matter what way it is being done.

 

The problem with both IY and CB is the simple fact that pretty much everyone has already seen all the episodes, and there isn't a whole lot new to really talk about except going over things that have been run over one to many times. But in this case, your going to see multiple episodes of Bleach already seen and filler. I think that's one that that [as] does, they milk things a little too much and people lose interest in it because of it. This is not saying that IY and CB are in anyway boring, not at all, they are great anime that deserve to stand the test of time, but Bleach I'm wondering if it can or will, it's a hard question with it since it's a VERY long anime, longer than InuYasha, which makes you wonder if [as] will hold onto Bleach after it is completely finished.


That's what I thought. Thanks!

 

True all that... But another thing specific to IY is that we still have new material waiting to get out there. That should definitely renew interest in the series and bring it to the forefront once again. People will definitely be really excited to get to revisit it, and it might even be an opportunity for roping in new fans. Hell, "The Final Act" is what got me into the show to begin with. Besides, like you said, the board is still extremely active.

 

I see that as a possibility, no doubt, I'm an Inu fan myself, my name should make that obvious, I think the biggest worry would be how the community looks at the fanbase and what the fanbase will come back with. The original fanbase was crazed and it was really bad when it originally aired back in the day most aren't to fond of that, plus I believe there are some avide "RIH's" left in the lurks.

 

I don't think that people will ever tire of either show, in all honesty. They have great content and have maintained the fandom rather consistently through all these years. And despite the fact that it seems like the content is being regurgitated in discussions, it's important to consider that these shows have a lot of layers to them, which only increases their merit and makes an even stronger argument for them staying.

 

People already have in a sense, most simply don't both discussing once things become the same, in fact Bebop has become a victim of that, episodes have been seen so many times it's pretty much discussing the same thing over and over, I have never once gotten tired Bebop in any respect definitely at the top of my list and the shortness leaves for more re-watching value. Which IY has an issue with, it's a long anime which makes it even more difficult to hold ones attention (this of course goes person-by-person different people have different tastes in what works for them and what doesn't.) Once again not saying anything bad about either, but eventually there comes a time when discussion loses it's splendor. IY does have new content but it's already been discussed by a few vets in that folder many times, it will bring in new ideas and people for more discussions no doubt about that, but like Durarara!! it'll only hold for so long. Remember this isn't a new series it's a continuation of a series that has played already.

 

But you're right. The problem with "Bleach" is that it's just a long series filled with a lot of fillers, which neither CB nor IY have really suffered from. Although the series has ways to go before it's over, people are already beginning to tire of it. Since "Bleach" has become very boringly consistent like that, it definitely seems to highlight just how interesting and great IY and CB are. However, since "Bleach" still has a large fanbase, and, like you said, [as] totally milks it, it'll still have staying power, but there's no knowing how it'll fare in the following years, whether it can stand the test of time, as you so aptly put it.

 

Well Inuyasha suffered heavily from fillers, a lot of people got fed up with it because it dragged on for too long and to many fillers were going on (this turned out to be a problem because it was used as a way to hold the show back while the manga was under development and was long from finished.) By the time it hit the 90's and a lot of people dropped it because the fillers got bad, I remember this very clearly. But it's simply going to go by what the ratings tell them, if Bleach can withstand those ratings long enough it'll stay if it can't it'll go, but that remains to be seen.


 

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LoverDemon wrote:

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I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...

Yes the movies had there marathons.

 

InuYasha though has the advantage of fans who stick to specific board a lot and tend to play the games that take place in it, having spent a majority of my time around there before I entered into "helped-dom" it still looks similar, weird threads, games and eliminations, and I know Doxie has been weeding out threads in AD, InuYasha related which helps move the board up (something I should get around to doing in my spare time) Nonetheless it is still running at high speed which is always good to see in any board no matter what way it is being done.

 

The problem with both IY and CB is the simple fact that pretty much everyone has already seen all the episodes, and there isn't a whole lot new to really talk about except going over things that have been run over one to many times. But in this case, your going to see multiple episodes of Bleach already seen and filler. I think that's one that that [as] does, they milk things a little too much and people lose interest in it because of it. This is not saying that IY and CB are in anyway boring, not at all, they are great anime that deserve to stand the test of time, but Bleach I'm wondering if it can or will, it's a hard question with it since it's a VERY long anime, longer than InuYasha, which makes you wonder if [as] will hold onto Bleach after it is completely finished.


That's what I thought. Thanks!

 

True all that... But another thing specific to IY is that we still have new material waiting to get out there. That should definitely renew interest in the series and bring it to the forefront once again. People will definitely be really excited to get to revisit it, and it might even be an opportunity for roping in new fans. Hell, "The Final Act" is what got me into the show to begin with. Besides, like you said, the board is still extremely active.

 

I see that as a possibility, no doubt, I'm an Inu fan myself, my name should make that obvious, I think the biggest worry would be how the community looks at the fanbase and what the fanbase will come back with. The original fanbase was crazed and it was really bad when it originally aired back in the day most aren't to fond of that, plus I believe there are some avide "RIH's" left in the lurks.

 

Hmmm... True... But it seems that RIF's totally outnumber RIH's... Besides, the fandom for IY was so strong that it was able to dissuade [as] from cancelling it. At the risk of angering fans, especially with the premiere of the new series at hand, I don't think [as] will do anything that could possibly alienate one of its largest fanbases. Another important thing is that a majority of the fans aren't even on the boards. If there were, do you know how crazy it would get? Just looking at youtube and similar websites shows just how much ongoing support there is. In all honesty, I haven't even seen much hate directed toward the show outside of here... But maybe that's just me. Another funny thing is that IY has some of the highest rankings on Hulu and imdb...

 

I love your name by the way! I always wanted to throw that out there, but now you gave me the chance. :smileyvery-happy: :smileywink: 

 

I don't think that people will ever tire of either show, in all honesty. They have great content and have maintained the fandom rather consistently through all these years. And despite the fact that it seems like the content is being regurgitated in discussions, it's important to consider that these shows have a lot of layers to them, which only increases their merit and makes an even stronger argument for them staying.

 

People already have in a sense, most simply don't both discussing once things become the same, in fact Bebop has become a victim of that, episodes have been seen so many times it's pretty much discussing the same thing over and over, I have never once gotten tired Bebop in any respect definitely at the top of my list and the shortness leaves for more re-watching value. Which IY has an issue with, it's a long anime which makes it even more difficult to hold ones attention (this of course goes person-by-person different people have different tastes in what works for them and what doesn't.) Once again not saying anything bad about either, but eventually there comes a time when discussion loses it's splendor. IY does have new content but it's already been discussed by a few vets in that folder many times, it will bring in new ideas and people for more discussions no doubt about that, but like Durarara!! it'll only hold for so long. Remember this isn't a new series it's a continuation of a series that has played already.

 

However, I think that the very fact that we're dealing with a continuation will be more than in its favor. People will definitely want to see how it'll play out, which is more than enough. But yeah, the length is definitely the issue. However, comparing it against shows that should've been longer, like CB- too bad it wasn't; that would've been great-, or much shorter- *cough* *cough* "Bleach"- it'll relatively still get favorable views. But I guess another thing is quality. IY and CB have very well become classics in their own rights and have been recognized for their merit as such. That in and of itself gives it a great deal of support that I don't think "Bleach" can ever get, although I do like it as well. The problem with short shows is that they end as soon as they start, which really hurts the discussion. But as this CB shows, with its superior quality, it can still maintain fans. Sure the discussion has been exhausted, but its quality definitely overrides all else, I think. But I maybe looking at it all wrong.  

 

But you're right. The problem with "Bleach" is that it's just a long series filled with a lot of fillers, which neither CB nor IY have really suffered from. Although the series has ways to go before it's over, people are already beginning to tire of it. Since "Bleach" has become very boringly consistent like that, it definitely seems to highlight just how interesting and great IY and CB are. However, since "Bleach" still has a large fanbase, and, like you said, [as] totally milks it, it'll still have staying power, but there's no knowing how it'll fare in the following years, whether it can stand the test of time, as you so aptly put it.

 

Well Inuyasha suffered heavily from fillers, a lot of people got fed up with it because it dragged on for too long and to many fillers were going on (this turned out to be a problem because it was used as a way to hold the show back while the manga was under development and was long from finished.) By the time it hit the 90's and a lot of people dropped it because the fillers got bad. But it's simply goes by what the ratings tell them, if Bleach can withstand those ratings long enough it'll stay if it can't it'll go, but that remains to be seen.

 

True... But comparatively speaking, people have always said that IY fillers were better than those of most other series, which definitely gives it even more support. And like I said, when comparing it against the extremely long length of "Bleach," it should relatively get more positive reviews.


 


 

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InuFan05 wrote:

LoverDemon wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:

LoverDemon wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:
I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...

Yes the movies had there marathons.

 

InuYasha though has the advantage of fans who stick to specific board a lot and tend to play the games that take place in it, having spent a majority of my time around there before I entered into "helped-dom" it still looks similar, weird threads, games and eliminations, and I know Doxie has been weeding out threads in AD, InuYasha related which helps move the board up (something I should get around to doing in my spare time) Nonetheless it is still running at high speed which is always good to see in any board no matter what way it is being done.

 

The problem with both IY and CB is the simple fact that pretty much everyone has already seen all the episodes, and there isn't a whole lot new to really talk about except going over things that have been run over one to many times. But in this case, your going to see multiple episodes of Bleach already seen and filler. I think that's one that that [as] does, they milk things a little too much and people lose interest in it because of it. This is not saying that IY and CB are in anyway boring, not at all, they are great anime that deserve to stand the test of time, but Bleach I'm wondering if it can or will, it's a hard question with it since it's a VERY long anime, longer than InuYasha, which makes you wonder if [as] will hold onto Bleach after it is completely finished.


That's what I thought. Thanks!

 

True all that... But another thing specific to IY is that we still have new material waiting to get out there. That should definitely renew interest in the series and bring it to the forefront once again. People will definitely be really excited to get to revisit it, and it might even be an opportunity for roping in new fans. Hell, "The Final Act" is what got me into the show to begin with. Besides, like you said, the board is still extremely active.

 

I see that as a possibility, no doubt, I'm an Inu fan myself, my name should make that obvious, I think the biggest worry would be how the community looks at the fanbase and what the fanbase will come back with. The original fanbase was crazed and it was really bad when it originally aired back in the day most aren't to fond of that, plus I believe there are some avide "RIH's" left in the lurks.

 

Hmmm... True... But it seems that RIF's totally outnumber RIH's... Besides, the fandom for IY was so strong that it was able to dissuade [as] from cancelling it. At the risk of angering fans, especially with the premiere of the new series at hand, I don't think [as] will do anything that could possibly alienate one of its largest fanbases. Another important thing is that a majority of the fans aren't even on the boards. If there were, do you know how crazy it would get? Just looking at youtube and similar websites shows just how much ongoing support there is. In all honesty, I haven't even seen much hate directed toward the show outside of here... But maybe that's just me. Another funny thing is that IY has some of the highest rankings on Hulu and imdb...

 

I love your name by the way! I always wanted to throw that out there, but now you gave me the chance. :smileyvery-happy: :smileywink: 

 

It was really a lot of fangirls in those days. During that time a lot of the whole problem that people have with Inu fan's came from that time and place, a lot happened that caused a lot of hate towards them, and flaming back. And it's hard to really say what they won't and will do, since they seem to be doing some pretty unpredictable things, the Bleach marathon included.

 

Most aren't but most will be when the time comes, the question is though, will it be the same way it was back then? (Mind you this was always a fear of mine when I was in that board, I wasn't a fan of how many fans/haters acted in those days, so I would try to avoid it at all cost.) Probably where a lot of what I'm saying is coming from, the experience of then.

 

It does get a lot of hate, however the main reason it does get hate is because of the fans, and how they react to a lot of things in a immature manner (this is speaking of the past not present of course) One reason Inu fans have a bad rep.

 

Haha, I get that a lot, thanks. Definitely a name that I will never let go of haha.


 

I don't think that people will ever tire of either show, in all honesty. They have great content and have maintained the fandom rather consistently through all these years. And despite the fact that it seems like the content is being regurgitated in discussions, it's important to consider that these shows have a lot of layers to them, which only increases their merit and makes an even stronger argument for them staying.

 

People already have in a sense, most simply don't both discussing once things become the same, in fact Bebop has become a victim of that, episodes have been seen so many times it's pretty much discussing the same thing over and over, I have never once gotten tired Bebop in any respect definitely at the top of my list and the shortness leaves for more re-watching value. Which IY has an issue with, it's a long anime which makes it even more difficult to hold ones attention (this of course goes person-by-person different people have different tastes in what works for them and what doesn't.) Once again not saying anything bad about either, but eventually there comes a time when discussion loses it's splendor. IY does have new content but it's already been discussed by a few vets in that folder many times, it will bring in new ideas and people for more discussions no doubt about that, but like Durarara!! it'll only hold for so long. Remember this isn't a new series it's a continuation of a series that has played already.

 

However, I think that the very fact that we're dealing with a continuation will be more than in its favor. People will definitely want to see how it'll play out, which is more than enough. But yeah, the length is definitely the issue. However, comparing it against shows that should've been longer, like CB- too bad it wasn't; that would've been great-, or much shorter- *cough* *cough* "Bleach"- it'll relatively still get favorable views. But I guess another thing is quality. IY and CB have very well become classics in their own rights and have been recognized for their merit as such. That in and of itself gives it a great deal of support that I don't think "Bleach" can ever get, although I do like it as well. The problem with short shows is that they end as soon as they start, which really hurts the discussion. But as this CB shows, with its superior quality, it can still maintain fans. Sure the discussion has been exhausted, but its quality definitely overrides all else, I think. But I maybe looking at it all wrong.  

 

I can think of one reason why people would want to watch it, but that is the whole reason they started watching it anyway. And the manga might cause a hit to it possibly as well, it's been out for a few years now as well.

 

Quality is a big deal. Even if a discussion has been done as long as the person discussing is enjoying it and if there are new fans brought along then leads for new, but similar discussions as well, but it depends on the anime mostly what goes on, how deep people will look, if people will bother to take the time to discuss it deeper. Mostly depends on the fans more than anything else and who is new and who is old.


 

But you're right. The problem with "Bleach" is that it's just a long series filled with a lot of fillers, which neither CB nor IY have really suffered from. Although the series has ways to go before it's over, people are already beginning to tire of it. Since "Bleach" has become very boringly consistent like that, it definitely seems to highlight just how interesting and great IY and CB are. However, since "Bleach" still has a large fanbase, and, like you said, [as] totally milks it, it'll still have staying power, but there's no knowing how it'll fare in the following years, whether it can stand the test of time, as you so aptly put it.

 

Well Inuyasha suffered heavily from fillers, a lot of people got fed up with it because it dragged on for too long and to many fillers were going on (this turned out to be a problem because it was used as a way to hold the show back while the manga was under development and was long from finished.) By the time it hit the 90's and a lot of people dropped it because the fillers got bad. But it's simply goes by what the ratings tell them, if Bleach can withstand those ratings long enough it'll stay if it can't it'll go, but that remains to be seen.

 

True... But comparatively speaking, people have always said that IY fillers were better than those of most other series, which definitely gives it even more support. And like I said, when comparing it against the extremely long length of "Bleach," it should relatively get more positive reviews.

 

That I can not confirm or deny myself, having only seen about the first 150-ish episodes of Bleach and having seen all of InuYasha, from my standpoint there wasn't a single filler that I hated, there were some that I adored and loved to watch a lot. But we'll see how the rating go for it.



 


 


 

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Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?!

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LoverDemon wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:

LoverDemon wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:

LoverDemon wrote:

InuFan05 wrote:
I wasn't on [as] back in those days, but I did hear of a few IY marathons- for the movies I think?. But I think that despite the fact that "Bleach" has higher ratings since it's new and currently ongoing, IY and CB still are more favorably viewed. Hell, IY always gets a lot of posts each week and the weekly airing has posts that always end up in the top three of the boards...

Yes the movies had there marathons.

 

InuYasha though has the advantage of fans who stick to specific board a lot and tend to play the games that take place in it, having spent a majority of my time around there before I entered into "helped-dom" it still looks similar, weird threads, games and eliminations, and I know Doxie has been weeding out threads in AD, InuYasha related which helps move the board up (something I should get around to doing in my spare time) Nonetheless it is still running at high speed which is always good to see in any board no matter what way it is being done.

 

The problem with both IY and CB is the simple fact that pretty much everyone has already seen all the episodes, and there isn't a whole lot new to really talk about except going over things that have been run over one to many times. But in this case, your going to see multiple episodes of Bleach already seen and filler. I think that's one that that [as] does, they milk things a little too much and people lose interest in it because of it. This is not saying that IY and CB are in anyway boring, not at all, they are great anime that deserve to stand the test of time, but Bleach I'm wondering if it can or will, it's a hard question with it since it's a VERY long anime, longer than InuYasha, which makes you wonder if [as] will hold onto Bleach after it is completely finished.


That's what I thought. Thanks!

 

True all that... But another thing specific to IY is that we still have new material waiting to get out there. That should definitely renew interest in the series and bring it to the forefront once again. People will definitely be really excited to get to revisit it, and it might even be an opportunity for roping in new fans. Hell, "The Final Act" is what got me into the show to begin with. Besides, like you said, the board is still extremely active.

 

I see that as a possibility, no doubt, I'm an Inu fan myself, my name should make that obvious, I think the biggest worry would be how the community looks at the fanbase and what the fanbase will come back with. The original fanbase was crazed and it was really bad when it originally aired back in the day most aren't to fond of that, plus I believe there are some avide "RIH's" left in the lurks.

 

Hmmm... True... But it seems that RIF's totally outnumber RIH's... Besides, the fandom for IY was so strong that it was able to dissuade [as] from cancelling it. At the risk of angering fans, especially with the premiere of the new series at hand, I don't think [as] will do anything that could possibly alienate one of its largest fanbases. Another important thing is that a majority of the fans aren't even on the boards. If there were, do you know how crazy it would get? Just looking at youtube and similar websites shows just how much ongoing support there is. In all honesty, I haven't even seen much hate directed toward the show outside of here... But maybe that's just me. Another funny thing is that IY has some of the highest rankings on Hulu and imdb...

 

I love your name by the way! I always wanted to throw that out there, but now you gave me the chance. :smileyvery-happy: :smileywink: 

 

It was really a lot of fangirls in those days. During that time a lot of the whole problem that people have with Inu fan's came from that time and place, a lot happened that caused a lot of hate towards them, and flaming back. And it's hard to really say what they won't and will do, since they seem to be doing some pretty unpredictable things, the Bleach marathon included.

 

Most aren't but most will be when the time comes, the question is though, will it be the same way it was back then? (Mind you this was always a fear of mine when I was in that board, I wasn't a fan of how many fans/haters acted in those days, so I would try to avoid it at all cost.) Probably where a lot of what I'm saying is coming from, the experience of then.

 

It does get a lot of hate, however the main reason it does get hate is because of the fans, and how they react to a lot of things in a immature manner (this is speaking of the past not present of course) One reason Inu fans have a bad rep.

 

Haha, I get that a lot, thanks. Definitely a name that I will never let go of haha.  Good! :smileyhappy:

 

True... All of that makes sense... This actually makes me think of the "Twilight" fandom and how people have reacted to it. Of course, that franchise also has low quality, so maybe it's not valid in this discussion. :smileyvery-happy:

 

But yeah, all the stuff you said is true... Ummm... I actually think that since the fandom has matured and toned down quite a bit, at least from what I've seen and heard, we may not face that much opposition or hatred. Maybe... Once again, we are fortunate to have "Twlight" as the scapegoat; it can take negative attention away from us...

 

I still think "The Final Act" will make it though, given the overall positive reception. But like you said, it's very well up in the air at the moment. But I still have high hopes, because "The Final Act" has even higher ratings than the original series. 

 

I don't think that people will ever tire of either show, in all honesty. They have great content and have maintained the fandom rather consistently through all these years. And despite the fact that it seems like the content is being regurgitated in discussions, it's important to consider that these shows have a lot of layers to them, which only increases their merit and makes an even stronger argument for them staying.

 

People already have in a sense, most simply don't both discussing once things become the same, in fact Bebop has become a victim of that, episodes have been seen so many times it's pretty much discussing the same thing over and over, I have never once gotten tired Bebop in any respect definitely at the top of my list and the shortness leaves for more re-watching value. Which IY has an issue with, it's a long anime which makes it even more difficult to hold ones attention (this of course goes person-by-person different people have different tastes in what works for them and what doesn't.) Once again not saying anything bad about either, but eventually there comes a time when discussion loses it's splendor. IY does have new content but it's already been discussed by a few vets in that folder many times, it will bring in new ideas and people for more discussions no doubt about that, but like Durarara!! it'll only hold for so long. Remember this isn't a new series it's a continuation of a series that has played already.

 

However, I think that the very fact that we're dealing with a continuation will be more than in its favor. People will definitely want to see how it'll play out, which is more than enough. But yeah, the length is definitely the issue. However, comparing it against shows that should've been longer, like CB- too bad it wasn't; that would've been great-, or much shorter- *cough* *cough* "Bleach"- it'll relatively still get favorable views. But I guess another thing is quality. IY and CB have very well become classics in their own rights and have been recognized for their merit as such. That in and of itself gives it a great deal of support that I don't think "Bleach" can ever get, although I do like it as well. The problem with short shows is that they end as soon as they start, which really hurts the discussion. But as this CB shows, with its superior quality, it can still maintain fans. Sure the discussion has been exhausted, but its quality definitely overrides all else, I think. But I maybe looking at it all wrong.  

 

I can think of one reason why people would want to watch it, but that is the whole reason they started watching it anyway. And the manga might cause a hit to it possibly as well, it's been out for a few years now as well.

 

Definitely! But what reason do you mean? The Inuyasha and Kagome "Will they, won't they" drama, you mean? That's definitely more than enough to rope them in. :smileywink: And I know, at least for those who haven't seen it yet, that they'll like what happens. 

 

Quality is a big deal. Even if a discussion has been done as long as the person discussing is enjoying it and if there are new fans brought along then leads for new, but similar discussions as well, but it depends on the anime mostly what goes on, how deep people will look, if people will bother to take the time to discuss it deeper. Mostly depends on the fans more than anything else and who is new and who is old.

 

Definitely true. It seems though, especially on the CB and IY boards, there's no shortage of that. I've also seen that on the DN boards... But yeah... But here's another thing. If something's a classic and you're really attached to it for more than one reason, you'll definitely watch it ad nauseum. Think of it like watching the Disney classics from your childhood, or whatever the equivalent of that would be from your personal experience; they're old and you won't always watch them, but you'll always love them and go back and won't mind watching over and over again.  

 

 

But you're right. The problem with "Bleach" is that it's just a long series filled with a lot of fillers, which neither CB nor IY have really suffered from. Although the series has ways to go before it's over, people are already beginning to tire of it. Since "Bleach" has become very boringly consistent like that, it definitely seems to highlight just how interesting and great IY and CB are. However, since "Bleach" still has a large fanbase, and, like you said, [as] totally milks it, it'll still have staying power, but there's no knowing how it'll fare in the following years, whether it can stand the test of time, as you so aptly put it.

 

Well Inuyasha suffered heavily from fillers, a lot of people got fed up with it because it dragged on for too long and to many fillers were going on (this turned out to be a problem because it was used as a way to hold the show back while the manga was under development and was long from finished.) By the time it hit the 90's and a lot of people dropped it because the fillers got bad. But it's simply goes by what the ratings tell them, if Bleach can withstand those ratings long enough it'll stay if it can't it'll go, but that remains to be seen.

 

True... But comparatively speaking, people have always said that IY fillers were better than those of most other series, which definitely gives it even more support. And like I said, when comparing it against the extremely long length of "Bleach," it should relatively get more positive reviews.

 

That I can not confirm or deny myself, having only seen about the first 150-ish episodes of Bleach and having seen all of InuYasha, from my standpoint there wasn't a single filler that I hated, there were some that I adored and loved to watch a lot. But we'll see how the rating go for it.


Same... I'm just going from what I heard. The IY fillers are definitely very entertaining, so it compensates for their irrelevance to the plot. That's why people like them. On the other hand, people are always bashing the "Bleach" and "Naruto" fillers, among those of other series. But like you said, we'll just have to wait and see.


 


 


 


 

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Wow! This is really a good discussion! I'm sharing this with the IY boards! :smileysurprised:
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