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"Venomous Snake" The Vicious Fanclub.

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Vicious is viewed as a cold hearted, bloodthirsty, power hungry, and ambitious man, our for his own personal gain.He will stop at nothing to achieve his goals, and kill anyone who gets in his way. Although Vicious is generally like this, he does show some  ammount of sympathy, at one point in the series and a few flashbacks show him smilling, not his usual scowl that is plastered on his face.He joined the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate on Mars under the command of Mao Yenrai where he fought alongside Spike Spiegel.Little is known about Vicious, but throughout the show they give you small details about this BEAT of a man. It's somewhat apparent that his relationships with Spike and Julia, may suggest a possible love triangle. Even though Vicious and Spike are rivals, the two share a bond, that keep one another kicking. This thread was created for those like minded individuals wanting to disscuss Vicious, and/or fell for his persona. :smileyhappy:

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Vicious is viewed as a cold hearted, bloodthirsty, power hungry, and ambitious man, our for his own personal gain.He will stop at nothing to achieve his goals, and kill anyone who gets in his way. Although Vicious is generally like this, he does show some  ammount of sympathy, at one point in the series and a few flashbacks show him smilling, not his usual scowl that is plastered on his face. He became aquanted with Spike Spiegel while fighting alongside him durring the Titan Wars. He . He joined the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate on Mars under the command of Mao Yenrai.Little is known about Vicious, but throughout the show they give you small details about this BEAT of a man. It's somewhat apparent that his relationships with Spike and Julia, may suggest a possible love triangle. Even though Vicious and Spike are rivals, the two share a bond, that keep one another kicking. This thread was created for those like minded individuals wanting to disscuss Vicious, and/or fell for his persona. :smileyhappy:


 

Vicious and Spike knew each other since they were kids - it's in Anime Guide #1 that Mao took them in and raised them in the syndicate.

 

Also, Spike didn't fight in the war on Titan.  That war took place after Spike left the syndicate and there is no indication that Spike was ever there.   Where did you get the information that Spike was on Titan or that is where he met Vicious?

 

 

To clarify: I'm a chick, ok? And I'm a hugger. And I call people "honey." That's just how I talk. I live in the South (if you consider Florida to still be the "South") and it's what comes out of my mouth and hands on the keyboard.

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Jupiter Jazz Part 1 :smileyhappy: i believe when u shows them side by side fighting. XD yeah i kinda errored that one XD
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SpikesMrsSpooky wrote:

Vicious and Spike knew each other since they were kids - it's in Anime Guide #1 that Mao took them in and raised them in the syndicate.


This I didn't know. Of course I don't read stuff like that, and just go by what's in the show.. but with just that one can tell the two have a history...

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RPD wrote:

SpikesMrsSpooky wrote:

Vicious and Spike knew each other since they were kids - it's in Anime Guide #1 that Mao took them in and raised them in the syndicate.


This I didn't know. Of course I don't read stuff like that, and just go by what's in the show.. but with just that one can tell the two have a history...


I know, that's ok, I think 99.9% of Cowboy Bebop fans are the same way. xD  I have a bone in my head that makes me buy and read everything related to the shows I'm obsessed with. I have the anime guides both in the English that Tokyopop put out and the original Japanese.  Pretty sick.  They really say little to nothing about Spike and Vicious growing up - that was all.  Everything else is up to our imaginations (which I think is the coolest part).

 

Just from the flashbacks, one can tell that Spike and Vicious were at one time on good terms but had a falling out.  Was that ONLY about Julia or did other things happen as well?  They don't say, and I'm inclined to think there were other things going on that may not have had anything to do with Julia.  Not that it matters, it's my own way of trying to explain a few things. :smileyhappy:

 

Vicious IS a memorable character, and a cool one, that's for sure.

To clarify: I'm a chick, ok? And I'm a hugger. And I call people "honey." That's just how I talk. I live in the South (if you consider Florida to still be the "South") and it's what comes out of my mouth and hands on the keyboard.

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agreed :smileyhappy: i recall them back to back firing in real folk blues prt 1 :smileyhappy:
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i like to say a sexy love triangle :smileywink: hmmmm vicious, julia, and spike :smileywink: hmmmmmmmmmmm XD
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I really like Spike, but there is something appealing about Viscious' nihilsitic mentality.

Sign me up.

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*joins*

You gotta love Vicious
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thanx, for responding,i love how deep and 3 dimensional he is
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:smileyvery-happy: thanx vicious is supreme
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dam right he is
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I loved the complexity that Vicious brought to the show. You only see him in several episodes, and what makes Vicious so good, at least in my opinon is how little you know about him. Props to the creator for leaving a layer of mystery for this character, truly a standout among the average anime villions

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Indeed. Vicious is a very interesting character
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agreed and what roles he does play are vital to the storyline, you can feel a sense of empowerment between spike and vicious....i love it, it seems they're part of what drives one another
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He is 1 of the greatest villains ever in anime.

 

I still love watching the fight scenes he has with Spike.

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hes my fav villain :smileywink:, even more bad aarse than legato
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He's cold and calculating, but oddly enough, there is something about him that I like.
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SpikesMrsSpooky wrote:

ZOMBEET wrote:

Vicious is viewed as a cold hearted, bloodthirsty, power hungry, and ambitious man, our for his own personal gain.He will stop at nothing to achieve his goals, and kill anyone who gets in his way. Although Vicious is generally like this, he does show some  ammount of sympathy, at one point in the series and a few flashbacks show him smilling, not his usual scowl that is plastered on his face. He became aquanted with Spike Spiegel while fighting alongside him durring the Titan Wars. He . He joined the Red Dragon Crime Syndicate on Mars under the command of Mao Yenrai.Little is known about Vicious, but throughout the show they give you small details about this BEAT of a man. It's somewhat apparent that his relationships with Spike and Julia, may suggest a possible love triangle. Even though Vicious and Spike are rivals, the two share a bond, that keep one another kicking. This thread was created for those like minded individuals wanting to disscuss Vicious, and/or fell for his persona. :smileyhappy:


 

Vicious and Spike knew each other since they were kids - it's in Anime Guide #1 that Mao took them in and raised them in the syndicate.

 

Also, Spike didn't fight in the war on Titan.  That war took place after Spike left the syndicate and there is no indication that Spike was ever there.   Where did you get the information that Spike was on Titan or that is where he met Vicious?

 

 


Yeah, the Titan war didn't involve Spike in any way in terms of the backstory, and  I think you can count back Gren's time in prison, not sure of the number but it's mentioned in Jupiter Jazz 1, how long ago the war was from the current story. I'm gonna go out of a limb with a guess of something like 10 years so it kinda puts it ahead of the three year window of Spike's exit from the syndicate and the present day timeline.

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Indeed. Vicious is one truly great villain.
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:smileyvery-happy: he has an epic back story :smileyvery-happy:
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;D
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i began rewatching the series again :smileyhappy: it's been a few months ballad of a fallen angel is still my fav :smileyhappy:

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ZOMBEET wrote:
thanx, for responding,i love how deep and 3 dimensional he is

I just wish we could have seen a bit more of him. How he would have reacted to certain situations that the group were exposed to. 

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:smileyvery-happy: or a spin off series. *fan fic*
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