Death Note

[MegaNaraku]

ITS AMAZING!

[BUU8800]

Agreed

[Meilag32]

Yeah, it's pretty good. 

[MegaNaraku]

Indeed

[MegaNaraku]

Yeah, i forgot how amazing it was until i re-watched it again

[Meilag32]

I really should watch it again.  Unfortunately, I doubt I'll have the time anytime within the next 3-6 months. 

[SpikesMrsSpooky]

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Meilag32 wrote:

I really should watch it again.  Unfortunately, I doubt I'll have the time anytime within the next 3-6 months. 

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Yeah, same here.  I REALLY want to watch it again, but I want to watch Baccano! and Tiger & Bunny and a few others that are queued up.  Plus I'm trying to get back to my writing. 

I may be able to sneak some Death Note in there, but I know once i start I'll have to keep going. xD  May just read the manga again.

[Meilag32]

Tell me about it.  When did I lose most of my free time?!?  God damn.  The little free time I've got, I've been exploring with new anime.  I don't have time to sit down with a re-watch right now. 

What are you writing?  *stares*

[SpikesMrsSpooky]

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Meilag32 wrote:

Tell me about it.  When did I lose most of my free time?!?  God damn.  The little free time I've got, I've been exploring with new anime.  I don't have time to sit down with a re-watch right now. 

What are you writing?  *stares*

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Yeah, that's where I am. Plus I've been working weekends which is seriously cutting into any free time I wanted to have.  Plus new anime I'm watching, etc etc and so on.

I started a Cowboy Bebop fanfic the end of last May and am just now getting back to finish it.  It's going to be a two-parter.  A dark one.  The dark ones tend to be hard for me to write, I have to be in the right mood.  I was really dark when I started it, trying to get back there.  

I have a ton of them already written and I hate to think I'm out of stories.

[Meilag32]

I can't imagine you as "dark".  Or at least not as dark as what can be achieved. 

[SpikesMrsSpooky]

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Meilag32 wrote:

I can't imagine you as "dark".  Or at least not as dark as what can be achieved. 

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I've written some dark ones.  I'm sure they're not as dark as can be achieved, and yes, dark is pretty difficult to me 'cause I'm in general a happy person (at least cheerful).  Trying to get back to the crappy place I was when I started it and haven't had much luck so far.  Don't know if you're interested, but I can show you what passes for dark when I write.  I doubt they will pass muster though.

[SpikesMrsSpooky]

I doubt you'd be interested, but I went through my list and picked out the dark ones.  Some of the endings are pretty bleak:

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/charlie1.html Ode to Charlie

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/twist1.html  Hogan's Twist

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/greene1.html Rhapsody in Greene - (fairly bleak)

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/days1.html Days of Future Passed - (most violent. bleak)

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/monkey1.html Shock the Monkey - (bleak)

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/fools1.html Fools Rush In (Where Angels Fear to Tread) - (bittersweet/bleak)

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/brother1.html He Ain't Heavy (He's My Brother)

http://mrsspooky.net/bebop/fics/memphis1.html Memphis Rock (quite bleak)

They're not great, but I'm proud of them because I didn't think I could tell a story and I have a couple dozen of them up now.  These are the darker ones, the others are rather humorous, because, well, a lot of Cowboy Bebop is humorous.  And humorous is what I'm most comfortable writing.

[MegaNaraku]

Indeed, you should watch it again....when you can.

And speaking of dark. You may seem a bit dark, but many people can be dark and others may not even know it.

[Meilag32]

It's not that I'm not interested because I think they might be bad.  It's because I've only seen a couple of episodes of CB and I don't know anywhere near enough to get into CB fan fiction. 

But if you're trying to go dark, I'd read some H.P. Lovecraft to get some inspiration.  That guy was a genius.  The Call of Cthulhu, At the Mountains of Madness, The Dunwich Horror, so many great ones.  And they're all dark, bleak, have this "lurking horror out there to get you" feeling. 

[Meilag32]

I just want to make a distinction here.  When I mean dark, I don't mean those goth kids who wear trenchcoats, put on makup, drink black coffee, and pretend they're vampires.  Those are simply idiots. 

[SpikesMrsSpooky]

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Meilag32 wrote:

It's not that I'm not interested because I think they might be bad.  It's because I've only seen a couple of episodes of CB and I don't know anywhere near enough to get into CB fan fiction. 

But if you're trying to go dark, I'd read some H.P. Lovecraft to get some inspiration.  That guy was a genius.  The Call of Cthulhu, At the Mountains of Madness, The Dunwich Horror, so many great ones.  And they're all dark, bleak, have this "lurking horror out there to get you" feeling. 

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Yeah, if you don't know the show or the characters, they won't be that interesting.  I wasn't sure if you've seen it or not.  It's pretty dark even if it's funny as hell.  

I haven't read any Lovecraft, but I've seen a couple of the movies made from his books (The Dunwich Horror being one of them) and yeah, they scared the crap out of me. LOVED them!  I've been meaning to read Lovecraft anyway, thanks for the reminder!

[Meilag32]

Well, one of these days when I get around to watching Cowboy Bebop (I do plan to...someday), I'll go back and read these.  I have a semi-professional interest in writing.  Not that I've ever written anything I wanted to publish, but I was told by someone, who I consider to be a decent-enough authority on such things, that I should get into writing as a career. 

Well, I bet you can guess my view on films versus the book it was based on.  For your first entry, I'd pick something short.  You need to kind of get used to his writing style.  I'd suggest, "The Rats in the Walls".  It's a very short story (10ish pages, depending on the book).  A link to the story can be found here.  You can also use the website to read everything else he wrote.  But I'd suggest going to your local library and seeing what they have.  Nothing beats reading Lovecraft by a real book simply by lamp light with no other lights on. 

[MegaNaraku]

Of course they are. I hate those kind of people. They really irritate me.

[Lautrek]

I started watching the show again too. It's amazing, of course.

I have some questions, anyone willing to indulge me?

One thing I'm wondering about is:

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who told Roger from Wammy's house that L had died? It seems to me that the only people who knew of L's death were either dead themselves (Wedy, Aiber) or had no connection to Wammy's/Roger (Aizawa, Matsui Taro etc).

The knowledge of L's death was pretty important with regard to Near and Mello. Roger told them, and based on that info, they knew that 'L' was now actually not the 'real' L' (Lawliet) but someone else, probably Kira. If they had never known Lawliet had died, they might've never suspected that L was a 'fake' (Light). Especially since Light understood L's way of thinking and could easily pretend to be him. 

Another thing: to what extent could people be controlled by the Death Note?

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When Takada was kidnapped by Mello, couldn't she have used the Death Note to control him? For example, she could have written something like 'Mello - Dies of heart attack after freeing Takada Kiyomi from locked truck'. Now, since this is an action that is not impossible to do, it seems plausible to me that Takada could have written something like that. If this was possible, she could have escaped with no problems.

And then Mikami and Light wouldn't have had to kill her. Lol.

[Meilag32]

You don't need spoilers.  The show's been out forever and this is a thread about re-watching the series, after all. 

L had some sort of computer program set up so that if he didn't update it after a certain amount of time, it would automatically send an email to Roger informing him that L has died.  L must have correctly assumed that if he wasn't able to update the program after a while, then he must have died. 

That's a more difficult question to answer and is the subject of more than a few debates that can be found here on the boards.  I don't want to have to rewrite all the theories.  Maybe I'd just copy and paste them from the other threads. 

[Lautrek]

Right.. I vaguely remember something about a computer program as well.

But L also stated that he wanted Light to be his successor. He even asked him the question directly. Assuming he wanted Light to succeed him (ie. in the case of his death), it would make less sense for him to still have that program set up.

Then again, he always maintained some level of suspicion towards Light. Hm.

[SpikesMrsSpooky]

For the first one, Meiliag is right. L had it set up to send Roger a text notifying him of his death.  It's something like a "dead man switch" - something that if it isn't touched within a certain time limit takes whatever action its programmed for, set off an alarm, scram the reactor, etc.  That's what L did.  They showed a closeup of Roger's phone with the message "L is dead" right after that counter counted down to 0 followed by "transmitting" at the end of episode 25.

That's a good question about why Takada didn't control Mello to let her go then die.  She probably didn't know about it.  I have no idea if Light told her about that capability.  I'm inclined to think he did not, wanting to keep that knowledge to himself).

[Meilag32]

L lied a lot.  I'm guessing to try and trip up Light and read his immediate reactions to such statements.  If Light was Kira, he would respond favorably to succeeding L. 

[MegaNaraku]

There was only one thing that concerned me. Mello. When he made Kiyomi Takada strip in the truck he DID have a blanket, but call me perverted or not, i would have her take verything off and i would make SURE she didn't have anything on her. after that i wuld have given her the towel. Its life or death

[Meilag32]

Yeah, I wouldn't have been as considerate as Mello was.  But then again, he planned to be killed.  So maybe he knew that Takada possibly had a piece of the DN on her.