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SonjaJade
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Trisha Elric: Did she know Hoho was immortal?

DISCUSS.

(this is why my thread is better than yours rister...)

 

 

Personally, I don't think she knew.  I think she knew he had to leave for some mission and really expected him to come home, but I don't think she knew about his immortality or knew what he really was. 

 

But then again I wonder if she had a problem with him not marrying her...

 

 


     
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You mean, did she know that Van Hohenheim was a living Philosopher's Stone?  I'm not really sure.  It doesn't seem like she did.  But a part of me want's to think that Hohenheim would have told her what he really was.  At least, if he really loved her, you'd think he would.  But I doubt she'd ever say anything to anyone about it.  She loved him, after all.  I believe she would have kept his secret, even from their children.

 

If she knew the truth, would it be possible for her to just be happy for what they had? 

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ritster21
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Of course she knew.

 

Hohenheim always called himself a monster, and Trisha always told him that he was not.

 

Hohenheim even told her "Don't tell the boys what I really am."

 

Trisha knew that he was a living Philosopher's stone.

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I always assumed she knew, but looking back I guess it could be possible she didn't...

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Oh, she knew.  It's not even up for debate.

 

From the manga, chapter 68:

 

Hohenheim: "Trisha, ever since I acquired this body, I've seen so much death.  I tempered my sorrow by telling myself it was all a part of the greater flow of the universe.  I watched in silence, as humanity repeats the same mistakes over and over, never learning the lessons of history.  I've seen my closest friends grow old and die in the blink of an eye.  Familiar places have been rendered unrecognizable by the passage of time.  There were still many beautiful and mysterious things in the world I hadn't seen.  Each fresh encounter made me glad I had acquired this body and lived on. That's what I thought.... Trisha.... until I met you, and these children were born.  I never get older, and yet my sons, who share my blood, continue to age and grow.  Suddenly, I'm terrified.  I think to myself, 'Yes, I really am a monster.'"

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There was also the fact that she was 8 when he looked to be in his 30's *really much older* and he didn't age.

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HardcoreHunter wrote:

There was also the fact that she was 8 when he looked to be in his 30's *really much older* and he didn't age.


I remember that.  That was from that one useless episode. 

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Looks like Hawkflame and I were right.

 

SonjaJade and Meilag32 were wrong.

 

This thread was just terrible. Hawkflame is right. There is no debating whatsoever for this question. Trisha knew.

 

I am surprised that you didn't know this.

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ritster21 wrote:

Looks like Hawkflame and I were right.

 

SonjaJade and Meilag32 were wrong.

 

This thread was just terrible. Hawkflame is right. There is no debating whatsoever for this question. Trisha knew.

 

I am surprised that you didn't know this.


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Thank you.

 

The question was too easy. It was obvious that Trisha knew.

 

I am just surprised that 2 people did not catch on.

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No, I said it seemed like she didn't.  Which makes sense if she was hiding the secret.

 

And you missed the entire point of the thread.  So, you're actually wrong.  About a great many things. 

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SonjaJade
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I've read the manga but I had forgotten that part.

 

I admit I was wrong.  I'm more familiar with Brotherhood these days and I didn't recall any mention of it then.

 

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I doubt it.

 

Hohenheim was too secretive.

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Well, I'd say it depends on which universe you're talking about:

In the original series, Trisha had no idea that Hohenheim of Light was essentially just a slowly-rotting corpse with a foreign soul attached to it, and that his heart had been given to another for over 400 years--Dante of Deep Forest.

In Brotherhood, however, of course Trisha knew Van Hohenheim was a living Philosopher's Stone, but she didn't care--she loved him anyway. And I believe that despite his misgivings due to the fact that he was immortal and she would certainly die while he possibly lived on for hundreds of years, he loved her too.
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ALchemist81 wrote:
Well, I'd say it depends on which universe you're talking about:

In the original series, Trisha had no idea that Hohenheim of Light was essentially just a slowly-rotting corpse with a foreign soul attached to it, and that his heart had been given to another for over 400 years--Dante of Deep Forest.

In Brotherhood, however, of course Trisha knew Van Hohenheim was a living Philosopher's Stone, but she didn't care--she loved him anyway. And I believe that despite his misgivings due to the fact that he was immortal and she would certainly die while he possibly lived on for hundreds of years, he loved her too.

Fairly certain she knew in both. Not sure but I recall a few scenes when she at least saw what his body was going through. But could be wrong I admit

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Yeah, Trisha knew in both.

 

I remember the first anime showed Trisha and Hohenheim making love.

 

And then it showed Hohenheim's skin decaying and whatnot.

 

Trisha is not blind, so she would have seen it.

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She didn't know in the first series.  Hohenheim before it became noticeable to others.

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