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it hasn't really been made clear yet what is meant by saying that eureka is a humanoid coralian. 
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venus_df wrote:

thanks samson.  and, uh, thanks for the random dominic photo :smileyindifferent:  :smileyvery-happy:

the one i was looking for is one where it looks like nirvash has its mouth open.   i've been trying to figure out since last week who he looks like in that moment, and now i think i have.  big bird.  :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy:



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Cille wrote:
Yay for finding out stuff!

So... Eureka is a Coralian. Which makes her able to access (and perhaps communicate with) Coralians, which would explain why it was so important for her to go into the one Gekko State encountered before. To what end, I'm not sure, although Holland doesn't seem to be bent on getting rid of Coralians like the army seems to be. (Anti-Coralian squad in action, huh? Maybe that's part of what Holland and/or Eureka were referring to when they talked about things that had been done to the Coralians before. That they seemed sad or contrite about. In that one episode a long time ago. Which I totally remember.) And according to Adrock, who like knows stuff about stuff (we think), scubs are Coralians too. (And it sounded like this belief was what motivated Adrock to "start this war," as Talho put it.) Which basically means that Coralians are everywhere, which makes it seem kind of odd that everyone was so excited about finding the big-cloud Coralian, since they see scubs all the time. But if that's true, then it would be true that scubs kind of rule the earth, since they're pretty much everywhere. And the attempts to control and subdue them (like with the pile bunkers everywhere) would tend to go along with what Dewey said way back when about humans reclaiming sovereignity over the world. (Insert evil machination theme.) And if Eureka is a Coralian, and can communicate with and influence other Coralians, and scubs are Coralians, it pretty much means that Eureka could like tell the earth what to do. Which would make her awfully important with this whole world-domination plot. And also goes a long way to explaining why Talho referred to Eureka as "the world." I still wonder just how the Nirvash ties into all of this, since Charles was tasked with abducting it along with Eureka, and obviously Eureka's link with the LFO is highly significant. So maybe... the fact that LFOs come from the scub-infested earth (and like if scubs are Coralians) is why Coralian!Eureka is able to feel and converse with them as sort of a kindred spirit. The Eureka-Coralian-scub connection also gives an interesting perspective on Eureka getting subsumed into the scub, as if it was trying to make it part of her. Greedy scub. :smileytongue:

Good stuff. :smileyhappy:


And so we learn that the world that the humans of E7 craft their life upon is actually a living being and "it" spawned Eureka now all we need to do is learn why this "being" decided to create Eureka in the first place and more importantly what a human-form coralian can do. It will be interesting to see how (if it all) the plot will change from sub to dub


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K thx, nice sig!
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SHaDoWTyRanT wrote:
u guys are going to see a slight drop in animation quality starting with the episode in certain parts of the series, it really isnt that bad.. but u can tell


:smileysurprised:, spoiler!
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So we learned that the scubs/scurves are the cause of the increasing seismic activity in an attempt to get at humans and the pile bunkers are a way to fight back.  I’m curious about if they are part of the Coralian entity or if they are just the Coralian’s weapons.  I don’t quite get the Coralian being a giant cloud but also underground.

 

Also since the military knew Eureka is a human form Coralian why did they give her the Nirvash and make her part of an SOF team?  What did that accomplish with the bigger picture?  I don’t expect any answers that are spoilers but if something was hinted at in the earlier episodes that I didn’t notice I’d like to know.

 

I’m leaning toward Anemone being a clone created by the military.  She’s more unstable than Eureka and needs those injections.

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They probably found Eureka found out she was a corralian and decieded to use her against her own kind. I mean when we saw her in that flash back when she was in the SOF she was clearly brainwashed
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Also since the military knew Eureka is a human form Coralian why did they give her the Nirvash and make her part of an SOF team? What did that accomplish with the bigger picture? I don’t expect any answers that are spoilers but if something was hinted at in the earlier episodes that I didn’t notice I’d like to know.
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Was it brainwashing or just that she was such a blank slate she believed and did what anyone told her.
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MasterSamson wrote:


EdSpikeSesshyGirl wrote:
8GuageBrett....if you're reading this thread before you do screencaps, I MUST HAVE MOONDOGGIE IN THE BATHROOM freaking out at the sparkling cleanliness. :smileyvery-happy:



I think he said that he had a day off today so he would post this episodes caps and last weeks caps at the same time.


And Dominic's map. I distinctly recall seeing the words "North Atlantic Ocean" on it.
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RogueJedi86 wrote:
And Dominic's map. I distinctly recall seeing the words "North Atlantic Ocean" on it.
Hmmm, I didn't notice that before. It says "North Atlantic Ocea" -- there is no "n"

I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean, but I highly doubt it was a typo
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Dominic had a map that episode?
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The first thing after the episode title screen
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RandomAnimeWatcher wrote:


Cille wrote:
Yay for finding out stuff!

So... Eureka is a Coralian. Which makes her able to access (and perhaps communicate with) Coralians, which would explain why it was so important for her to go into the one Gekko State encountered before. To what end, I'm not sure, although Holland doesn't seem to be bent on getting rid of Coralians like the army seems to be. (Anti-Coralian squad in action, huh? Maybe that's part of what Holland and/or Eureka were referring to when they talked about things that had been done to the Coralians before. That they seemed sad or contrite about. In that one episode a long time ago. Which I totally remember.) And according to Adrock, who like knows stuff about stuff (we think), scubs are Coralians too. (And it sounded like this belief was what motivated Adrock to "start this war," as Talho put it.) Which basically means that Coralians are everywhere, which makes it seem kind of odd that everyone was so excited about finding the big-cloud Coralian, since they see scubs all the time. But if that's true, then it would be true that scubs kind of rule the earth, since they're pretty much everywhere. And the attempts to control and subdue them (like with the pile bunkers everywhere) would tend to go along with what Dewey said way back when about humans reclaiming sovereignity over the world. (Insert evil machination theme.) And if Eureka is a Coralian, and can communicate with and influence other Coralians, and scubs are Coralians, it pretty much means that Eureka could like tell the earth what to do. Which would make her awfully important with this whole world-domination plot. And also goes a long way to explaining why Talho referred to Eureka as "the world." I still wonder just how the Nirvash ties into all of this, since Charles was tasked with abducting it along with Eureka, and obviously Eureka's link with the LFO is highly significant. So maybe... the fact that LFOs come from the scub-infested earth (and like if scubs are Coralians) is why Coralian!Eureka is able to feel and converse with them as sort of a kindred spirit. The Eureka-Coralian-scub connection also gives an interesting perspective on Eureka getting subsumed into the scub, as if it was trying to make it part of her. Greedy scub. :smileytongue:

Good stuff. :smileyhappy:


And so we learn that the world that the humans of E7 craft their life upon is actually a living being and "it" spawned Eureka now all we need to do is learn why this "being" decided to create Eureka in the first place and more importantly what a human-form coralian can do. It will be interesting to see how (if it all) the plot will change from sub to dub





The coralian has been compared to gods several times. This may sound outragious, but I would compare Eureka to... Jesus. Think about it. It makes sense in some ways. You could even argue Anemone as the Anti-Christ! (though not quite so evil :smileyvery-happy: )

We also must remember that humans came to this planet, they are technically the ALIENS, not Eureka! (for those calling Eureka an alien.)

Sheesh, forgot they bleep that. Ridiculas.

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Well, this episode revealed many things. I noticed the quality wasn't as good as the past episodes but ok. Eureka being a Corilian +Renton's dad making her was the reason for the whole war and you could tell that that made a big impact in everybody at the room at the time. By the way, Renton in the pink apron with the little bow tie made me ROFL for about 10 minutes straight, I thought that looked hilarious on him, especialy when he was having such a serious conversation with Talho. Also, yay Holland is awake now! I want to see how Talho reacts. I didn't get this though: did Dominic quit the military or did he just go crazy and storm off because of the way Axel was treating him?

PS: How do you guys notice something as small as "Atlantic Ocea" in a map? Man, I wish I could pay attention to detail like that.
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Dominic is still in the military, he's part of Dewey's super special group. Did you mean to say "did he just go crazy and storm off because of the way Dewey was treating him?" because Axel was nothing but nice to him.

Dominic was trying to get more information on Renton and the causes of the Seven Swell, that's why he was in Bellforest.
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He didn't quit the military, but he sure is thinking over things right now. But I think he'll stay, at least for a while. Maybe if he sees some sort of senseless killing (like Holland and Eureka being ordered to kill that village,) he'll make up his mind to bolt. But where would he GO? :smileysurprised: Would he jion the Gekko? Would he try to bring Anemone? (that would be hilarious!) Would she try to bring Gulliver? (OMG! That would be even more hilarious, to see Renton carrying that thing!)
 
Which reminds me of something I noticed, When Anemone hands off Gulliver to the ship's captain, he has a great deal of trouble carrying him/her/it. But Anemone just slings him around, how strong is she?
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Eureka was used by the millitary much in the same way that Terra from Final Fantasy V1 (6) was used by the empire.

It seems as Anemone is almost obviously either a Coralian or a clone at this point. I lean torwards clone at this point because of facial similarities. But maybe they're just racial features of humanoid Coralians.  I dunno.

Haha, I love the juxtapostion of Eureka and Renton's apron colors. Even when things get heavy, the laughs still chill with the scene. How is this show not popular stateside?
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haha, I'm surprised I haven't seen any spin-off fan fictions of The adventures of Dominic and Anemone. I'd so read that in a hot minute.
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You know, looking at that title screen pic, the character's faces look... weird. Renton looks like he's got bags under his eyes, Him and Eureka just don't look happy. Dewey looks like Robert Patrick about to go all T-1000 on someone's a$$. Dominic seems disinterested, and Holland, OMG, he looks awful! He looks constipated or something. Come on, Anemone and Talhoe are the only one's even smiling here!
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MasterSamson wrote:
Dominic had a map that episode?



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I kinda felt Eureka was a lot like Terra too, riding around in her mech, killing everything. That whole scene reminded me of that so much, I think I made a similar comment on it way back then. And it's funny you mention her, one of my favorite pics ever is her is my main pic in the fan collective! I also love this one.
 
Why this show isn't much bigger, I just don't know, other than [as] like... never advertises ANY of their Saturday shows, except the dam comedies. They had ads for E7 in the VERY bigginning, which didn't do it any justice. They also started the show by itself. If it had started the same time as Bleach and TB, things might have been better(for all 3 shows, really.) Hopefully, it might get a second life if they show the reruns on weeknights after it's all done.
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Sweet! You're using the Yo**bleep**aka Amano renderings. Yea, it really feel into place for me with that connection after the initial Voderac episodes. Holland is like a less humorous,more stoic Locke for sure.

Well, I mean, about the popularity, It does have the great misfortune of not being with the shows it started with, and at a crap time slot it holds it's own. What surprises me more I think is Bleach. As popular as it is, someone is losing money. It's one of the most advertised animes out right now.

Sweet though, I never talk to anyone who knows any classic Final Fantasy these days.
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Punk_RockGirl wrote:
Eureka being a Corilian +Renton's dad making her was the reason for the whole war and you could tell that that made a big impact in everybody at the room at the time.
PS: How do you guys notice something as small as "Atlantic Ocea" in a map? Man, I wish I could pay attention to detail like that.



They didn't say Adrock made her, just that he found her, or she was found by someone, and Adrock took notice.

And I'm very attentive about this show(hence my music notes I make), so I saw the words. With this show, it seems they love to hide stuff in plain site like that. So I pay attention.
Stoner: In other words, that which we call memory in no way exists all on its own, which means it is inexorably connected to the environment surrounding it. Do you know who it was who said that, Matthieu?
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Speaking of classic ff, check my sig, one of the most memorable game quotes. Ever. I think the awkard translation made it even more memorable!

But other than Terra, I don't really see anything else that's comparable, maybe Cid and Axel.