General Adult Swim Discussion

[westpark]

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rumbatubbies-ok wrote:
Agreed^

People are greatly influenced by nostalgia, and they always seem to block out the negative aspects of the block during those certain years.

For one thing, I didn't like it when they moved anime to weeknights @ 12AM in 2003; that move also created the dichotomy of AS' fanbases. 2004 was pretty boring in terms of action pickups, and comedy seemed non-existent at the time. 2005 was their best year for action pick ups, but it was also the year when the comedy block saw an influx of crap and pre-owned shows that noone watched.

The fact is, no year is perfect. Every year has its up's and down's. Even the worst years of [as] (2009) had it's high-points. People need to take the time to un-fog their nostalgia goggles and judge the block by the shows. If you're going to judge [as] by the years, base it on their bumps.

However, I do think that [as] was in its prime from 2001 to 2002. No one complained about the block back then, and all the shows were a perfect fit.

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Uh....its not just pure nostalgia dulling terribleness. Sure, we bitched back then, but that was because we were spoiled fuuuuuudgein brats. We weren't appreciative of what we had.

2004 was actually quite the coolest fuuuuuudgein yr I remember for [as]. We got Wolfs Rain & Fullmetal & GITS & WHR & other anime. The comedy was exceptional too. I remember I used to diss the comedy back then. I watch it now & its insanely high-quality & decent in comparison to the pure filth & garbage they have now.

Its not just us making the past look better. The past was better. The economy was better. TV shows were better. [as] had higher budgets. Advertisers paid more for ads. The quality of the anime was better than the live-action garbage they're selling us now.

Some homer-hacks point to higher ratings now. Well, yeah, cuz we spent years building name & brand recognition. People used to write off [as] as nerd territory, & frankly, I think thats where most of us liked it. Without all the potheads, morons, & other generic idiots who like stuff like Delocated & Xavier instead of anime. We had our little geek paradise & it was **noel** awesome. Yes ratings were lower, but so was overall viewership of the network period & brand recognition. Proportionally though -- those were our golden years. Higher budgets meant more gambles & meant more diversity instead of the 'safe' lineup they have no on weekdays & the budget-cuts live-action schlock they peddle on Sunday night.

Its not that we dream it was better back then, it really was. Everything was, & the programming reflecting how life in this country was better.

[rumbatubbies-ok]

lmfao.

why are you replying to posts that are almost 3 years old?

[Dark_Lord_Khrima]

Probably because most shows that have been released post-2009 haven't had time to build up an impressive episode repertoire. Shows usually aren't repeated heavily until they have a few seasons under their belts, and rightfully so.

But um, yeah, if you look at the ratings, they're doing fine...

[-Dudeco-]

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rumbatubbies-ok wrote:

Agreed^

People are greatly influenced by nostalgia, and they always seem to block out the negative aspects of the block during those certain years.

For one thing, I didn't like it when they moved anime to weeknights @ 12AM in 2003; that move also created the dichotomy of AS' fanbases. 2004 was pretty boring in terms of action pickups, and comedy seemed non-existent at the time. 2005 & 06' were the best years for action pick ups, but it was also the year when the comedy block saw an influx of crap and pre-owned shows that noone watched.

The fact is, no year is perfect. Every year has its up's and down's. Even the worst years of [as] (2009) had it's high-points. People need to take the time to un-fog their nostalgia goggles and judge the block by the shows. If you're going to judge [as] by the years, base it on their bumps.

However, I do think that [as] was in its prime from 2001 to 2002. No one complained about the block back then, and all the shows were a perfect fit.

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Its not always nostalgia googles. Sometimes people don't like a newer show, but do like an older show because they like aspects of the latter better than those of the former.

I , for example, like The Powerpuff Girls because of its superb storytelling, good action and well paced, good old mindless fun. I don't , however, really like Johnny Test because , to me, its just an overated juvenile version of Dexter's Lab.

I like Futurama because of it's sentimental value, detailed animation, lovable characters, great writing and awesome sci fi story. I don't , however, like Allen Gregory because it's characters are all unlikable (Execpt Julie) and the writing and characters are painfully generic and extremely terrible.

[rumbatubbies-ok]

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westpark wrote:

Uh....its not just pure nostalgia dulling terribleness. Sure, we bitched back then, but that was because we were spoiled fuuuuuudgein brats. We weren't appreciative of what we had.

2004 was actually quite the coolest fuuuuuudgein yr I remember for [as]. We got Wolfs Rain & Fullmetal & GITS & WHR & other anime. The comedy was exceptional too. I remember I used to diss the comedy back then. I watch it now & its insanely high-quality & decent in comparison to the pure filth & garbage they have now.

Its not just us making the past look better. The past was better. The economy was better. TV shows were better. [as] had higher budgets. Advertisers paid more for ads. The quality of the anime was better than the live-action garbage they're selling us now.

Some homer-hacks point to higher ratings now. Well, yeah, cuz we spent years building name & brand recognition. People used to write off [as] as nerd territory, & frankly, I think thats where most of us liked it. Without all the potheads, morons, & other generic idiots who like stuff like Delocated & Xavier instead of anime. We had our little geek paradise & it was **noel** awesome. Yes ratings were lower, but so was overall viewership of the network period & brand recognition. Proportionally though -- those were our golden years. Higher budgets meant more gambles & meant more diversity instead of the 'safe' lineup they have no on weekdays & the budget-cuts live-action schlock they peddle on Sunday night.

Its not that we dream it was better back then, it really was. Everything was, & the programming reflecting how life in this country was better.

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Point proven^ You are blinded with nostalgia.

The shows on Adult Swim, or cable television, do not reflect the quality of the country; it reflects the quality of the network. America was on a slippery **noel** after 2003 when we deployed troops to the middle east, in which we spent trillions of dollars funding. I could list all the bad things this country has done in the 2001-2005 time period (or what Bush has done is his presidency), but that would take forever, and it's also off-topic.

AS was arguably better in 2001-2005, that's a proven fact. But you fail to take everything with a grain of salt, and recognize the negative aspects of those years. Even if the positive outweighs the negative, you still have to look at them equally. For example, 2004 and 2005 were the years that AS began taunting the action fans. 2003 svcked because ASA migrated to weeknights to make way for that shitty SVES block (which failed miserably.)

It's unhealthy to obsessively reminisce about the past, without looking at it objectively.

[SODMGBASEDBOYZ]

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rumbatubbies-ok wrote:

AS was arguably better in 2001-2005, that's a proven fact.

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it's a proven fact that it's arguable that it was better?

[rumbatubbies-ok]

ye

[Psilocybecubensis]

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westpark wrote:

Some homer-hacks point to higher ratings now. Well, yeah, cuz we spent years building name & brand recognition. People used to write off [as] as nerd territory, & frankly, I think thats where most of us liked it. Without all the potheads, morons, & other generic idiots who like stuff like Delocated & Xavier instead of anime. We had our little geek paradise & it was **noel** awesome. Yes ratings were lower, but so was overall viewership of the network period & brand recognition. Proportionally though -- those were our golden years. Higher budgets meant more gambles & meant more diversity instead of the 'safe' lineup they have no on weekdays & the budget-cuts live-action schlock they peddle on Sunday night.

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 Honestly you are very nieve sir, i have read a few of your other post concerning marijuana users and your rhetoric seems rather ignorant. i have noticed that you seem to buy into the delusion of the "Iam better than you because i dont smoke pot" crowd. That type of close-minded mentality fails to see the many similarities between marijuana supporters and other issues in history. I have noticed that you put an assumption on pot smokers whom of which enjoy shows such as Delocated and Xavier, frankly this is the same type of behavior observed from bigots, racist, and bluntly people with many insecurities. i understand you seem rather passionate about your views, but by going around and spreading this type of biasism is not right. Many and i mean Many pot smokers do not take delight in watching those kind of shows and in fact would rather watch anime. by you making these sort of assumtions only proves my point.

[RPD]

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westpark wrote:

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RPD wrote:

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AgentZ12the2nd wrote:
From 2001 to 2005 [adult swim] was perfect. Anyone agree/disagree?

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i do, but i'm just about at the end of my rope with it. unless something changes i don't figure to be a viewer for much longer...

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I feel the exact same way. I'm holding out for the newer anime & I guess for a vague sense of nostalgia that I'll somehow relive the excitement of the mid 2000s anime boom?

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Same here. I watch the block every once in a while, when I'm not doing anything else, but usually just the old reruns. I keep hoping they pick up something I'll like as well as those...

[pizzafetish]

I think what kept Adult Swim the most fresh was the fact that it was only broadcast on Sundays (and later on Thursdays as well)

Now everything is rebroadcast almost on a regular basis and the majority of their newer shows have a quality margin of passible to why in the hell is this airing?

Once Tim & Eric took off, they tried desperately to covet the ever scared "pothead market" and it's programming followed suit (further declining in quality)

I'm not saying that AS is making bad decisions necessarily, but they might want to revalute their programming and maybe even their lives