02-09-2012 01:56 AM
lololol this is easily the worst they've ever done.
Nah, far from the worst, I'd say. I enjoyed it, though it could have been fleshed out more and there were what I thought to be plotholes. Although, it could have just been Noel and I would have been okay with it.
Barring V, I never played V. But other than that, nothing else comes close, except for maybe X-2. But basically this was not a quality game period. And in terms of what I expect out of gaming quality from the franchise, the game was crap.
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02-09-2012 09:52 AM
FF12 is one of my favorites right next to FFX. But I'm a die-hard FF8 fan so I guess my opinion is the minority.
I got completely immersed in XII. I'm surprised you didn't like that one, that had a very old gen feel compared to X and XIII
02-09-2012 12:57 PM - edited 02-09-2012 01:00 PM
I'm almost done with this game, but instead of beating it already, I'm farming. It's just too easy (and definitely much easier than it's predecessor).
But, I don't want to talk about it... or maybe I do. I'm not sure yet.
Anyways, I just wanted to make a comaprison since a lot of people keep complaining about X-2. I will admit, it was a terrible game, but the combat system was fun and interesting. And, what do you know? The combat system in XIII & XIII-2 is awfully similar to the combat system in X-2. The difference between the two is that you can manually control everyone in X-2; while you can only control one character or the party, as a whole. Oh. And X-2 at "ultimate" formsinstead of attacks (I prefered that versus the "ultimate" attacks, that clear stagger, in XIII & XIII-2. Though, I do admit that Lightning's was a little fun to watch).
*shrugs* I'm just saying...
Now, I shall await for someone to tell me that I'm wrong (because there will always be that someone).
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02-09-2012 01:34 PM - edited 02-09-2012 01:34 PM
Did you ever use RAV/RAV/SOB? I used that Paradigm most. But, you're right about not shifting paradigms all that much. You just set to one, and keep to it, unless you're fighting a boss. That final mark in XIII was #### ridiculous!
What I don't understand is why more people prefer XIII-2 over X-2? I'm not going to lie; I enjoyed playing X-2 (and the fact that I have ovaries has nothing to do with it). It was because of the combat system. And, apparently, people are making the same argument for XIII-2. Both of them have week stories, and, yet, more people are still swaying towards XIII-2 when X-2 is clearly the superior when it comes to being fun & challenging.
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That five-slap at the end brought a tear to my eye.
You do bring up a good point. I do prefer the XIII-2 story over the X-2 story of traveling all over the place to find spheres of Tidus (or his incarnate?).
02-09-2012 04:32 PM
I really couldn't have said it better myself.
Now that I've finished XIII-2, I'd put it on par with XIII, behind IX, IV, and VII.
Noel, Serah, Caius. While I understand some people may hate how few characters were in party, and admittedly I would've liked there to have been more, I loved the main cast here. Serah's evolution from XIII to the end of XIII-2 was excellent, especially in the ending. I felt like I was watching the end to Chrono Crusade all over again, and for that show, I loved the ending there too. Noel, while he didn't develop much per se throughout the game, was one of the best characters in terms of fleshing out in probably the entire FF franchise. And Caius, oh man. I loved what SE did with him. I love twisted logic villains and he did not disappoint, right up to the very end. While Caius and Noel reek of the Cloud and Sephiroth ordeal, I still enjoyed every bit of the story.
The side stories and side characters were also great. Alyssa in Ch. 2, Hope's development (granted it wasn't much in this game, but I love how much he's grown since the beginning of XIII), Snow well...he didn't change too much aside from his hairstyle.
Gotta catch 'em all. Love it. Miniflan is also a boss.
Also, the music in this game was fantastic. I enjoyed the route the composers took to throw in more vocals to the BGM and while some may call it laziness, I really enjoyed the inclusion of several XIII tracks. I felt there were just enough for nostalgia value, but still having enough new tracks so I was never like "omg, this music AGAIN?". Despite the ridiculous amount of Cie'th, I want to just go to Academia 400AF and listen to the latin chanting orchestra over and over.
Lastly, that ending was amazing. Bring on XIII-3 SE.
Like everyone else, I agree the crystarium and level progression is pretty fudged up in this game. It would've been better if the Crystarium had been kept the same as from XIII, but instead make each role much more focused (meaning, no Magic spheres in the Commando Role, stuff like that). I also disliked how the Accessory Capacity thing was added. I think someone said it before, why have 4 accessory slots if you'll only be able to hold two decent ones at max?
Odds or Evens, Heads or Tails, Right Hand or Left Hand in the Brain Blast games. Seriously, fuuuuuudge those questions.
Square plastering Lightning everywhere then her not really being in the game at all aside from the beginning. That was BS. Let alone they ignored Sazh, but supposedly there will be some DLC focusing on that so I'm looking forward to that.
I also felt that Square really missed the mark regarding the world they created in XIII. It really was very much "convenient" for them to introduce stuff like Etro and such, and literally forgetting about half the base they used for XIII. They could have definitely weaved in the whole Etro thing with the Fal'cie, L'cie stuff. And they really did leave a lot of loose ends (Snow's L'cie mark, Alyssa, etc.), but I wonder if that was intentional to set up for DLC/XIII-3 or what.
In the end, XIII-2 is a flawed game, but it's still a really good game and I look forward to getting the other fragments and the eventual XIII-3. While Square did try to address all the concerns with XIII, they definitely overreached in a few cases and made mistakes in other areas, and while there were some tradeoffs (smaller cast, better development), overall I enjoyed this game and think it is a welcome addition to the franchise. I just hope Square takes the best from both games and makes XIII-3 a God-tier RPG.
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