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THE ELDER SCROLLS CHAPTER 5: SKYRIM

Release date: November 11, 2011

 

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Discuss the game here.

 

 

General Game info and FAQ:

 

How do shouts work?

 

Shouts are gained by finding "Word Walls" in various dungeons and around skyrim in general. These walls are not just in main story related dungeons, but in many other locations you may just simply find yourself in. Finding a word wall will give you the base shout, but before you use it you will need to absorb a dragon's soul by killing one. Once you absorb a soul, you may use the point to advance a shout of your choosing. Shouts have multiple levels you can advance.

 

Shouts do not use magicka, but are all on a cooldown timer which they all share. In other words you can't switch between them to constantly belt them out. Cooldowns vary based on how powerful the spell is. Some can be used every few seconds, and some can be used every day or so.

 

How is Third Person Mode?

 

Third person has been improved since Oblivion. The new targetting retical and better animations make it easier to tell what you are hitting. Some powers, like beast transformation, cause the player to go into third person automatically. While it's feesible to play in third person mode, it's easier to view objects lying around on the ground in first person mode. Third person mode has it's advantages in combat, as you can better see enemies surrounding you; But which point of view you decide to use is up to you most of the time.

 

Character Creation?

 

Character creation is simplified this time around. You will not pick any major and minor skills, but the race you choose will have benefits in certain skills. Each race also has active and passive abilities.

 

Astral signs are not chosen at character creation, but rather through ritual stones you may find around skyrim. You may only have one of these stones active at a time.

 

How do perks work?

 

When your character levels up (caused by raising your skills when you use them), you will gain a perk point. This point can be spent OR SAVED FOR LATER. Each skill tree has a number of 'paths' each with different perks that augment your skill in some way. Many of these perks require you to be at a certain skill level before you can take them and you will also need to take the previous perk on that path beforehand.

 

How does lockpicking work?

 

Lockpicking in Skyrim is a bit like it was in Fallout 3. Rather than the pins system that was in Oblivion; This time there is no visual cue as to when a lock will open. You are not limited to what level locks you can pick; But picking locks above your level of expertise can be incredibly difficult and you can run out of picks very quickly. Perks in this tree allow you to pick certain level locks more easily.

 

Fast Travel, Carriages, and Horses


Fast travel is back, and you can travel anywhere you have already visited. There are also carriages near all major cities that will bring you to other cities for a fee, allowing you early access to most of the cities in Skyrim. Horses are also in this game. Horses can 'sprint' just like characters, but only for a short time depending on the horse. If you leave your horse behind it will show up next time you fast travel to a certain area.

 

How Big is the Game?

 

The game is very easily as large as, if not bigger, than Oblivion. I've been playing for roughly a week and I don't think I've been to 1/5 of the locations in the game.

 

How do spells work? Is there spell making?

 

Spells are gained from buying or finding spell tomes. Spells can be 'dual casted' for a better effect if you have the right perks. There are also staves and scrolls that give you limited uses of spells. Staves grow stronger if the player is skilled in that particular perk tree/skill level.

 

There is no spell crafting in Skyrim.

 

Questing and quest logs

 

Quests are seperated into two categories. Main quests and miscellanious tasks. Misc. Tasks are usually menial tasks that can be done quickly whereas major quests are usually longer and require you to visit multiple locales. Both types of quests are easily trackable on maps and mini maps.

 

Are dungeons randomly generated?

 

No, as far as I can tell. Most dungeons have some sort of story element to them and they all appear to have specific loot. Bethesda has done a good job in making sure each location feels unique and has something special about it. If you aren't blazing through on easy mode, these can take quite some time to complete as well. Most dungeons have some sort of boss at the end and an easy 'exit' to get back to the overworld without having to trapse back through the dungeon a second time.

 

Are there companions?

 

Yes. In fact, you will be paired up A LOT during certain quests. There are also mercenaries you can hire and companions that will come to you for work. These companions can be given orders, as well.

 

Whether or not certain persistent companions have their own questlines I have yet to see. More to come on this.

 

Housing and Marriage

 

Player owned housing is back.

 

This time marriage is also in the game. I havent discovered how this works yet, and will post more about it when I do.

 

Crime and Punishment in Skyrim

 

In Skyrim your criminal activities are tracked a little differently than they were in previous games. Each city tracks  it's crime independently...so if you rack up a bounty in one city; You can still go to others without being arrested by guards.

 

When confronted by a guard you have a choice of paying your bounty, going to prison, or fighting back or running. If you sheath your sword to a guard; He may stop attacking you unless you have a HUGE bounty on your head (probably for multiple murders).

 

Going to prison becomes a quest in itself. There, you can serve your sentence or attempt to escape. These prisons are very well done and are quests in themselves...and escaping from them is actually a reason you may WANT to get arrested for.

 

Dragons?

 

Dragons are (usually) randomly ocurring boss battles that can take place almost every where outside of towns and dungeons. There are several types of dragons from what I can tell. More to come.

 

As for the difficulty of these dragons; I found that on adept difficulty they gave me some trouble but I was generally able to beat them quickly...whereas in master difficulty they killed me almost instantaneously.

 

Regardless of difficulty, it can be terrifying being 'stalked' by these creatures, as they will usually do to you before they decide to strike.

 

 

 

 

I am currently playing the game myself from a source I will not specify. Feel free to ask me stuff and I will get try to get to them accordingly. I will however specify that this is a PURCHASED xbox 360 copy and NOT a leak of any kind.

 

Please keep in mind that the game hasn't been officially released yet, so information on the wiki pages are incomplete (obviously).

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I'd call you a lucky bastid, but I'm content waiting.



Is the combat smooth? Have you encountered any bugs or anything else funky?



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Legally purchased, illegally played.

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No game breaking bugs yet...in fact, it seems really polished and I haven't even noticed a single bug thusfar.

 

Honestly I haven't been in combat too much yet...so I can't say much about it yet. I'll be doing my first dungeon crawl soon on a harder difficulty than normal; So I'll let you know what I think...but I'm a mage so I first need to see if it's at all possible to get through this without much melee.

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Awesome. Bugs are really sad.


Do you play mages in all games?



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My first characters are usually mage/thief hybrids. This will be no different.

 

 

Character creation is really quite basic compared to the other games. Basically you just choose your race and features (btw there are an impressive number of options here) and that's all. You don't pick primary skills like in the previous game...and it doesn't look like you pick an astral sign either; However I did notice the Atronach astral power available as a magic perk.

 

Since you start out with a basic spell of every school its up to you whether to use it or not...but there doesn't appear to be any 'choosing' of primary and secondary skills.

 

Also I have noticed that mage robes aren't just decorative clothing this time around...but actually have magical stats adhered to them without enchanting them first.

 

Oh, and I heard something about a Bard College; But I don't know what that entails...honestly if I tried to list everything that was happening i'd be here all night; So I'm going back to play the game now.

 

 

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GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

 

 

Oh, and I heard something about a Bard College; But I don't know what that entails...honestly if I tried to list everything that was happening i'd be here all night; So I'm going back to play the game now.

 

 



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So combat.

 

It feels okay. Keep in mind that I don't have any melee combat related perks yet...i'm guessing that's when it starts to get interesting.

 

Dual wielding is pretty cool. Tapping both triggers at once makes you do a multi-strike attack that does good damage but also drains a lot of stamina.

 

I remade my character, which is why I'm still not very far. I decided to go with more of a thief approach and just toss in some illusion and maybe restoration for good measure.

 

Another thing I am impressed by is the crafting. It's very fallout like but so far blacksmithing and alchemy seem really well done...I haven't seen an enchanting table yet, though.

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The bounty system seems somewhat improved although I have yet to run into any real guards.

 

I could be wrong; But I think this is how stuff works now.

 

Minor crimes will not gain you much noteriety. I killed a chicken in a village and recieved a bounty of 5 gold...no imperial **beast** has yet run up to be calling me criminal scum yet...

 

Apparently, you can also murder witnesses to reduce a serious bounty if you are planning a more elaborate crime.

 

There's actually an elaborate menu that details your criminal record...which is nice. So far my only offense is killing somebody's pet but we'll see how finicky the system is when I start trying to attract the Dark Brotherhood.

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Less talky, more pics.

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Wishful thinking on your part. There's plenty of leaked footage online though. Just have to look.

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WEREWOLVES are in.

 

I ran into a friendly one early on. I won't tell you who it is...but when he finally turns it's a definite WTF moment. I'm guessing you'll get to become one as well, and it's probably a power.

 

Powers, btw, in this game are secondary spells that have limited uses per day. They include things like dragon shouts and racial abilities like the dark elf anscestral ability (once per day).

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GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

WEREWOLVES are in.

 

I ran into a friendly one early on. I won't tell you who it is...but when he finally turns it's a definite WTF moment. I'm guessing you'll get to become one as well, and it's probably a power.

 

Powers, btw, in this game are secondary spells that have limited uses per day. They include things like dragon shouts and racial abilities like the dark elf anscestral ability (once per day).


YOU'RE A F*CKING LIAR

 

GOOD DAY TO YOU, SIR. I SAID GOOD DAY!

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GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

Wishful thinking on your part. There's plenty of leaked footage online though. Just have to look.


May I ask why you won't?

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HonorableCloud wrote:

GiantMegaDoucheX wrote:

Wishful thinking on your part. There's plenty of leaked footage online though. Just have to look.


May I ask why you won't?


I have no capture card and I'm playing the xbox version. So unless you're looking for amateur stills and me taking pictures of my TV with a cell phone camera then it's probably best you look elsewhere for pics.

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He speaks the truth... I've seen things.

Wonderful things.

Great and beautiful things.
I'd like to thank everyone who participated and voted for an awesome competition.

Second Place- Grave by Kohikki


Third Place- Neon Genesis Evan-DELI-on by Gaynor


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Any pics would be great. I'm pretty sure nobody really cares about quality.

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This is true.
I'd like to thank everyone who participated and voted for an awesome competition.

Second Place- Grave by Kohikki


Third Place- Neon Genesis Evan-DELI-on by Gaynor


Also Third Place- Prophet By BadWitch

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I care about quality. :mansad:



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Like I said, nobody really cares.

 

OOOOooooo

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My heart, she is wounded.



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You, sir, are a bastard.


*Slaps you with glove*


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I like how people react to magic if you cast it in town.

 

Also; I've noticed that the demographics of skyrim are really skewed...kinda like how it was in Morrowind only even more so. An overwhelming majority of the population are nord/imperial...and then theres Dark Elves...followed by Bretons, wood elves, high elves, etc.

 

I've only seen 3 or 4 Argonians and only a couple khajit. I have yet to see an orc. Keep in mind I haven't been to all the cities yet.

 

I guess this makes sense....Skyrim isn't the cultural hub Cyrodil was and I guess this makes it a little more realistic.

 

 

 

 

As for Pics; I will see what I can do tomorrow but I wont make any promises. I will see if I can get a screengrab of werewolf form or maybe some DB stuff if I can find them.

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Fought a dragon yet? How hard was it if so?
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Blah_canbespanish wrote:
Fought a dragon yet? How hard was it if so?


Depends on what kind of dragon. So far I've encountered regular ones and frost dragons.

 

Im a dark elf so im resistant to fire...so a normal dragon isn't that bad.

 

But either way they can be tricky. On expert difficulty, which is what i'm playing on, it's a pretty nasty battle...I've ran and hid a few times just to avoid them and I've only killed 2 thusfar. The frost one I ran into killed me pretty rapidly. They have the bad habit of showing up when you least expect them.

 

They're pretty cool. I suspect there are more types than just these two...

 

 

The game in general can be pretty tough. Certain dungeon end bosses really gave my thief trouble; And I actually adjusted the difficulty for one of them because it was just pwning me so **beast** hard. If you play at the default difficulty it's easier...but there are two more difficulties higher than that.

 

I can't confirm; But I think playing on high difficulty helps you level your skills faster...I dunno.

 

 

 

Also, I'm still working on getting a good werewolf picture. The problem is whenever you turn, the game goes into third person view without being able to look at yourself...surprisingly the game plays much better in third person this time around than it did in Oblivion...so werewolf form uses this mode entirely.

 

It makes getting a pic difficult though. I'll try to find another werewolf NPC.