General Music Discussion

[stevo1588]

I don't understand why it's so divisive, but that's cool.

[ShrimpSensation]

Divisive in what sense? You're the only person I've heard of who thinks its any good. I took it off my hard drive it was so bad, and I left the NEW Strokes CD.

[stevo1588]

I haven't seen too many other people putting it on their best-of lists (although I have run into a few), but if you just want to go by reviews, it got a pretty great reception from a number of writers. Paste and Consequence of Sound, for example, seemed very positive on it. Then, of course, Ian Cohen at Pitchfork wrote a really ridiculous and negative review that hardly touched on the content of the album, and I've seen a lot of arguing back-and-forth online about whether he's totally right or a complete idiot.

[ShrimpSensation]

Like some dude on the internet has a personal thing with comedian Donald Glover?

[stevo1588]

Did I imply that? I don't think I did.

[desantoos]

Seems like the lists this year have a lot more variety. There's no real consensus on what's the best album, unlike the past few years. I'm going to go through the lists in this thread and build my findings into my own list (which is only halfway done at the moment). I love threads like this.

[ShrimpSensation]

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stevo1588 wrote:
I haven't seen too many other people putting it on their best-of lists (although I have run into a few), but if you just want to go by reviews, it got a pretty great reception from a number of writers. Paste and Consequence of Sound, for example, seemed very positive on it. Then, of course, Ian Cohen at Pitchfork wrote a really ridiculous and negative review that hardly touched on the content of the album, and I've seen a lot of arguing back-and-forth online about whether he's totally right or a complete idiot.

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That'd be where ya said it.

[PostModernMartyr]

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stevo1588 wrote:
I haven't seen too many other people putting it on their best-of lists (although I have run into a few), but if you just want to go by reviews, it got a pretty great reception from a number of writers. Paste and Consequence of Sound, for example, seemed very positive on it. Then, of course, Ian Cohen at Pitchfork wrote a really ridiculous and negative review that hardly touched on the content of the album, and I've seen a lot of arguing back-and-forth online about whether he's totally right or a complete idiot.

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Ian Cohen doesn't know anything about Hip Hop... it's like some kind of cruel joke that he's in charge of it.

[ShrimpSensation]

you're a fan of "Camp"?

[PostModernMartyr]

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ShrimpSensation wrote:

you're a fan of "Camp"?

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Do you mean like Camp Lo?  Yes.   Otherwise I have no idea

Oh, now I see what you are talking about...

I haven't listened to it yet... I'm afraid to... I love Donald Glover, so I really don't want to be disappointed by his music.

But in general Ian Cohen is awful.

[CounterShock]

1. Death Grips - Exmilitary

2. Mastodon - The Hunter

3. St. Vincent - Strange Mercy

4. The Black Dahlia Murder - Ritual

5. Evenings - Lately 

6. Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will 

7. Devotchka - 100 Lovers 

8. The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Belong 

9. The Atlas Moth - An Ache for the Distance

10. TV on The Radio - Nine Types of Light

2007 album of 2011, Burial - Untrue

All in all, a pretty great year music wise.

[ShrimpSensation]

I really haven't read a p4k review since they gave Kanye a 10.0, not that MBDTF wasn't good, but come on, a ten?

And Camp Lo is actually an amazing set, I wish they still made that bubbacris check-a-shinin Ski Beatz sound.

[No_Soup_For_You]

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PostModernMartyr wrote:

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stevo1588 wrote:
I haven't seen too many other people putting it on their best-of lists (although I have run into a few), but if you just want to go by reviews, it got a pretty great reception from a number of writers. Paste and Consequence of Sound, for example, seemed very positive on it. Then, of course, Ian Cohen at Pitchfork wrote a really ridiculous and negative review that hardly touched on the content of the album, and I've seen a lot of arguing back-and-forth online about whether he's totally right or a complete idiot.

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Ian Cohen doesn't know anything about Hip Hop... it's like some kind of cruel joke that he's in charge of it.

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No one knows anything about music.......except me.

/musicphilosophyofjustabouteveryonewhowilladmitittothethemselves

[stevo1588]

I don't see where I said anything about Ian Cohen having a personal thing with Donald Glover. Have you read that review? He uses like half of it to discuss the line "the only black kid at a Sufjan concert" and spends the other half explaining how Donald Glover is unnecessary in a world that already has Kanye and Drake. Some of the points he brings up are valid, but I don't think it really constitutes a proper review of the album. I doubt he has any reason to make this a "personal" issue, but he clearly begins from a point of negativity. Hell, the first sentence in the review is "If you buy only one hip-hop album this year, I'm guessing it'll be Camp." Not only is that preemptively dismissing anyone who would dare enjoy the album as some know-nothing, it's also inaccurate in the year that produced Goblin and Watch the Throne.

Anyway, you have the right to your opinion, and so does Ian Cohen, but I thought most of the tracks were catchy as hell and I find myself coming back to it over and over.

[ramo200]

I haven't heard much albums this year but I would like to consider these albums the best of 2011:

• Doomtree - No Kings
• Senders - Lucidity/Lividity
• Tom Waits - Bad as Me
• The Black Keys - El Camino

[PostModernMartyr]

No Kings is pretty good.

[foreignlawns]

alvarius B -- baroque primitiva

dude's briliant as always

[ShrimpSensation]

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PostModernMartyr wrote:

No Kings is pretty good.

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No Kings could have been better if they made Sims walk the effing plank.

[No_Soup_For_You]

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ShrimpSensation wrote:

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Goldar wrote:
Another question, isn't Lil B the intentionally horrible rapper that somehow has garnered a fan following? I don't get that whatsoever.

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Lil B was that, and he has fans cause he like really pushes his music..like too hard..he tries to do too much most times.

Everyone knows Lil B for his narcissistic swag jams over Lex Luger sounding beats, and he DID try that. 

On I'm Gay, he mostly talked about how now that he was famous he realized he was being "fake" before, and that most everyone in the game is "fake." Of course, he still raps in his #basedfreestyle which is sort of a joke, it not being good, but I picked I'm Gay cause it has a clear message, a funny title, and shows a marked improvement in Lil B's focus.

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I mean, more power to him if he's really trying but it just sounds so bad. Like.....no flow at all,this guy makes Gucci Mane sound like he has good flow.

[ShrimpSensation]

that's because unlike most rappers, who "claim" to freestyle, but in fact read their lyrics off their blackberry, or have them memorized, Lil B actually freestyles: I Seen That Light, Unchain Me <both pretty good flows, but more importantly those Clams Casino beats with the Imogen Heap samples are on a whole 'notha shiz...

[PostModernMartyr]

Are you a Sole fan?  The track with Lil B on the most recent S&SRB album was pretty awesome...  but I think it's unfair to say most rappers don't really freestyle, more like a lot.

(There's a remix on this (optionally free) sole mixtape too)

[Texface-Killah]

i just heard Common's The Dreamer/The Believer

i dont know where i would put it on my list though... it was really good though...

[ShrimpSensation]

i have a couple friends who are really into sole, but I haven't listened to him since "Selling Live Water," but that song is dope.. is that whole mixtape w a live band?

[PostModernMartyr]

nah, the mixed tape is solo... there are three studio albums, one live album and 2 eps with the skyrider band now though, plus a remix lp.

[StevieNowicks]

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