General Music Discussion

[Explosivo_420]

i think the '08 dates are with the bands you said first

the 09 portion is with Kreator/Exodus/Belphegor/Warbringer/Epicurean (gasms)

k waiting. 

Message Edited by Explosivo_420 on 10-16-2008 12:03 AM

[inhumanrampager]

Ooh...hense why the pic didn't update....but seriously, if that's 09, then I'm totally takin that day off. F*ck work, I need to hit that one up....if only just for Kreator and Exodus.

I'll PM that.

[cold5k]

I am jealous of you. Apparently Genghis Tron hate WI. They haven't been here since April (with Converge) but I think they've been to Illinois at least **their is no 4** times. I'm too poor to drive **their is no 4** hours to go see them. They'll be back one day i suppose.

[danzigthrall]

Exodus are really annoying me. Why come back with a monster of a thrash album(tempo) only to release mediocre spiraling to abysmal groove material later? If they were consistently terrible it wouldn't be as big of an issue, look at Annihilator at least I know what to expect. But Exodus has this aura that they might do something great again only to be let down time and time again. I just heard the new re-recording of Bonded by Blood and bad doesn't even describe it.

Paul died six years ago, a tribute is rather belated. Sounds like a cash grab to me, maybe I would buy this one if they got Zetro back.

[danzigthrall]

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BarbarianCatStomper wrote:

Plus, Gorgoroth are pedophiles. My friend had to put them up for 3 days in Tijuanna and they repeatedly asked for young male prostitutes. So now I refer to them as Boygoroth.

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Bull** quack **. I can't believe no one disputed this comment.

[danzigthrall]

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ThE_GELaTiNoUS_CuBe wrote:

"post" anything is when a band takes ideas, motifs, themes, etc.  that originate in that particular genre, and go "other places" with them...you can almost replace the word "post" with "experimental" and it'll mean the same thing.

...of course, that's just my opinion.

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Wrong. 'Post' generally means 'outside the movement' which is why it is applied less often. Particularly used in Thrash and Black genres because they are synonymous with locations or time periods. While I find it to be ill-advised to call Meshuggah 'Post' anything it is referencing the conventional aspects of their songs, the thrash-esque riffage, especially earlier in their career.

Experimental would point to a lessened Avant-Garde approach, while Meshuggah dables with the odd time signature they rarely push experimental boundaries outside of the random intro or bridge.

[Nile]

Holy sh*t DT is back! And how'd you get your original SN back? Was it only temp'd or something? 

[danzigthrall]

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Nile wrote:

Holy sh*t DT is back! And how'd you get your original SN back? Was it only temp'd or something? 

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It was permanently banned. I've gotten it over turned twice before in the past though. I asked if two(three?) years was long enough for such a measly infraction. I don't even think Bast remembered why she banned me.

I don't like the new set up of this site though. Although I always favored Prospero in the first place.

[Explosivo_420]

welcome back.

[Sekiath]

Welcome back, man.

[ThE_GELaTiNoUS_CuBe]

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danzigthrall wrote:

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ThE_GELaTiNoUS_CuBe wrote:

"post" anything is when a band takes ideas, motifs, themes, etc.  that originate in that particular genre, and go "other places" with them...you can almost replace the word "post" with "experimental" and it'll mean the same thing.

...of course, that's just my opinion.

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Wrong. 'Post' generally means 'outside the movement' which is why it is applied less often. Particularly used in Thrash and Black genres because they are synonymous with locations or time periods. While I find it to be ill-advised to call Meshuggah 'Post' anything it is referencing the conventional aspects of their songs, the thrash-esque riffage, especially earlier in their career.

Experimental would point to a lessened Avant-Garde approach, while Meshuggah dables with the odd time signature they rarely push experimental boundaries outside of the random intro or bridge.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock

according to that, I'm not as wrong as you think I am.

[Conrad_820]

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cold5k wrote:
I am jealous of you. Apparently Genghis Tron hate WI. They haven't been here since April (with Converge) but I think they've been to Illinois at least **their is no 4** times. I'm too poor to drive **their is no 4** hours to go see them. They'll be back one day i suppose.

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Haha, not to be an asshat but that is where I'm actually seeing them.  At the Beat Kitchen, Chicago's best venue (imo).

[cold5k]

I knew they were coming around soon. Right now I've got no money, my birthday was last week so I barely worked. Dam me and liking to drink so much.  One day I will see them again.

[morelia]

What ever happened to The Chasm?

[BarbarianCatStomper]

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danzigthrall wrote:

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BarbarianCatStomper wrote:

Plus, Gorgoroth are pedophiles. My friend had to put them up for 3 days in Tijuanna and they repeatedly asked for young male prostitutes. So now I refer to them as Boygoroth.

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Bull** quack **. I can't believe no one disputed this comment.

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I don't see why it is so hard to believe. They are meth heads and pedophiles. End of story.

[Conrad_820]

My interpretation of "post" anything is that it means a movement building off of the roots of an older well established movement.  Lets look at the art world.  The modernist movement asked the very question of what is art in a broad sense.  It introduced us to many counter-culture movements. And we are now stuck in the post-modernist era.  This is an era where people are transitioning into the next cultural movement.  It's like a pre-chorus in a sense.  It's not quite it's own true movement but it's going in new directions.  And the same can be applied to music or any art form.

[ThE_GELaTiNoUS_CuBe]

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Conrad_820 wrote:

My interpretation of "post" anything is that it means a movement building off of the roots of an older well established movement.  Lets look at the art world.  The modernist movement asked the very question of what is art in a broad sense.  It introduced us to many counter-culture movements. And we are now stuck in the post-modernist era.  This is an era where people are transitioning into the next cultural movement.  It's like a pre-chorus in a sense.  It's not quite it's own true movement but it's going in new directions.  And the same can be applied to music or any art form.

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agreed.

[dbferret]

welcome back kotter

[danzigthrall]

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ThE_GELaTiNoUS_CuBe wrote: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock

according to that, I'm not as wrong as you think I am.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_rock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_metal

See the difference? How about this for good measure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOAHM

Try not to quote wikipedia in the future when looking to validate your opinion.

[danzigthrall]

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Conrad_820 wrote:

My interpretation of "post" anything is that it means a movement building off of the roots of an older well established movement.  Lets look at the art world.  The modernist movement asked the very question of what is art in a broad sense.  It introduced us to many counter-culture movements. And we are now stuck in the post-modernist era.  This is an era where people are transitioning into the next cultural movement.  It's like a pre-chorus in a sense.  It's not quite it's own true movement but it's going in new directions.  And the same can be applied to music or any art form.

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The problem with this comparison is the difference in terminology on a broad spectrum, a lot Metal terminology is far different from its conventional use. See previous post.

But you are also using 'era' several times in your post. Which was part of my point in the first place:

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danzigthrall wrote:

'Post' generally means 'outside the movement' which is why it is applied less often. Particularly used in Thrash and Black genres because they are synonymous with locations or time periods.

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[Mutant_Mutilator]

Anyone made any mixes for Halloween? I got bored the other day and put one together.

1. Ghoul - Psychoplasm

2. Ghoul - Ghoul Hunter

3. Death - Zombie Ritual

4. Iron Maiden - Killers

5. Engorged - ROTLD

6. Mercyful Fate - Come to the Sabbath

7. F.K.Ü. - Stomp and Shake(Crystal Lake)

8. Voltaire - BRAINS!

9. Judas Priest - Night Crawler

10. The Black Dahlia Murder - Funeral Thirst

11. Frightmare - They Were Warned

12. Megadeth - The Skull Beneath The Skin

13. Rigor Mortis - Wizard of Gore

14. Splatterhouse - Coffin Birth

15. Opeth - The Grand Conjuration

I'll probably keep adding to it as I think of things to put on it.

Edit - Aparrently bored is changed to boring, wonderful.

Message Edited by Mutant_Mutilator on 10-18-2008 01:07 PM

[danzigthrall]

For the past couple years, I have been using Sunn O)))'s 'Black One' as my soundtrack to Halloween night. It has been working pretty well in my front yard with a slow strobe and fog machine. I am thinking of doing a mix or just putting on something of Lustmord's this year. Probably 'Purifying Fire'.

Your list is seriously lacking 'Halloween II' though.

Message Edited by danzigthrall on 10-18-2008 11:12 AM

[RandomChaos]

I was thinking of using my Halo 3 soundtrack since it has some pretty freaky sounding tracks on it. Plus my neighborhood has a lot of little kids, so I think they'll be a little hesitant before they knock on the door/ring doorbell.

[clever_kamikaze]

Hahahah, Sunn O))) on halloween... That made me happy. Thanks.

[C21H22N2O2]

You probably already know I'm a big Troglodyte fan, actually I'm considering doing video-installation work based on their music for my thesis project this year, I just want to drop them a line and let them know before I really get rolling on that.