InuYasha

[helpme]

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DoomsDayDevice wrote:

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BramStoker wrote:

My only suggestion is not a perfect one by any means, but if it starts to look like the averaging won't produce a clear winner even when you take a look at it tomorrow, what about having the InuYasha board break the tie?  We could ask them to tell what they specifically liked about each story to prove that they are actually reading them, and it wouldn't be a popularity contest because the main screen names remain unknown.  It isn't ideal, but I just want to offer my two cents if there's a chance it may be of some help.

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I'd say no to that. There's always the possibility of a PM campaign, or the ability to get on alts and vote that way, but:

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NahokoUehashi wrote:

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sohadow_swordsman wrote:

Then just give your prize to the runner-up if you don't want it, but don't quit now. We'll figure something out eventually.

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Whether I win a prize and give it to the runner-up or pull out and let the prizes go directly to them, the end result is the same.  Winning isn't the point.  The point is to have fun submitting the fics, like Bram said, and enjoying the experience.  In that sense, I'm already a winner.  This was fun and I enjoyed every minute of it.  What more could I possibly ask for.

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I like that about you guys, that you did it more for the fun of writing and having other people read what you wrote than as it being  a competitive. It's quite admirable! That said, You guys made a great effort to write these, but based on the judging criteria, it's easy to score all of these to the same score (evidently!). However, just because I say, "I prefer this story to that one," doesn't mean one author is better than the other, it just means that based on my personal preference, that's what I like.

Now I'll just say that I don't want anybody dropping out. My suggestion would be to elect someone whom everyone knows is impartial, and to have that person give the extra point to one entry to break the tie, or vote on another category to score and see if we can break the tie like that.

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so we need another judge?

why not 770312 

[MegaNaraku]

You didn't think it was a failure? I haven't written much before, but thanks anyways. I am better when it comes to writing stuff like romance. But i am not so good with fanfic

[DoomsDayDevice]

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helpme wrote:

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DoomsDayDevice wrote:

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BramStoker wrote:

My only suggestion is not a perfect one by any means, but if it starts to look like the averaging won't produce a clear winner even when you take a look at it tomorrow, what about having the InuYasha board break the tie?  We could ask them to tell what they specifically liked about each story to prove that they are actually reading them, and it wouldn't be a popularity contest because the main screen names remain unknown.  It isn't ideal, but I just want to offer my two cents if there's a chance it may be of some help.

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I'd say no to that. There's always the possibility of a PM campaign, or the ability to get on alts and vote that way, but:

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NahokoUehashi wrote:

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sohadow_swordsman wrote:

Then just give your prize to the runner-up if you don't want it, but don't quit now. We'll figure something out eventually.

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Whether I win a prize and give it to the runner-up or pull out and let the prizes go directly to them, the end result is the same.  Winning isn't the point.  The point is to have fun submitting the fics, like Bram said, and enjoying the experience.  In that sense, I'm already a winner.  This was fun and I enjoyed every minute of it.  What more could I possibly ask for.

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I like that about you guys, that you did it more for the fun of writing and having other people read what you wrote than as it being  a competitive. It's quite admirable! That said, You guys made a great effort to write these, but based on the judging criteria, it's easy to score all of these to the same score (evidently!). However, just because I say, "I prefer this story to that one," doesn't mean one author is better than the other, it just means that based on my personal preference, that's what I like.

Now I'll just say that I don't want anybody dropping out. My suggestion would be to elect someone whom everyone knows is impartial, and to have that person give the extra point to one entry to break the tie, or vote on another category to score and see if we can break the tie like that.

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so we need another judge?

why not 770312 

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It's only a suggestion. I think Doxie should be the one to choose which direction this goes in. Aside from that, even if we did elect 770312 to be the tie breaker, we don't know if she's willing or able to do it.

[SonjaJade]

WAIT.  I got it.

A Star Trek-esque fight to the death between those who are tied, complete with that theme song.

[doxiedachsie]

But that fight was rigged. 

[doxiedachsie]

Okay, here's a thought.

We weight the theme.  There are two ways to do it.

1]  Let it count half as much as any other category, or

2]  Let it become a simple Yes/No and go to 1 for Yes and 0 for No.

Using 50% weight clearly breaks the tie.  The 1 vs 0 method does not.

Let's discuss this.  I won't go ahead and do it unless the agreement is unanimous.

[MegaNaraku]

[helpme]

1 yes

[doxiedachsie]

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MegaNaraku wrote:
You didn't think it was a failure? I haven't written much before, but thanks anyways. I am better when it comes to writing stuff like romance. But i am not so good with fanfic

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No.  It wasn't a failure.  Just look at the edit and tell me what you think of your "new" story. 

This just goes to prove the point that everyone should always run something by another person before sending it out, especially if it will be judged critically.

This last truism is also known as the Resume Principle, proof, proof, proof, and then have someone else review it.

Oh, and you do know you just outted yourself, right Tsugumi? 

[MegaNaraku]

Yeah makes sense. But with some words gone like vacant forest, and you just put forest, how could you picture it without the word vacant? I suppose it doesn't really matter.

and yea i outted myself, but since its all over it doesn't matter right? O.o

[doxiedachsie]

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MegaNaraku wrote:
Yeah makes sense. But with some words gone like vacant forest, and you just put forest, how could you picture it without the word vacant? I suppose it doesn't really matter.

and yea i outted myself, but since its all over it doesn't matter right? O.o

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I used the word spectral, because as the note says, vacant is a contradiction.  Think about it.  A vacant lot is empty.  It is a wide open space.  How can a forest be a wide open space?  Look up spectral in the dictionary.  Does it conjure up an image?  A ghostly, eerie, dead image?  It is just another way to describe an empty forest without getting rid of the trees that make it a forest.

The black spaces for the edit cuts are a little distracting, which is why I eventually dropped them; but try to skip over them to get a feeling for the story.  If you want, we can take it over to the writing seminar thread for a line by line analysis.  If you can answer those questions, which are specific to each point in the story, then you can reconstruct it in a different way.

That is why it is so important to let a "green" person, who has never seen your story before, proof it.  You would be surprised how many different images your words create in other people's minds that never occurred to you when you were writing.

[MegaNaraku]

Yeah I suppose so. Makes sense

[helpme]

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doxiedachsie wrote:

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MegaNaraku wrote:
You didn't think it was a failure? I haven't written much before, but thanks anyways. I am better when it comes to writing stuff like romance. But i am not so good with fanfic

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No.  It wasn't a failure.  Just look at the edit and tell me what you think of your "new" story. 

This just goes to prove the point that everyone should always run something by another person before sending it out, especially if it will be judged critically.

This last truism is also known as the Resume Principle, proof, proof, proof, and then have someone else review it.

Oh, and you do know you just outted yourself, right Tsugumi? 

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wait your meganaraku alt?

[MegaNaraku]

Whats up helpme. I don't tend to make many alts at all to be honest. I only have two which i rarely use

[alucard235]

you should know me by now I have many alts

[MegaNaraku]

Oh, I KNOW you do

[DoomsDayDevice]

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doxiedachsie wrote:

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MegaNaraku wrote:
Yeah makes sense. But with some words gone like vacant forest, and you just put forest, how could you picture it without the word vacant? I suppose it doesn't really matter.

and yea i outted myself, but since its all over it doesn't matter right? O.o

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I used the word spectral, because as the note says, vacant is a contradiction.  Think about it.  A vacant lot is empty.  It is a wide open space.  How can a forest be a wide open space?  Look up spectral in the dictionary.  Does it conjure up an image?  A ghostly, eerie, dead image?  It is just another way to describe an empty forest without getting rid of the trees that make it a forest.

The black spaces for the edit cuts are a little distracting, which is why I eventually dropped them; but try to skip over them to get a feeling for the story.  If you want, we can take it over to the writing seminar thread for a line by line analysis.  If you can answer those questions, which are specific to each point in the story, then you can reconstruct it in a different way.

That is why it is so important to let a "green" person, who has never seen your story before, proof it.  You would be surprised how many different images your words create in other people's minds that never occurred to you when you were writing.

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I think the word "desolate" might have been just as good. But yes, I don't think there can be such a thing as a vacant forest.

[DoomsDayDevice]

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doxiedachsie wrote:

Okay, here's a thought.

We weight the theme.  There are two ways to do it.

1]  Let it count half as much as any other category, or

2]  Let it become a simple Yes/No and go to 1 for Yes and 0 for No.

Using 50% weight clearly breaks the tie.  The 1 vs 0 method does not.

Let's discuss this.  I won't go ahead and do it unless the agreement is unanimous.

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i say yes to this.

[doxiedachsie]

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DoomsDayDevice wrote:

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doxiedachsie wrote:

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MegaNaraku wrote:
Yeah makes sense. But with some words gone like vacant forest, and you just put forest, how could you picture it without the word vacant? I suppose it doesn't really matter.

and yea i outted myself, but since its all over it doesn't matter right? O.o

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I used the word spectral, because as the note says, vacant is a contradiction.  Think about it.  A vacant lot is empty.  It is a wide open space.  How can a forest be a wide open space?  Look up spectral in the dictionary.  Does it conjure up an image?  A ghostly, eerie, dead image?  It is just another way to describe an empty forest without getting rid of the trees that make it a forest.

The black spaces for the edit cuts are a little distracting, which is why I eventually dropped them; but try to skip over them to get a feeling for the story.  If you want, we can take it over to the writing seminar thread for a line by line analysis.  If you can answer those questions, which are specific to each point in the story, then you can reconstruct it in a different way.

That is why it is so important to let a "green" person, who has never seen your story before, proof it.  You would be surprised how many different images your words create in other people's minds that never occurred to you when you were writing.

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I think the word "desolate" might have been just as good. But yes, I don't think there can be such a thing as a vacant forest.

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True.     I just opted for the creep factor in "spectral".

[MegaNaraku]

Words are words. Choose your own i suppose

[doxiedachsie]

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doxiedachsie wrote:

		Char	Orig	50% Theme	Grammar	Total	Rank
LoverD	Yasuhiro	3	2	1.5	3	9.5	1st
	Tsugumi	1	1	.5	1	3.5
	Nahoko	2	3	1.5	2	8.5
	Bram	2	2	1.5	2	7.5
DoxieD	Yasuhiro	2	3	1.5	2	8.5	1st
	Tsugumi	1	1	0	1	3
	Nahoko	2	3	1	2	8
	Bram	3	2	1.5	2	8.5
FieryD	Yasuhiro	3	2	1	3	9
	Tsugumi	1	1	.5	0	2.5
	Nahoko	3	3	1	2	9	1st
	Bram	2	2	1.5	3	8.5	2nd
sohadow	Yasuhiro	2	1	1.5	3	7.5
	Tsugumi	2	3	,5	2	7.5
	Nahoko	3	3	1.5	3	10.5
	Bram	3	3	1.5	3	10.5	1st
Total	Yasuhiro	10	8	5.5	11	34.5	2
	Tsugumi	5	6	1.5	4	16.5
	Nahoko	10	12	5	9	36	1
	Bram	10	9	6	10	35	1

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Okay.  New spreadsheet with Theme counting only 50% of its former value.

This is not final until everybody agrees.

[MegaNaraku]

Cool. By the looks of this it looks like Nahoko and Bram are the winners. Well, so far at least

[doxiedachsie]

Everybody has to agree with it, though.

[MegaNaraku]

Yeah, i know

[DoomsDayDevice]

Looks good, doxie.