InuYasha

[ben0119]

Thanks for the HTML tip!  I'll keep that in mind, in future instances.

Did she really? Haha wow... and here I thought I'd get lamblasted for trashing the manga's artwork, lmao.

[DoxieMoxie]

The manga's drawings were line art that was inked in afterwards by assistants.  However, all the panels were done by a single person.  Over time, as she fleshed out the character personalities, their appearance evolved.  Remember, she did this for 12 years on a tight schedule of 18 pages of panels per week.

The anime was drawn by a small army of artists that had to copy the character designer's specs and do it in full color and stop motion.  That meant they had to work out intermediate angles, etc.  They had to do thousands of drawings per week, but they had lots of people on the project.

Sunrise wasn't free to evolve the designs; but you can see differences in character appearance from episode to episode due to having different art directors at the helm.  They also had to add voices, which the manga totally lacked. 

[ben0119]

Well, that's fair enough, I suppose.  Plus, if you read the manga, you get boobies!  Bonus!  Oh, and also more gore.

I suppose it is a little unfair to compare the Anime artwork to the manga artwork.  It's just... I mean, for example, I own a few Dragonball and Dragonball Z manga chapters.  They redid them into comic book size form at the time.  Anyway, the point is, the artwork in those is excellent and perfectly matches whatever the art style was in the series at the time.  Or, I should say, the animators took the trouble to perfectly match Toriyama's evolving art style.

Then, if you see the InuYasha anime first, as most people would have, the manga art style is almost completely different, and of a lesser quality.  It was disappointing to me.  Maybe I would feel the same way about the Anime if I read the manga first... I'm not sure.  And yeah, I can't really vouch for later chapters, either.  I think the latest ones I have are the ones with Kagura's first appearance.  InuYasha's Windscar blows her top off, but in the manga, you get more than what the anime gives you, hahahahaha.

Yeah, manga does lack voices.  I tend to hear the voice actors' voices in my head when I read it. I suppose if its something that doesn't have an anime yet, or won't get one, or I haven't seen it, or whatever... I kinda' have to imagine the voices, I guess.

[DoxieMoxie]

Manga is usually black and white line art.  Anime is full color, sometimes three dimensional, moving art.

It is also true that Takahashi drew her characters like children.  Sunrise made a deliberate decision to proportion them more like adults.  It makes their shenanigans seem more proper, in a Japanese kind of way.  Takahashi, herself, evolved the character designs over the twelve years she worked on the manga. 

Of course, Sunrise had the advantage of over four years of material to look at and they went with the more evolved style of the later chapters, and then added special touches of their own.  An example of that is Sesshomaru's appearance.  He looks nothing like the manga character, except for the markings and the clothing.

[ben0119]

Yeah, that black and white can be troublesome at times.  I don't know if it's an issue with InuYasha, but sometimes when I read Bleach, what with the odd close-ups and weird creatures and weapons and whatnot, I sometimes am at a loss as to wtf I am looking at.  Color goes a long way in clearing up confusion like that.

Ah okay.  Well, that makes well enough sense.  I do have to say I definitely prefer Sesshomaru's anime appearance.  He could still be confused for a woman, but not as easily, and I think he looks more regal and mature.  Like I said though, my opinion could have been the opposite if I read the manga first.  Who knows.

We're starting to run out of stuff to talk about... Hurry up, Viz and Ocean Group!

Hm, I'm not sure how on-topic this is, but speaking of Sesshomaru, I really like the way the stuff he says can hold so much meaning and impact, and be more powerful than just the words themselves, especially as played by David Kaye.  I really like the time when he calls Totosai "old man".  I never thought anyone could be so threatening, disdainful, disrespectful and insulting, you name it, simply by calling someone an old man. As to the topic of Final Act in particular, I hope the new voice actor is able to give Sesshomaru as much gravity and power to his words!

[DoxieMoxie]

Inuyasha does the same thing as Sesshomaru.  He insults people by calling them: "old man", "old hag", "wench", etc.  He does it so often, though, that it loses its impact from overuse.

[ben0119]

Yeah, Inuyasha definitely overuses his insults.  That "old man" by Sesshomaru was (and I hate to use this because its impact has been degraded thanks to internet kiddies) epic, though.

[InuFan05]

Here's the question that I said I'd ask in the Shippo thread: if Kagome and Inuyasha weren't sealed off from each other (for long, at least), what would have happened instead? Naturally, she'd still visit her friends, but would she and Inuyasha have married sooner, or would they still have waited until after she completed her schooling? Moreover, if Kagome had never fallen through the well, what would have happened to her? Would she have gone to college, like her friends? And this brings up another question: why didn't Kagome say she would go to college when she graduated? Did she expect to return to Inuyasha, or did she just not plan on it or not get admitted (they took tests for that, right?)?

[DoxieMoxie]

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InuFan05 wrote:
Here's the question that I said I'd ask in the Shippo thread: if Kagome and Inuyasha weren't sealed off from each other (for long, at least), what would have happened instead? Naturally, she'd still visit her friends, but would she and Inuyasha have married sooner, or would they still have waited until after she completed her schooling? Moreover, if Kagome had never fallen through the well, what would have happened to her? Would she have gone to college, like her friends? And this brings up another question: why didn't Kagome say she would go to college when she graduated? Did she expect to return to Inuyasha, or did she just not plan on it or not get admitted (they took tests for that, right?)?

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If I recall correctly, only two of Kagome's friends said they were going to college.  So Kagome would be free to pursue a career after completing high school or to continue courtship with a young man and ultimately marry him at about 22 years old.

Kagome would have probably continued some kind of relationship with Inuyasha.  He would probably have been adopted into her family and may even have moved into her house to work on the shrine until she finished high school.  Such adoptions are not uncommon in Japan.

We know that Kagome saw school as an obligation to be fulfilled.  Once she finished high school and diligently executed her duty, I doubt that she would have wanted to go any further.  I'd like to think that her exposure to Kaede would have prompted her to pursue life as a priestess at her shrine.  Sota seems to have no inclination to go that route and she would be the logical choice to become shrine keeper.

I daresay that if Inuyasha had moved forward in time, they would have married later rather than sooner since modern mores would create a scandal if she married before the age of 22.  However, Inuyasha demonstrated time after time that he can't adapt to the 20th century.  He can barely adapt to the 16th century. 

In the story, as long as her loyalties were divided between her obligation to her family and her love for Inuyasha, Kagome couldn't get the well to work.  Once she had completed her duty to graduate, all she had left was her desire to see Inuyasha again.  That gave her the power to open the well.

The question remains open in my mind whether she can control the well or if it was a one-way trip.

[InuFan05]

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DoxieMoxie wrote:

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InuFan05 wrote:
Here's the question that I said I'd ask in the Shippo thread: if Kagome and Inuyasha weren't sealed off from each other (for long, at least), what would have happened instead? Naturally, she'd still visit her friends, but would she and Inuyasha have married sooner, or would they still have waited until after she completed her schooling? Moreover, if Kagome had never fallen through the well, what would have happened to her? Would she have gone to college, like her friends? And this brings up another question: why didn't Kagome say she would go to college when she graduated? Did she expect to return to Inuyasha, or did she just not plan on it or not get admitted (they took tests for that, right?)?

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If I recall correctly, only two of Kagome's friends said they were going to college.  So Kagome would be free to pursue a career after completing high school or to continue courtship with a young man and ultimately marry him at about 22 years old.

Kagome would have probably continued some kind of relationship with Inuyasha.  He would probably have been adopted into her family and may even have moved into her house to work on the shrine until she finished high school.  Such adoptions are not uncommon in Japan.

We know that Kagome saw school as an obligation to be fulfilled.  Once she finished high school and diligently executed her duty, I doubt that she would have wanted to go any further.  I'd like to think that her exposure to Kaede would have prompted her to pursue life as a priestess at her shrine.  Sota seems to have no inclination to go that route and she would be the logical choice to become shrine keeper.

I daresay that if Inuyasha had moved forward in time, they would have married later rather than sooner since modern mores would create a scandal if she married before the age of 22.  However, Inuyasha demonstrated time after time that he can't adapt to the 20th century.  He can barely adapt to the 16th century. 

In the story, as long as her loyalties were divided between her obligation to her family and her love for Inuyasha, Kagome couldn't get the well to work.  Once she had completed her duty to graduate, all she had left was her desire to see Inuyasha again.  That gave her the power to open the well.

The question remains open in my mind whether she can control the well or if it was a one-way trip.

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That's a good answer! Thanks!

I'd like to think that the well was under her control. First off, if she could open it to leave, it would make sense that the same emotions would allow her to open it again, if needed. Moreover, it was with the feeling of love that she opened the well; she wanted to be with Inuyasha. Her love for her family back in the modern era would definitely allow her reopen it. I think that so long as her mind was clear and filled with positivity and love- as cheesy as it is- she could get it to work. I feel that she merely preferred to live in the Feudal Era, since she and Inuyasha would fit in there better and their friends were there as well. Besides, weren't they able to pass through without shards, as long as they felt the need/desire to travel through the well? Another thing is that if it were sealed off, there would have been additional cues/clues to support that. Since it isn't much elaborated upon, I think it's a same assumption. Either way, I just can't stand the thought of the well being sealed off; it would be sad if she can't see her family anymore.

[DoxieMoxie]

I like to think she can control the well, too.

She is immensely powerful and her power seems rooted in her belief.  She believes in Inuyasha and he always seems much stronger in her presence.  I think it is that subtle power manifesting itself through him.  If she can do that, she can reopen the well.

The only reason she wouldn't is because she has decided to stay with Inuyasha and her friends in the feudal era.  And the only thing I can think of that would make her want to go back is to show her mom the new baby. 

[InuFan05]

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DoxieMoxie wrote:

She is immensely powerful and her power seems rooted in her belief.  She believes in Inuyasha and he always seems much stronger in her presence.  I think it is that subtle power manifesting itself through him.  If she can do that, she can reopen the well.

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That's also another thing. Over her year-long adventure, she's honed her powers, so she's definitely much stronger when it comes to handling these things as is (especially when Magatsuhi goes bye-bye). When she returns and takes up training, she'll definitely increase her skills and power even more.

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The only reason she wouldn't is because she has decided to stay with Inuyasha and her friends in the feudal era.  And the only thing I can think of that would make her want to go back is to show her mom the new baby. 

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Honestly, I can't think of any reason why the well wouldn't work. It's kind of like "innocent until proven guilty" (although they're two totally different concepts); you have to prove why it wouldn't work in order to have an argument, not why it would work.

And just as long as the baby isn't named Blue Ivy, right? (remember that convo? ) But I genuinely do think that Inuyasha and Kagome would like to see their family anyways. They mean a lot to him as well... But yeah... Mama Higurashi would just go crazy when seeing her grandbaby! Aww!

[DoxieMoxie]

Inuyasha's relationship with Kagome's mother and brother was rather close; but he and Grandpa had quite a few issues with each other.  They were the closest thing to real family he has ever known.

[InuFan05]

Yeah. He was like a son to her and brother to him. I think, though, that even he and Jii-chan were close in their own weird way. They didn't immediately hit it off, but they did accept one another and get along, minus their chaotic episodes... Breaking "demonic" vase, anyone?

[DoxieMoxie]

AKA, Sango's scent beads and the hibachi mackarel burning.  Once Grandpa learned to attack the nose, poor Inu was done for. 

[Blackheart92]

Do you know when the final act is gonna start

[doxiedachsie]

There hasn't been any announcement regarding a broadcast yet.  The subtitled Japanese episodes are on hulu.com.  The link to that is in the announcement at the top of the board page.

[InuFan05]

Poor Inuyasha! He's only trying to look for Kagome, and he ends up suffocating.

[InuFan05]

And we know for sure that the DVD/BluRay release will be at some point in the fall, although it's unspecified.

[DoxieMoxie]

My gut feeling is for sometime in late November, just in time for the Christmas shopping season.

[InuFan05]

Holiday discounts maybe?

And that would give enough time for the tv release to get people interested in buying...

[DoxieMoxie]

Maybe not, unless the vendor took it upon themselves to offer one.

[InuFan05]

[DoxieMoxie]

I still think that a TV release is the best advertising for the discs that there can be; but I'm starting to wonder if the executives are having second thoughts based on the first couple of episodes.  Those two were like a train wreck, especially the first one.  There were so many parallel plot lines running that it would be impossible for someone who hadn't read the manga already to follow the action.

[InuFan05]

In general, TFA was a trainwreck since it crammed everything into 26 episodes... It was good, but was too rushed and jumbled.