08-04-2012 04:45 PM
So the past few months, people on Twitter have gotten on about me for my love for InuYasha. Many say it's objectively bad, like if read about Twilight (Which is apparently objectively bad-I can't comment as I haven't tried the books or films), then you'll understand why it's objectively bad.![]()
So what do you think? Is our favorite half-demon show with perverted monks, weird foxes, demon slayers, and a time-travelling girl objectively bad?
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08-04-2012 04:49 PM
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08-04-2012 04:54 PM
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08-04-2012 04:54 PM
I LIKE IT NEVER HAD I WATCHED TWILIGHT SO I CAN'T COMPARE BUT IF I WERE TO SAY I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPARISONS BUT
INUYASHA IS THE SHETS PLUS IN A WAY YOU LEARN ABOUT JAPANESE CULTURES AND DIFFERENT METAPHORES
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08-04-2012 05:06 PM
TheBigOFan72 wrote:
So the past few months, people on Twitter have gotten on about me for my love for InuYasha. Many say it's objectively bad, like if read about Twilight (Which is apparently objectively bad-I can't comment as I haven't tried the books or films), then you'll understand why it's objectively bad.
So what do you think? Is our favorite half-demon show with perverted monks, weird foxes, demon slayers, and a time-travelling girl objectively bad?
Takahashi did something special with Inuyasha. She took every element of true myth and legend and mixed it all up into an entertaining "children's" fairy tale. However, she turned several of those idioms on their heads, just to be a little different. That makes Inuyasha objectively bad like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings is objectively bad.
The Twilight Saga is a pale copy that only seems to work very well for over-hormoned pre-teens.
The difference is in the quality of the writing. The plots are just variations of stories that have been told and re-told for millenia. Just look through the first 5 or 6 pages of the First Timers thread to see what I mean. Even better, read this. Then you will understand what I mean.
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08-04-2012 07:36 PM
There are things in the world that are objectively bad. Twilight isn't one of them, even though I don't much care for it, and neither is InuYasha.
I wouldn't say I watch a ton of anime, but I'd say I've seen a good amount of it. I feel I can confidently say that InuYasha is not, by any means, in the lower percentile of total anime in terms of quality. It has good characters, an engaging story (overall and for the individual characters), and the comic relief is solid. Sure, in the series, there is a LOT of filler. Perhaps detrimentally so. But they're perfectly fine episodes.
Long story short, InuYasha isn't bad. Some people, maybe a lot of people, don't like it, but it isn't a matter of objectivity.
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08-04-2012 08:13 PM
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08-04-2012 09:45 PM
No, I don't think it is either. It tells its story competently in entertaining fashion with good characters and character dynamics. Mix that with comedy, action, drama, romance, etc and it makes for a pleasant experience. It has its flaws of course, but objectively bad? Naw.
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08-04-2012 09:52 PM
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08-04-2012 09:56 PM
megasamurai wrote:
Everything has something that someone can perceive as a flaw. Some people see something as virtue that others would see as a flaw. People perceiving a flaw does not prove that the show is bad for this reason
Oh I agree! So....?
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08-04-2012 10:04 PM
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Everything has something that someone can perceive as a flaw. Some people see something as virtue that others would see as a flaw. People perceiving a flaw does not prove that the show is bad for this reason
But this is a definition of unobjective. To say something is objectively bad is to have a universally accepted standard against which it can be measured. Unless someone can produce such a universally accepted standard, they can't claim anything as objective.
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08-04-2012 10:07 PM
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08-04-2012 10:13 PM
Inuyasha is an agonizing bad anime, that could have been condesned into about 45 to 50 episodes, the characters are nice but steriotypcial, the music is fine if not decen, and the villian is just pointless, in fact Inuyasha is so bad that ITS ACTUALLY FUN TO WATCH!
but its still a better show that Twilight!
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08-04-2012 10:13 PM
Exactly.
It may be subjectively bad; but that is only a matter of opinion.
That's why Nielson makes the big bucks measuring how many people subjectively watch TV.
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08-05-2012 02:07 AM
That's THEIR opinion, an opinion which we do not all share.
But, to answer your question, no, I don't think it's 'objectively bad.' But, then again, that's just MY opinion.
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08-06-2012 11:25 AM - edited 08-06-2012 11:26 AM
As some have stated that's had hard thing to make a definitive statement on. I mean the closest you'd get to an answer would be trying to look at reviews from major websites and see how they scored it. If the sites are doing what they are suppose to be doing that'd probably be your best barometer of whether objectively it's thought of as bad.
There are probably a few, very general statements I can make, but these wouldn't be completely objective. Looking first at the production values side. So just trying to judge the product without trying to be swayed personally you could probably say the show started out with ok animation and by the time it finished it was good to maybe even very good for specific moments or episodes. The music you could probably say is above average to good, maybe again very good depending, despite 167 episodes where some songs can tire. Japanese voice acting is of high quality, English is... fine.
Now onto content. Overall story premise is fine. I mean it's not GitS SAC, but it's also not Girls Bravo. It has a decent hook to give characters motivation and has enough parts to it to help support the long run, but it does move slowly taking too long to get things done at times. Dialog can be a bit drawn out as well and... corny, but it's not bad. Characters has to be the hardest, I would classify them as ok to good. They are also slow moving at times, taking a long time to develop and Kagome probably would be described as "annoying" more than you'd want in a show. They do have genuinely good moments and are compelling enough to want to see there stories. Again Kagome, despite being a lead, is probably the most hollow character whose actions seem like they are forced on her at times. The show manages to mix drama, romance, comedy and action well enough too. Also I don't know if this should be taken into account, but I mean it's a Takahashi show so... you kind of know what you're getting when you look at it.
I tried to be objective, but than again key word is "tried" so take tha as you will and it's also been way too long since I last saw it to really say all of this, haha. Bluntly though, no, it's not a "bad" show.
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08-06-2012 11:31 AM
mention Twilight and Inuyasha in the same sentence and see what their remark is
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08-06-2012 04:05 PM
megasamurai wrote:
I'm really offended by having Inuyasha compared to Twilight. Inuyasha seems to have a much better ability to appeal to multiple age and gender demographics.
and now you know the feeling of every vampire fan out there
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08-06-2012 04:52 PM
I remember when Barnabas Collins first hit the airwaves. That's going way back.
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08-06-2012 07:52 PM
megasamurai wrote:
I'm really offended by having Inuyasha compared to Twilight. Inuyasha seems to have a much better ability to appeal to multiple age and gender demographics.
It IS similar though. Anyone who's familiar with both series can't deny that. Major difference: Kagome is far more worth the trouble everyone's put through than Bella.
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08-14-2012 06:15 PM
Its just an opinion.
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