InuYasha

[helpme]

.............must be my blocker again

[Zarisxune]

The second one doesn't work for me either.

[HardcoreHunter]

What about now

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[DoxieMoxie]

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helpme wrote:

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LoverDemon wrote:

Even earlier in the manga, I found it somewhat difficult to find them similar, the hair and there faces were really didn't see much of a heavy resemblance.

Kikyo Before Resurrection  Good

Kikyo After Resurrection  bad

Kagome In The Beginning good

Kagome A Little Later On good

Some changes, but I still don't see it, but I think the biggest issue was Takakashi's drawing, in the beginning she really couldn't agree on the right look for anyone really, took her a while before they start to look exactly like they did inside the anime.

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you have a link thats bad 403 thats what it says

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 Fixed

[HardcoreHunter]

Man kagome went heavy on the hooker makeup in the manga.

[Zarisxune]

The second picture isn't there at all on my screen....ill try internet explorer.

Update: Nope doesn't work on that either.

[Zarisxune]

A different error message saying "hosted on zerochan.net"

[DoxieMoxie]

Most of the differences have to do with expression rather than face shape.  Kagome's eyes are always open wider than Kikyo's, generally a marker of innocence and good nature.  They are also drawn rounder, which is usually a marker of youth.  I've noticed that the younger a character is supposed to be, the larger their pupils in relation to their eyes; and really old characters, like Kaede, Myoga, and Totosai, generally have very tiny pupils.

Of course, the pupils of younger characters can shrink to signify surprise, fear, and a few other emotions; but they are large when the character is relaxed.

[HardcoreHunter]

IDK I am able to see them no prob. I got the images off of google. The link that I checked is called forevergeek or something like that. Here it is again.

I will just upload it to photobucket

[DoxieMoxie]

zerochan doesn't accept third party hot links.

[Zarisxune]

Thanks.

[HardcoreHunter]

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DoxieMoxie wrote:

zerochan doesn't accept third party hot links.

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Then how can I see it on google and when I click the link I can see it D:

Either way I uploaded the image to photobucket.

[DoxieMoxie]

I did the same thing.

[DoxieMoxie]

Because google used the share link they provide.  I was able to get it by cutting and pasting it as a direct link instead of a clickable reference.

[LoverDemon]

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HardcoreHunter wrote:

Man kagome went heavy on the hooker makeup in the manga.

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All the women in InuYasha do, except Kikyo. Sango especially, even in the manga.

It's customary for the time and place, and it's not that bad, only eyeliner and lipstick which is basic makeup that every girl wears. Hers and Sangos are tame enough to still be refining.

Make up in the Manga I think was just Takahashi's way of making Kagome look a little older, since in the mange everyone she looks like she's 12-13, same with Inuyasha.

In the anime, they took the make-up away and just made her look older.

[LoverDemon]

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DoxieMoxie wrote:

Most of the differences have to do with expression rather than face shape.  Kagome's eyes are always open wider than Kikyo's, generally a marker of innocence and good nature.  They are also drawn rounder, which is usually a marker of youth.  I've noticed that the younger a character is supposed to be, the larger their pupils in relation to their eyes; and really old characters, like Kaede, Myoga, and Totosai, generally have very tiny pupils.

Of course, the pupils of younger characters can shrink to signify surprise, fear, and a few other emotions; but they are large when the character is relaxed.

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Big Eyes = Good/Innocent

Smaller Eyes = Wise

Slanted/Squinted Eyes = Evil/Shifty.

[DoxieMoxie]

The size of the pupil relative to the white of the eye also seems to indicate age. The older a character is, the smaller the pupil.

[HardcoreHunter]

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LoverDemon wrote:

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HardcoreHunter wrote:

Man kagome went heavy on the hooker makeup in the manga.

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All the women in InuYasha do, except Kikyo. Sango especially, even in the manga.

It's customary for the time and place, and it's not that bad, only eyeliner and lipstick which is basic makeup that every girl wears. Hers and Sangos are tame enough to still be refining.

Make up in the Manga I think was just Takahashi's way of making Kagome look a little older, since in the mange everyone she looks like she's 12-13, same with Inuyasha.

In the anime, they took the make-up away and just made her look older.

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Kikyo - Ah what are you doing to your face!

Kagome - Guy's really like it when you glob it on. Makes it extra sexy.

Kikyo - Gah no they don't!

Kagome - Of course they do! In fact I need more!!! *smears lipstick on her teeth and face*

Kikyo - Stop It!

Kagome -  I mean look at the facts I got your man and according to everyone we look the same. Case I win   *smiles with makeup all over her teeth*

Kikyo -

[LoverDemon]

Should be pointed out. Kikyo has worn make up before, when she was alive.  

[DoxieMoxie]

I sometimes wonder if that was supposed to be makeup, rather than some idealized concept of beauty.  When Japanese women put on old fashoined makeup (Heian and feudal era), they generally make their faces completely white and then paint lip color on their lower lip (for the young maiko, as opposed to the full geisha).  Takahashi's girls are rosy and glowing.  This would imply a natural coloration rather than makeup.

[LoverDemon]

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DoxieMoxie wrote:

I sometimes wonder if that was supposed to be makeup, rather than some idealized concept of beauty.  When Japanese women put on old fashoined makeup (Heian and feudal era), they generally make their faces completely white and then paint lip color on their lower lip (for the young maiko, as opposed to the full geisha).  Takahashi's girls are rosy and glowing.  This would imply a natural coloration rather than makeup.

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Looking at Kagome's lips, you might be right, those could be the normal colorof natural lips. Sango is the same way.

It wouldn't surprise me if Takahashi was going for a natural beauty look. Considering who Takahashi is.

[DoxieMoxie]

I also added a Lower lip link in edit on my post.  It seems that the Japanese considered small lips sexy.  All it goes to prove is that we should always be careful about trying to apply our standards of anything to a different culture.

(And that new smiley icon creeps me out for some reason.)

[LoverDemon]

True, true. Cultural conflicts happen so much.

I might be mistaken, but isn't Takahashi and admitted feminist? That might explain the way that they were drawn also. 

[DoxieMoxie]

I don't know if she is a feminist in the way we have feminists.  The culture of the geisha goes back over 1,000 years in Japan and is a strongly matriarchal culture where women hold all the power.  And contrary to Western misconceptions, geisha were not and are not prostitutes.  They are entertainers, pure and simple.  They are the ancient Japanese version of Hollywood and Broadway all rolled up together.  Like Jessica Rabbit said: "I'm not bad.  I'm just drawn that way."

But I do think that Takahashi believes that women have a natural beauty that comes from their souls and shows through on their faces.  That rosy color on the cheeks and even the hints of blue on the eyelids are probably symbolic of character features in the souls of the the persons they represent.  Just look at all the unusual looks the soul reapers have in Bleach.  It may go back to Kabuki theater (which I understand started with the geisha) and even Noh.  The makeup and features of the masks are part of a code like eye shape and size is.  They are meant to tell us something about the character in the story.

[sohadow_swordsman]

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HardcoreHunter wrote:

Am I the only one who thought that they didn't look at all alike?

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I'm sure someone's already said this, BUT: In the anime, they don't look a like at all, but in the manga, they could pass as twins. I don't know why that is, but...that's the way it is... >~>