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I notice that whenever I read anyone from Mr. Show doing an interview, there's a certain set of ideas about what comedy should be that keep popping up. An example is that I've heard the idea that "I hate parodies" pop up again and again. Do you guys have some sort of official comedy mantra? Or do you just all have similar senses of humor?

Also (assuming you're allowed to answer this), figuring that AS has some variety in terms of humor, what shows on AS work for you? Which ones don't?

edit: oh yeah and Moral Orel rocks and Mr. Show blahblahblah you've heard it

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What's the MORAL of the story?

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Dino! Great show man, I really enjoy it. I have a quick question: whats the name of that song that plays in the episode where Orel gets the... *ahem* piercing. Something about a tongue being in one's mouth. Anyhow, keep up the good work man; we fans all appreciate your work. Take care.
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How hard is it to come up with original ideas for each episode? It seems that this would be a hard show to write, especially keeping it fresh and original.
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What proof was that milk?
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Nice idea. This is one of those nice things that the boards should be for.

How long were you guys working on Orel before it made it to air. I mean, how long did it take you to come up with the plot, the characters, the design, the townfolk, etc
So now I've been a member of the ASMB for 9 years.
What in the world was I thinking back then?.
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Hey dude, love the show.

My question is (sorry if this was answered, I haven't had time to read the thread yet): How much bastardization happened to God's Chef? Where there any really smexy bits that were cut out?

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Dino, my man. Love your stuff.

Anywho...

What exactly is going on in the study? Sodomy? is it up to us to decide?

Who is Shapeys real dad?

Thanks for your time buddy.
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holy moly and wowzers.
i love the stop-action action, man.
thanks for this opportunity to ask ya stuff.

why did you decide to use the clay?
(i have alot of questions.. :smileytongue:)
what is the name of the wheelchair fairy-thing at the very end credits?
(is she your creation?)
do you have alot (and i mean TONS) of fun working on the show?
have you ever crumpled a character in your fist.. feeling like god?
whats the weirdest thing anyone's ever asked you about MO?
how difficult is it to do orel at the very end, making his own stop-action jebus trysts?
>>
have you ever made ... clayporn with the characters?
(HEY HEY! someone was gonna ask eventually)
:robotvery-happy:

personal question (you dont have to answer, but im curious):
do you believe in god?

i would give you kudos for Mr. Show..
but ive never seen it.
i do, however, dig moral orel.
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duzitickle wrote:

have you ever made ... clayporn with the characters?
(HEY HEY! someone was gonna ask eventually


eventually i woulda.
so yea um dinosta...bout that clay porn...
i'd like 2request a scene w/scrapyard & moral's dad,
in the study w/10 pillows. moral's dad is hot, is he or any of
the other characters molded after real ppl?
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“The contrast of Moral's genuine will to be a good person and the fact that he messes it up every time because he listens to what other people tell him he has to do to be good and not himself makes him and the show really interesting...and hilarity ensue. “

Kind of a confusing sentence, but thank you. Also, his name is Orel.


“Anyway, my favorite so far is The Blessed Union.
I get a kick out of the fact that the nicest person in town is the one who doesn't go to church.”

Yeah, I think that episode turned out great. There are sweet moments that hint at things to come.


“Hey, Well for one question. Who is shapeys real father? Coach Stopframe?”

Patience, patience… Enjoy the ride. Anyway, the question isn’t really “Who?” for me, it’s “Why?”


“First off, Dino I love you... “

Gulp.


“Ok, question..., what sort of things influenced you and motivated you to make Moral Orel... was it just observations or actual personal experiences?”

A little bit of both. I answered some of this and other questions in my Adult Swim Interview on the MORAL OREL page, so I’ll try not to repeat myself. I was always fascinated by religion. Fascinated and scared. My bedroom wall had a fairly realistic icon of the Crucifixion that freaked me out my whole childhood. I was always a little afraid to go to bed. I still have nightmares about it. So, my own personal experience growing up Greek Orthodox, combined with the state of the country today with the Religious Right really inspired me to write something other that comedy just for the sake of being funny.


“I notice that whenever I read anyone from Mr. Show doing an interview, there's a certain set of ideas about what comedy should be that keep popping up. An example is that I've heard the idea that "I hate parodies" pop up again and again. Do you guys have some sort of official comedy mantra? Or do you just all have similar senses of humor?”

Just similar senses of humor. Parody is easy and cheap. This show is not a parody. It definitely is inspired by other works, but I don’t believe you need to know the other works to enjoy Moral Orel. Davy and Goliath’s storylines and characters are nothing like Moral Orel’s. Davy’s characters are actually good, righteous people. Most of Moral Orel’s secondary character’s are very flawed individuals.

Anyway, I had to write a lot of parodies in my past, and have grown to find them tedious exercises in nerdy reference-making, and I think most of the peers that I respect, agree.


“Also (assuming you're allowed to answer this), figuring that AS has some variety in terms of humor, what shows on AS work for you? Which ones don't?”

Oh, I’m allowed. Understand this is personal opinion. I think all the shows have value as long as they have a fanbase, but for me: I enjoy ATHF, TGTTM and Home Movies. I really don’t have cable, so I’m sure I’d like others. I never really responded to Metalocalypse, Minoriteam or Robot Chicken. It’s not that their not good, it’s just that those shows are not my sensibility. Obviously Metalocalypse and RC work because they’re very popular. They just don’t work for me. The former is too fast and confusing. I feel very old watching it. And I was never in to Metal. That latter is mostly parody, so it holds no interest for me.


“ whats the name of that song that plays in the episode where Orel gets the... *ahem* piercing. Something about a tongue being in one's mouth”

Answered that in my [as] interview, but I’ll do it again because I love the band. It’s called “Other People’s Tongues” and it’s performed by “The Dan Emery Mystery Band.” Dan is great. Nicest guy I know. You can get it on itunes for 99 cents, but get the whole album. It’s very special.


“How hard is it to come up with original ideas for each episode? It seems that this would be a hard show to write, especially keeping it fresh and original.”

If I kept going down the road of the first season, it would be very difficult. But, now, since we’ve established characters it’s a lot of fun and the possibilities are endless. The show, if it gets into seasons 3 and 4, will probably move away from such a religion-centric place and become more about the psychologies of the people of Moralton. Any situation you’ve seen before can have a new twist if the characters are three dimensional. That’s what our goal is. To make these character’s go from their present state, to real people.

I always felt that the first few seasons of the Simpson’s portrayed characters that were the most real people on TV. Now that’s not saying much, but I certainly felt more empathy for Homer than I did for Jerry Seinfeld. That’s what I want to eventually get to with M.O.


“1: Who is Orel? Is he a representation of your childhood? Or just a summation of the typical American boy? I guess the real question is what jaded you towards christianity? Your own experiences or just what you have seen lately in the world?”

Orel is a little bit of me. Actually, every character is probably a little bit of me, but I was very religious as a pre-teen, and a little self-righteous. Orel is a much better person than I ever was. It’s funny, I feel that seeing the character come alive in the production of the first season, I’ve grown to have more respect for his Faith. I think season 2 will reflect that. It’s not Faith that’s bad, it’s the misuse of it.


“2: (im sry but i have to ask) how much did you have to drink that one day at the con? I mean hoe did the rest of the day go down for you?”

I don’t really remember.


“What proof was that milk?”

I think it was written on the carton. Freeze frame, pal.


“How long were you guys working on Orel before it made it to air. I mean, how long did it take you to come up with the plot, the characters, the design, the townfolk, etc.”

Read my [as] interview for the first part of this answer. But once I decided to rewrite an already existing script, and make it about a little religious boy, everything came together very quickly for me. This is one of the clearest ideas I ever had, and it’s getting clearer every day. After about 2 days of coming up with the characters of the town, I started pitching it around L.A. and got very good responses. Comedy Central offered me I pilot, but I met with Nick Weidenfeld at [as] and he seemed like a real and sincere guy. He liked the idea and promised to make it a series. He’s a man of his word.


“My question is (sorry if this was answered, I haven't had time to read the thread yet): How much bastardization happened to God's Chef? Where there any really smexy bits that were cut out?”

Yes, there was one kind of…smexy bit. We actually had a shot where you could see Orel climb under the woman’s cover’s with the pastry bad. We’ll include it on the DVD that is tentatively scheduled for Feb or March of 2007. But it wasn’t a bad cut at all. I felt you still got the point, and it made it seem like we had some restraint as producers.


“What exactly is going on in the study? Sodomy? is it up to us to decide?”

Told you I’d answer this again. No! No, Sodomy. Just good ol’ American spanking. As soon as we started animating the study scenes, the question came up immediately. That’s why we try to show the belt in Clay’s hands as much as possible. Turns out Orel rubbing his butt can have several interpretations.


“why did you decide to use the clay?”

We don’t. Clay is only used to make the mold of the original sculpts of the characters. The heads are some sort of hard plastic-like material and the bodies are made up of a wire armature covered in foam flesh. Their clothes are real, miniature fabric. Their eyebrows and eyelids are clay, though, and that justifies some of the characters’ names that are clay references. Originally I thought it would be all done with soft clay, but I liked this medium better. I was too lazy to change all the names, so hence the confusion.


“what is the name of the wheelchair fairy-thing at the very end credits
(is she your creation?)”

Yes, I actually animated that. My Production company is called “Fragical Productions” so the symbol is a faerie with a broken leg on a wheel chair. Get it? Fragile and magical. That word came from a song my daughter made up about me when she was four. She sang: “My daddy is very fragical, please touch him gently.” That’s her saying “Hello/Goodbye” in the animation. She also does the voice of Shapey. She’s six now. Almost seven. Yes, her name is really Tigger, but it’s really her middle name. That’s all we call her, though.


“do you have alot (and i mean TONS) of fun working on the show?”

Yes.


“have you ever crumpled a character in your fist.. feeling like god?”

No.


“whats the weirdest thing anyone's ever asked you about MO?”

Probably “have you ever crumpled a character in your fist.. feeling like god?”


“how difficult is it to do orel at the very end, making his own stop-action jebus trysts?”

Not that difficult because it’s suppose dto look bad. Scott, Jay and I do those animations. We usually do a couple a day.


“have you ever made ... clayporn with the characters?
(HEY HEY! someone was gonna ask eventually)”

And it had to be you, didn’t it? No.


“personal question (you dont have to answer, but im curious):
do you believe in god?”

I believe that it’s not as important to believe in God as it is to follow the real messages in most religions without bastardizing them. I don’t think God cares who believes in God. We should give her more credit than that.


“i would give you kudos for Mr. Show..
but ive never seen it.
i do, however, dig moral orel.”

Thanks.


“Concerning the episode "The Lord's Greatest Gift", was they're a specific reason Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451 & How Stella Got Her Groove Back were among the books the librarian was going to burn?”

‘Fahrenheit 451’ is obvious. It’s a book about condemning the idea of book-burning and forced-ignorance.

‘Burning Animal Farm’ is about ignorance. She probably never read the book, but felt that it was dirty because it was about animals.

‘Stella’ was just a non sequitor.


“Was the intent to have the characters' names are a reference to the animation style, or the medium used to create the objects on screen or was that an odd coincidence?”

I hate naming characters, so this was the easiest way to do it. Rest of the answer: see above.


"Another question, I can't think of the name of the episode (I think it's God's Chef or something to that effect), but why is it that when the women of Moralton ended up pregnant, none of the couples wanted to admit that they've done anything to get pregnant. In the papers it was read that some of these MARRIED couples didn't even sleep in the same bed. If the Bible states to be fruitful and multiply and that a man and a woman should only share a bed while married (I think that), then why are they ashamed to say that they are having a baby?"

Good point. This brings up the fact that Moral Orel isn’t simply about religion. It’s about Americana and the coldness and lack of love that a lot of marriages have. Once again, I don’t mean everybody, but I feel there is a puritanical underbelly in Middle America, and this portion of God’s Image was satirizing that in a very broad way. Like in those TV shows from the 50’s and early 60’s where married couple slept in separate beds.


“Dino, my question is, with you going to explore the town of Morelton a little more, will we see the girl with piercings get her own side story? I think that she is probably the best character in the whole town.”

Oh, yes.


“Also, Is Morels father a H*mosexual or is he a Bisexual? I thought he had a thing with Orels coach, and I was just curious.”

You mean, Orel’s father, of course. I don’t think he really knows what he is. That man is confused.


“I know you probably don't want to give it away, but will we EVER know what's going on in Coach Stopframe's head? I think he's one of the most amusing characters in the show but I can't figure him out. Is he married? Was he that guy who was taking a pee next to Clay in The Lord's Greatest Gift? (I thought so but I'm not sure...) Is he having affairs with both of Orel's parents?! “

Yes, he was the guy watching Clay pee. He’ll have his own episode next season.


“ Who writes all the songs that play in the episodes when they're sitting in the car? “

Answered this in detail in my [as] interview, but Mark Rivers does MOST of the music and he’s great.


“Do you think we'll ever see Bob and David involved with the show?”

I don’t know. I offered them both opportunities to write a script, but they’re both very busy.


“In the latest episode concerning Orel's seed...

Pastry bags?

I was totally expecting a baster.

So why a pastry bag? It was so unexpected...or was that the point?”

That was the point.


“are we going to see orals children?”

Well, I don’t know how much time passes within a few seasons of Moral Orel. I have a feeling, so far, Season 1 and 2 spans about three months at the most. That kid’s life sure is packed full of excitement.


“Thanks for answering my questions. It's not often that one gets a chance to interact with one of their comedy heroes.”

Your welcome, citizen. It’s all in a day’s work.


“Dude you look like the J-man himself. Has anyone ever told you that?”

How dare you! the J-man obviously had blond hair and blue eyes. I think I look more like Manson.


“i love your show and i do because even i am a catholic and i do belive in god but i dislke the curch belife system and your show points fun of it so thank you for fighting the system”


“i love your show and i do because even thou i am a catholic and i do belive in god but i dislke the curch belife system and your show points fun of it so thank you for fighting the system sorry typo”

Thanks, and I’m glad you fixed those typos.


“Okay, is vodka your preferred drink, or was it just what was available at Comic-Con? cuz i am a vodka man myself.”

Yes, vodka.


“ moral's dad is hot, is he or any of
the other characters molded after real ppl?”

His name is Orel.

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hah i dunno why i called him moral...thanx 4answering
is the show gonna have orel grow up
& be a teenager or is he gonna be 4ever young?
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I've certainly considered having Orel age. I think it would be interesting to see how the town affects him as he gets older.

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was orel adopted
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Should I just give you my phone number and we can talk in person?
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hah yes
are we ever gonna see orel's dad pick'n up
a dude at the bar, or do i just have 2keep
imagining that in my head.
& what kinda clay is the best clay.
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Do you think you'd ever consider collaborating with William's Street writers on some show?
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Ever considered a Moral Orel live tour? Like Orel on Ice or something like that?
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Dino, I appreciate your answer man. Keep up the great work.
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thanks "peace"
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Haha, in hindsight "if you're allowed" is pretty funny. For what it's worth (which is very little), I'd agree with those choices.

One other thing, I was a bit thrown off when I saw the show premiere on AS because they showed "The Best Christmas Ever" first. It wasn't until later I found out it was supposed to be the finale. Was there...any particular reason why you/AS chose to air this one first? Now that I've seen the show it works a lot better, but without any character background it just comes off as depressing.
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sweet, i scored the 'weirdest question' question.
:smileyvery-happy:
thanks for answerin', man..
i have a few more:
any chance you could show us some the out-takes?
(are there any? :robottongue: )
do you have any clips of "A day at work with Dino and Co."?
(c'mon.. dig 'em out.. we like to see that stuff, ya' know)
any chance of Orel's mom having another kiddo?

that's totally cool about yer youngster doing Shapey and FP.
i bet youre one of those "cool dads".
:robothappy:
This bic's for you, Ry.
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BTW, do you consider "Moral Orel" to be cutting edge show? Was the intent of the show to be cutting edge?
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“Do you think you'd ever consider collaborating with William's Street writers on some show?”

Sure. I have nothing against it. It would just have to be an organic meeting and partnership. I’m not actively looking for collaborators.


“Ever considered a Moral Orel live tour? Like Orel on Ice or something like that?”

We did that yesterday. You missed it.


“One other thing, I was a bit thrown off when I saw the show premiere on AS because they showed "The Best Christmas Ever" first. It wasn't until later I found out it was supposed to be the finale. Was there...any particular reason why you/AS chose to air this one first? Now that I've seen the show it works a lot better, but without any character background it just comes off as depressing.”

Yeah, I knew it was a bad idea, but there’s a part of me that loves bad ideas. Show a depressing X-mas special without being invested in any of the characters. Really shock people. Make them mad. Then, if you gain fans after that, the show MUST be good.

I do sometimes wonder what the reaction would have been to the series as a whole--and that particular episode—if we showed them in the correct order. But Standards was a little hesitant to premiere at the original date, which would have landed the X-mas special in late December. Oddly enough, I think that making enemies with the public first helped the show stay away from the scrutiny of religious activists. No one took Moral Orel seriously after the Christmas episode. It seemed destined to fail and fade into obscurity. Close, but not quite.


“any chance you could show us some the out-takes?
(are there any? )”

Yeah. There will be a few on the DVD.


“do you have any clips of "A day at work with Dino and Co."?
(c'mon.. dig 'em out.. we like to see that stuff, ya' know)”

There’s one little documentary with some behind-the-scenes that will also go on the DVD.


“any chance of Orel's mom having another kiddo?”

We’ll see.


“that's totally cool about yer youngster doing Shapey and FP.
i bet youre one of those "cool dads".”

Yes, I am.


“What's the purpose of the stop-motion **bleep** films in the end credits? Is it just to show that even in his free time Orel is devoting all of his attention to the lord? Also, was it inspired by something?”

Well, he has the figures and it’s a stop-mo show, so I thought it would be cool if he did his own stop-mo with the **bleep** figures. It seemed like a natural idea.


“BTW, do you consider "Moral Orel" to be cutting edge show? Was the intent of the show to be cutting edge?”

Cutting edge is a strange term. I’ve been writing comedy professionally for about 12 years. Before that, about another 12. I am very jaded when it comes to what makes me laugh. I have to keep being surprised. So when I write, I try to surprise myself, of course. Is this “cutting edge?” Who knows? It amuses me and I write it down. And when someone pitches something that makes me laugh, and is organic to the show, I put it in. That said, I’m bored with shock humor. It was fun to employ it in the first ten episodes, among other things, but I really am starting to be fascinated with what makes all these characters tick, not to say that the show will be filled with feel-good moments. I am amazed that a few people on staff think that some of the situations are even more offensive in season 2. I don’t really think so, but then again, I’m not a great judge on what’s offensive. I just want the show to be interesting and entertaining.
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Oh, I've also been in some confusion with this. Is "Moral Orel" a parody of "Davy & Goliath" of shows like "Leave it To **bleep**"?
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