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That's awesome to hear that a minister is a fan.  If you don't mind, I intend to make mention of you in future arguments concerning whether this show is an affront to religion.

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;_; 40 on the curb for Moral Orel ;_;
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Moqtada
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This has hurt me badley, my sanity is fuuuuuudgeed now. I am horribly depressed.

I mean I have been depressed before but this is extreme.

I can't work, I can;t sleep. I don't feel like eating.

 

All because I started watching Moral Orel late, and regret not watching it from the beginning.

I hate myself for that.

 

I fuuuuuudgein hate you Adult Swim!

 

You made the biggest mistake ever!

 

May God **bleep!** Lazzo to the eternal depths of hell!

I hope it stays dark forever
I hope the worst isn't over
And I hope you blink before I do
Yeah I hope I never get sober
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DrSesame wrote:
Moral Orel has kind of 'evolved' it isn't the same show that it was signed for, but it isn't too far off from the first episode that premiered (that was the finale) which was 'The Best Christmas Ever' if you recall just how serious and dark it was then. As others have said, MO always had a darkness to it, but it was more about quick-shot jokes and horrible misinterpretations, this season is about character development. It isn't so much of a comedy anymore (I still laugh at what jokes are in the show though) but it's become so much more then that. It's a big shift, but in a good direction. As upset as I am it was cut short once things got really good, it's possible they wouldn't have gotten as good or had the same impact if there was another 7 episodes to it. Almost every episode this season has been a tense and emotional roller coaster-- it's involving and fascinating. Now if 7 more episodes had been thrown in, say more sort of 'Trigger-like' episodes, I don't think it'd be receiving quite as much attention or be as tense for people.


Brilliant point - AS was always clearly worried about this show's "darkness" (i.e. honesty).  The wrap-up promos even said they canceled it because of all the horrible things that were about to happen to Orel.  They clearly didn't get the sweetness and Orel's desperate grasping at anything that started to look like normality and warmth...even if it came in the guise of a porn-store-operating lesbian.  The ending was brilliant.  If there are enough hours in the day, I hope DS puts more of his ideas out on line and I can't wait for the new show!

Get over it.
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Moqtada
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I'd like to see Dino put up the original idea panels if made, if possible.

I would definitely buy them if he sold them.

 

I wish we could raise money to buy the rights from [as$] and try to get DS and the gang to get some more going, but it will never happen.

 

I have to realize that and just now noticed that thinking about it helped me with this depression I've had ever since watching "season" 3.

 

I love you Moral Orel. Dino and gang, you guys don't even know how much this show meant to me.

Sorry for watching it late. I really regret it. Please keep up the good work on future shows.

as Drinky Crow said "NOW NO ONE CAN STOP ME!!!"

 

*shoots self in head with god gun*

I hope it stays dark forever
I hope the worst isn't over
And I hope you blink before I do
Yeah I hope I never get sober
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Fatal_Blade
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Morel - you will be missed.
;(
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Harkonnen
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Fatal_Blade wrote:
Morel - you will be missed.
;(

 

Totally!!!!!!!:smileysad:

I fell in love with Morel out the fact that it felt like a twisted version of Davie and Goliath, but better.

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DrSesame
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I'm kind of curious to how large the puppets on MO was, it'd be funny to see someone holding the Orel puppet.
Other then God in 'Pleasure'.

What's that then Albert Vaginastein ?
R.I.P Moral Orel 2005-2008.
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DrSesame
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OH GOD, RUN OREL. XD

 

What's that then Albert Vaginastein ?
R.I.P Moral Orel 2005-2008.
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DrSesame wrote:
I'm kind of curious to how large the puppets on MO was, it'd be funny to see someone holding the Orel puppet.
Other then God in 'Pleasure'.


http://www.wizardworld.com/ch-moral.html

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Harkonnen
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DrSesame wrote:
I'm kind of curious to how large the puppets on MO was, it'd be funny to see someone holding the Orel puppet.
Other then God in 'Pleasure'.


That would be an interesting question, kinda curious myself.

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 Check out the above links.  The Holy Trinity's looking pretty haggard.

 

You know if Dino were holding the doll, he could do an uncanny impression of Saturn Devouring His Children.

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;_; 40 on the curb for Moral Orel ;_;
I ENJOY TIM AND ERIC AWESOME SHOW GREAT JOB.

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Moralton_Resident
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It's been so long since the actual first airing of the final episode, and even since the New Years' marathon.  I doubt anyone will care what I have to post, or possibly even notice it.  But I just now got to watching the last few episodes thanks to a recording of the New Years' marathon, so I'm behind a bit.  I decided to join these forums specifically to post my feelings about Moral Orel's final season, and what I feel of the series as a whole.

During Season 1 and the bulk of Season 2, Moral Orel was very much a show that I watched because it was on and I had nothing better to do when I had trouble sleeping late at night.  I had a limited enjoyment of the show.  It felt too sophmoric at times, and like it was going for shock value for the sake of it.  In the end, that sometimes lead to a disturbing or just plain unfunny episode that had nothing but that weak humor to hang on.

At some point, and I'm pretty sure it was through a re-run, I watched "Nature".  I think I even only caught Part 2 before seeing Part 1.  Suddenly, the show stopped being funny.  It got darker.  Suddenly, I looked at Orel and even Clay as people, rather than the puppet caricature that they were only a couple episodes back.

And the show was a million times better for it.

 

Through Season Three, I found myself feeling drawn in.  Unsympathetic, one-dimensional monsters of characters were shown for what they were, for what they had been and what lead them to  be the hypocritical shells that they are.  And I started to feel bad for every single resident of Moralton, even those that embodied things that I otherwise couldn't stand.  And that, in its own right, is an incredible achievement.


The following may contain spoilers for the Season Three finale. Skip it if you haven't seen it and don't want to be spoiled.

Moreso than anything, I really started to worry for Orel.  The strong parallels between Orel and the younger Clay left me feeling that the series may end with Orel becoming like Clay, or only gaining redemption through an outright denial of the existance of God.  Now, while I'm by no means a believer myself, the latter would have been a....bitter ending, moreso than if Orel had died.  Because the message sent by that would have been a "sheeple" sentiment, that the problem with the people of Moralton was that the citizens were "religious".  It would be an incredibly bitter disservice to the characters and the world to make a conclusion so simple and closed-minded in the opposite direction, and seeing that cross on Orel's wall was a wonderful reaffirmation that the show is about hypocrisy moreso than religion, organized religio, or Christianity being the crutch of the stupid.

Stopframe saw Clay in everyone but Orel.  I find that to be incredibly important.  I wish that sequence had been extended, that the whole episode had been extended.  To show...how each of this town's citizen's had some form of Clay's intense sense of anguish and self-loathing.  That Orel was so far-removed from that gave me hope for the character for the first time since he started to speak with less cheer and unbridled optimism.

 

There's a certain special quality to Moral Orel's final season.  It's something that I'd never have expected to see on television.  The original first runs of episodes still feels shallow to me, but in a way it set up a world to be explored, and having that original one-dimensional impression makes the final episodes THAT much more impactful.  I'm sure I'd buy Season Three on DVD, and perhaps Season Two if only for the "Nature" episodes.  Because there is something special in these, that just is not reflected in the first two season episodes.


In the end, I fell in love with Moral Orel.  I felt genuine emotion towards a group of puppets.  Puppets that, through the lens of the final season, showed more genuine HUMANITY than any show, live action or animated, that I can recall off the top of my head.  The suffering is something so genuine that it's palpable.  And...props on that musical selection for this season, as well.  I genuinely do not enjoy music by itself for the most part, but I can say that I'm now a fan of a few songs thanks to Orel.

 

I'm not sure what to say here.  Really, I feel like I have a million more words to say about Orel, Moralton, and the Moralton residents.  But they seem hidden and buried beneath a deep fog of just plain awe at how involving a show about a little puppet boy can be.

Just...major props, right there.  Major props.

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There is no sign of land,
You are coming down with me,
Hand in unlovable hand.
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Moqtada
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Moralton_Resident wrote:

It's been so long since the actual first airing of the final episode, and even since the New Years' marathon.  I doubt anyone will care what I have to post, or possibly even notice it.  But I just now got to watching the last few episodes thanks to a recording of the New Years' marathon, so I'm behind a bit.  I decided to join these forums specifically to post my feelings about Moral Orel's final season, and what I feel of the series as a whole.

During Season 1 and the bulk of Season 2, Moral Orel was very much a show that I watched because it was on and I had nothing better to do when I had trouble sleeping late at night.  I had a limited enjoyment of the show.  It felt too sophmoric at times, and like it was going for shock value for the sake of it.  In the end, that sometimes lead to a disturbing or just plain unfunny episode that had nothing but that weak humor to hang on.

At some point, and I'm pretty sure it was through a re-run, I watched "Nature".  I think I even only caught Part 2 before seeing Part 1.  Suddenly, the show stopped being funny.  It got darker.  Suddenly, I looked at Orel and even Clay as people, rather than the puppet caricature that they were only a couple episodes back.

And the show was a million times better for it.

 

Through Season Three, I found myself feeling drawn in.  Unsympathetic, one-dimensional monsters of characters were shown for what they were, for what they had been and what lead them to  be the hypocritical shells that they are.  And I started to feel bad for every single resident of Moralton, even those that embodied things that I otherwise couldn't stand.  And that, in its own right, is an incredible achievement.


The following may contain spoilers for the Season Three finale. Skip it if you haven't seen it and don't want to be spoiled.

Moreso than anything, I really started to worry for Orel.  The strong parallels between Orel and the younger Clay left me feeling that the series may end with Orel becoming like Clay, or only gaining redemption through an outright denial of the existance of God.  Now, while I'm by no means a believer myself, the latter would have been a....bitter ending, moreso than if Orel had died.  Because the message sent by that would have been a "sheeple" sentiment, that the problem with the people of Moralton was that the citizens were "religious".  It would be an incredibly bitter disservice to the characters and the world to make a conclusion so simple and closed-minded in the opposite direction, and seeing that cross on Orel's wall was a wonderful reaffirmation that the show is about hypocrisy moreso than religion, organized religio, or Christianity being the crutch of the stupid.

Stopframe saw Clay in everyone but Orel.  I find that to be incredibly important.  I wish that sequence had been extended, that the whole episode had been extended.  To show...how each of this town's citizen's had some form of Clay's intense sense of anguish and self-loathing.  That Orel was so far-removed from that gave me hope for the character for the first time since he started to speak with less cheer and unbridled optimism.

 

There's a certain special quality to Moral Orel's final season.  It's something that I'd never have expected to see on television.  The original first runs of episodes still feels shallow to me, but in a way it set up a world to be explored, and having that original one-dimensional impression makes the final episodes THAT much more impactful.  I'm sure I'd buy Season Three on DVD, and perhaps Season Two if only for the "Nature" episodes.  Because there is something special in these, that just is not reflected in the first two season episodes.


In the end, I fell in love with Moral Orel.  I felt genuine emotion towards a group of puppets.  Puppets that, through the lens of the final season, showed more genuine HUMANITY than any show, live action or animated, that I can recall off the top of my head.  The suffering is something so genuine that it's palpable.  And...props on that musical selection for this season, as well.  I genuinely do not enjoy music by itself for the most part, but I can say that I'm now a fan of a few songs thanks to Orel.

 

I'm not sure what to say here.  Really, I feel like I have a million more words to say about Orel, Moralton, and the Moralton residents.  But they seem hidden and buried beneath a deep fog of just plain awe at how involving a show about a little puppet boy can be.

Just...major props, right there.  Major props.


I agree .

I hope it stays dark forever
I hope the worst isn't over
And I hope you blink before I do
Yeah I hope I never get sober
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I am a somewhat similar case.

 

I rediscovered Moral Orel after getting reacquainted with Adult Swim in college.  I found the show hilarious and watched for about a week straight when all of the sudden Alone hit me in the heart like a bullet.  I realized something in Orel's world had changed, as I continued to watch I found out it had been Nature that had changed it. 

 

Listen closely though, I believe that Season 1 is hilarious and a funny series of self contained episodes then the christmas episode hits you like a brick.  The beginings of the darkness that would slip through Moralton's mask are there they are showing, go back and look.  The difference is nobody could see it that way.  They debuted with that episode even though it was intended for the season finale.  Everybody saw the slipped mask first and then the mask on next, as if the mask or moralton had been readjusted but it hadn't the episodes were out of order.  The one shots build up to the finale.  As much as I enjoy Season 1, Season 2 is even better every episode is great whether its hilarious or sad or more commonly both, every episode is fantastic. Season 3 was starting into something wide and brand new, something even better, something that sparked an obsession in me.  That's just the progression of the show though,  I have been thinking every day since Orel ended prematurely that we were robbed of seeing this story unfold.  As it stands the ending is grand, and wholy fufilling.  But will never know Censordoll's plans or how Clay would be after loosing Danielle, if there would be open conflict between Orel and his father, would Orel and Christina be able to have there relationship out in the open without turbulence, Stephanie and Putty, Scultham and her preganancy, Bendy and Joe, Doughy and his parents, what about unanswered threads from Season 2 now that Bendy is a functioning parent will she continue her affair with Fakey, Dino stated that Clay's father who is terminal and still estranged from Clay would move in would this finally be an authority figure that could give Orel the truth about the world or would his worldview be comprised as well accept to the opposite extreme, what of Putty and Orel's relationship seemingly the only well meaning adult in his town would Orel come in to conflict with his noticable faults or would Orel be understanding.

 

See we know how Orel ends up but what about his trip there, how would his world view change.  I personally saw Orel trying to help the town and becoming more and more outcast from the people along the way.  I wanted to see the Showdown for Moralton's fate between Orel and Censordoll, but alas its not coming.

 

What stands is a great series with three great seasons, that I love.

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Why was the show cancelled?
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Mooninitemaster wrote:
Why was the show cancelled?

 

apparently it was to depressing...

even though it seemed like the best show on tv

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Reply to fredsolo - Message ID#: 45096491

Yeah, it was pretty good.

I recorded it on my Apple TV on New Year's Eve.

And I still love watching it.

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Too bad they cancelled it. I thought the show was brilliant. The characters are spot on. 

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JohnsonDeAmor wrote:

Too bad they cancelled it. I thought the show was brilliant. The characters are spot on. 


 

Inorite?! :smileysad: :smileysad: :smileysad: :smileysad: I miss this show! Why [as], why did you do this to us?!?
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Maron
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Mooninitemaster wrote:
Why was the show cancelled?

Mike Lazzo thought the show didn't fit in with the rest of [as]'s programming, so instead of the show getting five seasons like originally planned, it was cut to three seasons, and instead of the 3rd season being 20 episodes, it got cut to only 13, leaving 7 unproduced episodes. Dino posted the script for one of those unaired episodes on his MySpace, but it got taken down.

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This show was excellent and will be missed.

 

It had a fabulous run.

 

Thank you, Dino Stamatopolous. :smileyhappy:

Hey Kool-Aid!!!
SwimPunk
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I have next to nothing kind to say about this show.  The characters, especially Orel, are unbelieveably annoying.  Don't get me wrong, I TRIED to like it, I really did.  I've seen most of the episodes, and kept expecting it to get better.  In fact that's how most episodes I've seen would go.  I'd begin watching, get really pissed at how annoying the characters all were, and would wait for it to get better.  But, alas, none ever redeemed themselves.  I'm sorry to say it, but let this show die and never darken the screens of Adult Swim again.
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Go back to your hole, Family Guy lover.

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;_; 40 on the curb for Moral Orel ;_;
I ENJOY TIM AND ERIC AWESOME SHOW GREAT JOB.