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http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/blackrockshooter

 

First episode went live this morning. Anyone seen it?

 

First episode in, looks pretty good

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dont know much about this anime. Im 5mins in and lost? 

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First ep was fine.

It looks nice too. Action isn't bad either but I expect it to get better once the others are introduced.
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I was bored through most of it.


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Kuroi is the nicest person. X_X

I felt bad for her.
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First episode was not as painful as the OVA, but they gave the main character the development it should take quite a few episodes to make. Way, way too rushed. On top of that being that the development was predictable and pertained to drama that I can't find a single reason to give a #### about.

Everything outside of the high school bull#### was fine. Well animated and pretty neat. Not enough of it, though. If the next 2 episodes don't improve the crappy story, I'm just going to skip to the alternate world scenes.
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Yawn.

 

I fail to understand why they feel the need to consistently tie BRS to schoolgirls. 

 

She should just kick ass and that's it. The "other world" scenes were awesome, everything else was dull. 

 

 

Ah well, at least there's still the game...whenever they get around to releasing the English version. 

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I wish this were two separate shows. As it is, the action stuff is just THIS IS SYMBOLIC for the schoolgirl stuff. I don't follow the fluff here, but I'm sure there could be a decent story there by itself. And with the action, the schoolgirl stuff just seems rushed.

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Action still fine.

But the high school drama is pushing itself even further on me wanting it to be plain omitted.

They really plan to drag the uninteresting, easily solvable problem of MC vs. evil cripple ('cause all cripples are evil) for another 9or so episodes? It's boring and been rushed to the point that it could be resolved next episode, but I doubt they will.

The conflict is bull####. The main character's been given numerous chances to be friends with other people, but the story's melodrama insists on the personality-less glasses girl as being the only thing worth while. The dialogue is absolute balls, especially the forced metaphors about crap we know close to nothing about due to only having 2 highly rushed episodes. There's overacting on everyone's behalf, the conflict isn't that big of a deal. The characters hardly know each other,, normally it'd just be "Oh, that was weird" and then you'd move on with your #### life 'cause #### happens. But someone not showing up? Yeah, it's offensive perhaps, and if it's someone you really liked it can be pretty hurtful. The problem here is that it's far too soon for that situation to matter. We've been dropped into a vague timeline, and while it could be that they've known each other for months, I'm left assuming each event is shortly after the previous because we haven't been give clear time markers. So, Oh no, someone skipped out on me when I've known them for a week! It hurts so much! Hey, viewer, my feelings are hurt, but in case you didn't get that from the tear, I'll narrate it a bit and flashback to something that happened a couple days ago. Maybe the drama would work if it wasn't two characters that met, had a 6-minute conversation where they found something in common, then became awkwardly obsessed with each other.

Might get too fed up net episode to watch the high school drama crap, but I'll probably watch the other less ####ty parts.
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Darkstar_Zero wrote:

http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/blackrockshooter

 

First episode went live this morning. Anyone seen it?

 

First episode in, looks pretty good


I found it mellow and Boring:smileyindifferent:, it was alright, also I take it that like the OVA the

Spoiler
 girl will never actually become black rock shooter, she'll just angst for a great while and then she'll meet Black rock shooter in the final episode thus ending the series, what Genre is this anime?, I've seen it described as Magical girl but.....there's no Magical girls, it just shows two variations of the main cast in different universes and in one they're normal girls while in the other they're weird dystopian warriors(''o_O'')

 I feel like the battles are tacked on and completely unnecessary

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I feel that the high school drama is tacked on and unnecessary.
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I agree with all of this except that being stood up is not no big deal, no matter how long you've known someone.  If someone stands me up without a word, they'd better be dead or in the hospital in a coma.  If I've known them awhile, they're dead to me.  If I've known them a short time, I don't know them anymore.  It's rude and disrespectful and I won't put up with it, nor am I going to feel sympathy for a doormat that does.

 

Couldn't even make it past the halfway mark on that episode, I was so #### bored.  Done.


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I can't help but completely feel bad for Kuroi in this.

Gah. >_<
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Yeah, Yomi should've stopped caring a long time ago.

 

On a better note, it looks like Black Gold Saw will be making more appearances.

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It takes worse than that for someone to make me never want to see them again.

The problem is that the MC just takes it and still narrow-mindedly pursues that person and only that person. No other potential friend's matter, maybe they just don't appear lesbian-ish enough for her?
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Ep 2 was better than ep 1.

 

Mostly because it seems like we're moving past the drama at a faster pace. That and I have no idea what happened at the end. 

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I must watch Ep 2!
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That book is so sad, and that therapist is so evil, and HOLY CRAP WHERE DID HER SHADOW GO.

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How? :smileyindifferent:

 

The drama in this is hysterically and painfully weak. Everything is entirely eyeroll worthy.

 

Oh my god, she's cutting her hair! Stop it! NO, DON'T DO THAT! Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. This is so messed up. She's gone CUH-RAZY! Call her mother and have her taken home!

 

And then the bull#### of "You just need to go to her and explain everything!" then "Okay, I'll go there and explain everything!" but what in the holy fuuuuuudgenuggets is there to explain? "I'm so sorry I had other friends! I shouldn't have done that! Please forgive me!"? What bull####. The stakes are exceedingly low because nobody is worth caring about. Mato starts freaking out over Yuu disappearing, and I'm going "which one was Yuu? Oh, right." We hardly know her. :/

 

 

 

Also, I watched the part where Mato got hit in the face with a baketball at least 8 times.

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Darkstar_Zero wrote:
This show is really really messed up...

Yep. >_<

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Gotta say I'm disappointed, I wasn't a giant fan of the OVA to begin with, but it was cool

the characters in the series are totally different, save for Mato [the main character?]
Absolutely hated how they took the deadmaster and made her useless and dependent on mato
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DeathInACan wrote:
Gotta say I'm disappointed, I wasn't a giant fan of the OVA to begin with, but it was cool

the characters in the series are totally different, save for Mato [the main character?]
Absolutely hated how they took the deadmaster and made her useless and dependent on mato
only reason I like the show is for the visuals and the hopefully amazing figures it will spawn

Me neither. If they adapted the OVA properly, and kept the storyline closer to the manga, it would've turned out much better.

 

The manga isn't half bad at all, and there is zero focus on anyone's school life drama, which is making this series a little iffy.

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Oh lol.

This show is so bad. I mean, really unbelievably #### bad. I'm kind of enjoying it for the factor of being absolute #### at this point. Not just such, but the makers take it so #### seriously and nothing in it is feasible for me to give a flying fuuuuuudge about.

Episode 5 what hilariously bad particularly during the "Then the bird collected too many colors and turned black then it fell and fell and died" thing. Now, here's where the main character for no logistically sound reason becomes FULLY aware of the metaphor the show has been using; suddenly, her life has themes. But what makes it worse is how she starts bawling and crying and screaming at how terrible this book is because it is clearly what emotionally scarred glasses-girl, which is flipping retarded considering it's a bloody picture book for 7-year-olds. I mean, ####, aren't they at least 6th or 7th graders? Aren't most 6th or 7th graders reading, like, novels? Perhaps not highly advanced books, but they were throwing unabridged Shakespeare crap (fuuuuuudge Shakespeare, pretentious tool) at us before 8th. And here we have a kid in a country that generally has higher expectations of education tearing up over "Nobody Poops But You". Then even scribbles in stupid little "Happy Endings". But look ath the surrounding shots of the book.

Whether it's a shot before she has a mental breakdown, or a shot after: She's only about halfway through it.

Turn the page, idiot.

But no, 6 just made me go into a near infinite loop of facepalming. Last time, we saw Idiot run and run and run to find that lesbi- Yuri chick's house after everyone was like "Who da fuuuuuudge is dat? We dun know anyone by dat name, yo". So she's crying and running and crying and flipping a ####, only to find that Yuri's house has *gasp* vanished from the end of the road! Her house is gone and has become a river! Oh no!

Now, flastforward to episode 6. Flashback to Saya meeting Yuri several years ago. I'm hoping they give at least a poor explanation of how Yuri was the same age long enough ago to for Saya to not only finish high school, but also become a school counselor without aging a day, however the episode isn't over nor is that the idiotic point. Point is, Saya bolts to Yuri's house when hearing about a fire.

The house is located at the intersection that cuts off at the river. Heading in the direction of dip####, all she had to do was turn right at the last house.

#### idiot. Freaking out because "SHE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

No, you're just looking in the wrong direction.

Seriously, the kids were just messing with you.
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Glad this crap is over.

My "turn the page, idiot" comment was apparently right. :smileyvery-happy:

The heavyhanded metaphors took over the entirety of the finale. I don't think there was a single line without direct connection to the metaphors. Conversations were essentially back-and-forths of "I want to get hurt and not hurt anybody" followed by "How could you want to get hurt and not want to hurt anybody?"

They spent 6 episodes focusing completely on Yomi and Kagari, then at the last minute lop together a tragic, yet bull####tingly not foreshadowed, backstory to Yuu. Then I'm expected to care that she's having a rough time? Yuu's backstory hardly made sense. She's known Saya for years, but apparently hasn't gotten older? When did she meet Mato? Why does she treat Mato as her only friend? When did all the alleged bullying happen? When she first met Saya? When the fuuuuuudge was that? How long ago was that? We never saw her get bullied, other than maybe a single time in the inconsequential flashback with literally no time reference. But the bullying was a huge ordeal, right? Why were we never shown a single, solitary implication of it until the 7th of 8 episodes?

How in hell am I supposed to care about the character? I didn't even know she was Mato's best friend until episode 6, when they explicitly stated it.

And for ####'s sake, they had 6 episodes focused all around this bull#### Kagari/Yomi/Mato melodrama, but after the last 4 minutes of 6, it became irrelevant. They hardly returned to it at all. When they finally confronted it, they simply made everyone suddenly become happy. What was the point of all that melodrama if it was going to be ALL ABOUT YUU?

Good grief, why would noitaminA air this? And alongside, of all things, Guilty Crown? GC sounds like it's being regarded a ####ty program. And anyone that this BRS was any good clearly hasn't seen metaphors used in media, nor drama beyond Jersey Shore.
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