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Shit man, I didn't even think about that.

 

You better be alive, Toagshi. :smileyindifferent:

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So the latest chapter came out.

Killua's little sister is completely broken.
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So you didn't know that Gon's father finally makes an appearance.
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There's really no way to predict what's going to happen in this manga is there? Killua having a genie sister, I mean what the hell. That **beast** could've killed Meryem.

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Only if you fulfilled all three of her pesters.

And even then who knows how high the price would be for killing him.

Using a toxic nuke is easier than making a wish with Alluka.
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Yeah but it would only affect the pesterings for the next person who uses her. Sweet deal really.

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Actually it affects them and their love one depending on how strong the wish is.

The one where she asked for liver and kept going till the fourth pester resulted in the death of 67 people. Who knows what the price for Meryem would cost.
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My understanding is that the pester's are decided not by the wish, but by the wish before it.

 

So, if they had used that power on Meryem the price would be determined by whatever the previous wish was (in this case a computer).

 

 

Esentially the cost would only play a role the next time she had someone to pester. So, in theory, it could've worked. But then there wouldn't be this opportunity for Killua to save Gon. But for that to happen we're going to have to see how things play out. It's not Hunter unless someone gets messed up. <_<

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That's exactly right.

And I said who knows how high that price might be for killing him. Not to mention the number of people who could die if you aren't able to grant it.
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But like I was trying to say, that's only applicable if someone wants another wish. 

 

Simply put, remove her from the picture after the wish is granted, then there's no need to pay "the price." 

 

 

That's why they keep her locked away, I would assume. 

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But as you can see they clearly use her for when they want wishes granted.

So eventually they'll use her.
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Someone just needs to wish for universal happiness or something and then cut her head off. But then again there's probably some stipulation like, all the bad karma she has yet to dish out will immediately go into effect once she dies.

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With the newest chapter I am starting to believe that Alluka is male or female depending on the one talking. The one Killua knows is the girl while the one his siblings only know the wish granting boy.

 

It's the only way I can understand why Killua's siblings call Alluka a boy while Killua calls him a girl.

 

Or maybe Killua can't gender.

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Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I wonder why Illumi thought the fallout from the wish could be in the tens of thousands, that's pretty absurd. But I guess Gon must've had to pay a heavy price to get that wicked awesome hair.

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I think it's because no one has wished for something impossible. Becoming a billionare, having someone killed. Sure those are hard to accomplish, but not impossible.

 

Illumi straight up said that returning Gon to normal was beyond science and medicine, so bringing him back would carry a greater burden.

 

Tens of thousands does seem high, but I wouldn't count it out.

 

 

 

This was a really good chapter though.

 

The Illumi/Hisoka interaction was pretty funny and interesting and I loved the rather grim representation of the scene where Killua pretends to die. 

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can someone please tell me why yoshihiro makes so many of these powers/techniques so **beast** complicated? i feel i have to read chapters like the lastest one at least 3 times just to sort out all the rules.

 

and im sure theres gonna be at least a whole chap on a loophole in alluka technique that'll let killua and gon live

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Because it's more interesting.

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maybe for fights but i hate it when the loopholes are used to move the plot. it makes the whole scenario seemed forced.

its like trying to gob makeup on the typical shounen formula. im not asking for innovation but....

 

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Chapter 324 is out.

 

I really want to see Tsubone in action, she looks like a monster. But hey, this seems like a good example of how complicated rules and techniques can lead to interesting things. Without a slightly complicated description of how Alluka's powers work, it wouldn't be surprising that Killua could make a conditional wish.

 

I mean, if her powers were simply left at 'granting wishes', then the reader's expectations would remain nebulous, it wouldn't matter to us what she is and isn't allowed to do. But if our expectations are skewed in some direction, then it feels like an entirely new development when those expectations are challenged and something happens kind of outside of the rules. It's like an art to make rules and then change/break them in clever, logical ways.

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I'm starting to think Killua can't gender.

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Yeah, what I'm really enjoying about this is the subtle subterfuge going on between Killua and his family as he tries to save Gon. It's interesting to see them play different advantages against each other and it's especially interesting given that we don't understand the full extent of Alluka's powers. Hopefully it works out though. 

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Okay this is a spoiler of this weeks chapter but it's a too awesome not to post especially since pics have shown up.

 

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あ时间ないんで流し読みだ。
多少の详细は后ほど。
今回は选挙编。
パリストンとかジンとか演说してた。
演说を见に来ていたレオリオがジンに『なぜゴンの所へ行ってやらない!
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次の投票でレオリオ3位に急浮上(55表

モラウの所に居るレオリオはキルア家へ電話してゴトーにキルアと電話を
つなげとキレるレオリオ。

黙れ三下と怒るゴトー。病院に付いた時の条件を色々話す。モラウが条件
付きで合意。
ハンター協会の除念師はゴンさんを見て絶句の表情でサジを投げた。こん
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ゴンがこんな状況なのに電話に出ないクラピカに怒るレオリオ。
ここからハンター協会での演説でさっきの話。

Pariston and Gin are debating.

Leorio jumps in and asks why Gin why he didn't go see his son, Gin replied he didn't know Gon wanted to see him.

Leorio used his new ability and punched Gin in the face and left.

Leorio called Killua's family to let them how he thinks they **beast**.

Leorio is angry that Kurapika who hasn't visited Gon yet.

The aura remover Morel found says that was out of his league.

Leorio came in at #3 on the voting (behind Pariston and Chidol, presmably) with 55 votes.
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Holy shiat.

He's back. I might have to actually catch up on the manga now... (nah)
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