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_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

and tells them to take out their frustration out on him. They proceed to beat the crap out of him

 

lolwut?:smileyindifferent:


Killing Sasuke is just going to spread even more hatred. Naruto knows this which is why he offered himself as a substitiute for them to direct their anger towards. Naruto can take it. 

 



I can see them wanting to vent their anger on him...but it doesn't make sense for him to just take it like an asshat:smileyindifferent:

I really hope he doesn't get toooo pacifist...cuz that'll just annoy me more than impress me with his "maturity"


Too pacifist? Sure, Naruto wants to end the chain of hatred that a ninja life brings, but come on, more than that, he wants to protect Sasuke. This is his way of doing so. I don't think it makes him an "asshat". I'm really not sure why this bothers you at all. We all know if he were serious, he could do away with the Cloud nins, but again, that would breed more hatred.

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weak. his friend knowningly joined two groups of people who wanted to destroy the leaf one of which did. i think i'll be happy to see naruto get the crap knocked the crap out of him after that. i don't understand how naruto is ok with the fact that sasuke was trying to capture a tailed beast to extract it from it's host when he will next. why care about sasuke when he doesn't care at all about him. tried to kill him several times and doesn't care. let him go down whatever path he wants. it just needs to end with naruto killing sasuke to save his own life.

 

funny thing is two of the most strongest fighter from the leaf were last genin.


I'm sure Naruto is not okay and does not condone what Sasuke has been up to, but Naruto still considers Sasuke a friend and doesn't want any harm coming to him. Naruto believes he can change Sasuke, which is why he hasn't given up on him.

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_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

and tells them to take out their frustration out on him. They proceed to beat the crap out of him

 

lolwut?:smileyindifferent:


Killing Sasuke is just going to spread even more hatred. Naruto knows this which is why he offered himself as a substitiute for them to direct their anger towards. Naruto can take it. 

 



I can see them wanting to vent their anger on him...but it doesn't make sense for him to just take it like an asshat:smileyindifferent:

I really hope he doesn't get toooo pacifist...cuz that'll just annoy me more than impress me with his "maturity"


Too pacifist? Sure, Naruto wants to end the chain of hatred that a ninja life brings, but come on, more than that, he wants to protect Sasuke. This is his way of doing so. I don't think it makes him an "asshat". I'm really not sure why this bothers you at all. We all know if he were serious, he could do away with the Cloud nins, but again, that would breed more hatred.


He could always just say I'm not going to tell you anything and just kinda...leave. I really see no reason why he needs to get the crap beat out of him in this situation. It just seems like a stupid decision

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Why would he attack Anko?

Oh wait, she was Orichimaru's old pet project wasn't she?

I nearly forgot about Kabuto. With Orichimaru possessing him, he may have some intresting developments.

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DreamTheater2112 wrote:

_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

and tells them to take out their frustration out on him. They proceed to beat the crap out of him

 

lolwut?:smileyindifferent:


Killing Sasuke is just going to spread even more hatred. Naruto knows this which is why he offered himself as a substitiute for them to direct their anger towards. Naruto can take it. 

 



I can see them wanting to vent their anger on him...but it doesn't make sense for him to just take it like an asshat:smileyindifferent:

I really hope he doesn't get toooo pacifist...cuz that'll just annoy me more than impress me with his "maturity"


Too pacifist? Sure, Naruto wants to end the chain of hatred that a ninja life brings, but come on, more than that, he wants to protect Sasuke. This is his way of doing so. I don't think it makes him an "asshat". I'm really not sure why this bothers you at all. We all know if he were serious, he could do away with the Cloud nins, but again, that would breed more hatred.


He could always just say I'm not going to tell you anything and just kinda...leave. I really see no reason why he needs to get the crap beat out of him in this situation. It just seems like a stupid decision


Yes, and if he leaves, that's just going to **BLEEP** them off even more, and then, they won't even let him come along to find Kirabi and at that point, they really would be hell bent on killing Sasuke, thus the chain of hatred would continue. Having them take out their pain and frustration out on him seems fine to me. He'll be fine. He'll just get up, brush his shoulders off, and move on.
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Hey is the Shippuuden thread still active?

 

I finally caught up to the latest ep (skipped the fillers) and I must say that the animation has improved a lot. U can notice it in the character's movements, the colors and dramatic effects. I don't know if it's done by the same animation company or a different one but kudos on the quality power up. The eps 79 - 80 were really good.

 

About the manga, it might be interesting to see a second showdown between Gaara & Sasuke since the first was interrupted and now they have both developed in their powers and Gaara no longer has the Shukaku.

 

As to that comment made by Madara about syncing Sasuke w/ the Gedo Mazo, it raised the question wether he wants Sasuke to contain all the demons in his body??? I dunno, that may be a weird theory.

 

Also Nagato's Gedo Mazo reminded me of Itachi's Susano O.

 





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_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

_rebornaraku_ wrote:

DreamTheater2112 wrote:

and tells them to take out their frustration out on him. They proceed to beat the crap out of him

 

lolwut?:smileyindifferent:


Killing Sasuke is just going to spread even more hatred. Naruto knows this which is why he offered himself as a substitiute for them to direct their anger towards. Naruto can take it. 

 



I can see them wanting to vent their anger on him...but it doesn't make sense for him to just take it like an asshat:smileyindifferent:

I really hope he doesn't get toooo pacifist...cuz that'll just annoy me more than impress me with his "maturity"


Too pacifist? Sure, Naruto wants to end the chain of hatred that a ninja life brings, but come on, more than that, he wants to protect Sasuke. This is his way of doing so. I don't think it makes him an "asshat". I'm really not sure why this bothers you at all. We all know if he were serious, he could do away with the Cloud nins, but again, that would breed more hatred.


He could always just say I'm not going to tell you anything and just kinda...leave. I really see no reason why he needs to get the crap beat out of him in this situation. It just seems like a stupid decision


Yes, and if he leaves, that's just going to **BLEEP** them off even more, and then, they won't even let him come along to find Kirabi and at that point, they really would be hell bent on killing Sasuke, thus the chain of hatred would continue. Having them take out their pain and frustration out on him seems fine to me. He'll be fine. He'll just get up, brush his shoulders off, and move on.

 I know in the big picture its nothing...but it still just kinda annoys me for whater reason...Guess I'll actually have to read the chapter before I really start getting into it...

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Yeah, I can imagine. :smileyhappy: I don't really mind the fillers though, I know they are an unfortunate necessity. I hope they don't start up again in Naruto, since I believe that a new filler arc will begin in Bleach. I really should start looking for some new anime.

 





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Chapter's out

 

 

 

Still doesn't confirm Tobi is or isn't Danzo as he said it out loud

 

Tobi or not Tobi? That is the question.

 

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Chapter's out. Pretty good.
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A pacifist ninja does seem like an oxymoron. But hey I guess it's possible... boring and absurd, but possible.

 

Still I get the whole revenge begets revenge that Kishi sems to point out.

 

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The Mizukage is hawt... what?

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Agreed. Danzo is getting a bit annoying. Am not sure if that's a sign that he's going to become a good "bad guy" or not.

 





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After reading the chapter I suppose his decision makes more sense...but it should be interesting to see how Kishi continues to handle this new hatred angle/theme

 

seeing all the kage's was pretty cool...I'd bang the mizukage....that is all

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Pretty great chapter, here are my thoughts on it:

Oh Naruto, hopefully that *** whupping Karui handed to you will knock some sense into you...

Anyone else getting that "trap" feeling from Kurozuchi?

Looks like the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist aren't all cocky bastards...

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The only thing to gather about Danzou is as a whole he became Hokage for his own interests, not for the sake of the village. I'm beginning to doubt he's Tobi, and for some reason I've even been questioning if the Tobi we see anymore is actually there! I mean, if he's some sort of Ninjutsu or something created by Madara, at least that would explain why he can't be hit.

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On this new chatper, only one thing is really on my mind. Kisame addressed Tobi as "Mizukage," yet this chapter we see that the Mizukage is a woman. What the hell is that about?

 

Also, the theory that Danzo is Tobi is still on the table and it may have even gained some more weight with the Danzo secretly thinking that Kabuto might know about him and Orochimaru. I suppose Danzo could have been referring to some bad things he did with Orochimaru back when he was apart of the village, but it could have something to do with Akatsuki as well.

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Oh it makes sense... in a parallel universe. This made me ask myself if I would ever do that for a friend? The answer is no. Perhaps only for my family and that's coz we're close. But I suppose that's how Naruto who grew up /wo a family sees Sasuke, as his brother. Still if I ever did that for my own brother I would insist of having a go at him afterward. U know, a few sisterly smacks to let off some steam for the his stupid actions that probably caused the problem in the first place. And I can be quite vicious. Either that or a new car... with that new car smell.... A Benz, the new E class, in black. Yeaahhh, the car wins, he better get me a new car.

 





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Yeah I saw something about this theory in some other forums, only I was too lazy to go look for the original post to see what is was about. I think it had something to do w/ Tobi's arms and how he never uses his hands for jutsus and Danzou's body is busted up in a similar way. Apart from that I really don't know much about it.
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UrameshiCdd wrote:

On this new chatper, only one thing is really on my mind. Kisame addressed Tobi as "Mizukage," yet this chapter we see that the Mizukage is a woman. What the hell is that about?

 

Also, the theory that Danzo is Tobi is still on the table and it may have even gained some more weight with the Danzo secretly thinking that Kabuto might know about him and Orochimaru. I suppose Danzo could have been referring to some bad things he did with Orochimaru back when he was apart of the village, but it could have something to do with Akatsuki as well.


Yup, I noticed that and was quite confused by it.

 

And I think that what Danzou is worried about is that Anko might find out that he was trying to make a deal w/ Oro back when he sent Sai w/ the list of the Anbu's identities (tho' we know that he was trying to have Sasuke killed), plus I think he also wants to regenerate his body w/ Oro's techniques.

 

I really don't know much about this Danzou = Tobi theory, but it doesn't make sense that Tobi would want to have Sasuke killed like Danzou seems intent on doing. Rather Tobi has a purpose in mind for Sasuke. And really the guy already has 3 identities (Madara, Tobi and Obito). A fourth one would be really pushing it, even for Kishi.

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UrameshiCdd wrote:

On this new chatper, only one thing is really on my mind. Kisame addressed Tobi as "Mizukage," yet this chapter we see that the Mizukage is a woman. What the hell is that about?

 


That was actually an error. Kisame addressed him as former mizukage.
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So what does everyone think that is on the last page of the chapter with Danzou...looks like machinery or something.
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Chapter 404, page 1.

 

I haven't seen a version that translates it as "former mizukage," it just says "Mizukage."

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Chapter 404, page 1.

 

I haven't seen a version that translates it as "former mizukage," it just says "Mizukage."


Because that's what it said in the chapter, but it was corrected for the volume release to say "former Mizukage".

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