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[TheBigOFan72]

Yeah, they're going too far. helpme, this will even s.crew company websites. YouTube would go bye-bye due to all the copyrighted stuff on there, even though there are legal anime streams on there.

[Megiddo]

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Tyrannosaurus wrote:

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helpme wrote:

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Pandaka wrote:
SOPA will pass.

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I think it already did pass

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It hasn't yet, because all those letters, petitions, and protests did make a difference and as a result Congress delayed the vote further until after the holidays.

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I hope you're being sarcastic, but something tells me you aren't.

Here's a hint: The bill can't pass without the Senate being in session, and the Senate is away on "vacation".  The payroll tax cut extension is of far more importance for legislators than this SOPA thing.

[Pandaka]

I have a question thread people...

Will SOPA really do that much damage to the internet how we know it?

Or will it be another of those "oh no its doom!" but then nothing changes things?

I have a feeling if SOPA does pass... Torrents, animu, music downloading and all the like will stay exactly the same.

[TheGreatUrameshi13]

Basically review sites like ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.com and others could be shut down.  The Nostalgia Critic had a bit of a rough spot when he tried to review The Room.  Picture that times a thousand.

[Megiddo]

"could be"

That's the key phrase.

Could be.

It's a stupid phrase.

I could go over to your house and kill you.

But does that really mean anything? Of course not.

Why would TGWTG get taken down? Practically everything they do falls under fair use. There would be no reason. Now yes, it "could" be taken down. But will it? Of course not. Will torrent sites that host popular games and movies? You bet they will. Streaming sites of sports/TV/movies? Yep.

[Pandaka]

If its that bad... Then there will be protest.

If it does pass and does effect the internet THAT bad, then it wont last for long.

[TheBigOFan72]

How about YouTube? I expect YouTube to definitely be affected by this.

[Megiddo]

Howso?

YouTube already takes into account DMCA stuff and any complaints made to Youtube/Google on behalf of the rights owners results in immediate reaction.

[conanwong]

i've done my part. forgot when i signed that petition...

[zoid9000]

Hahaha. That's cute, you think they won't abuse it.

But they will. 

[TheBigOFan72]

They don't catch much of the stuff, and they don't really until someone reports it to them, whether it's a valid claim, or someone pretending to be the company.

[TheGreatUrameshi13]

Yes, because people never eeeever abuse their power.

As the bill was originally written, "offending" sites could be delisted from the internet without prior warning.  All because some suit files a complaint.

Also, if you think YouTube won't be affected, then why has Google been so adamant against it?

[TheBigOFan72]

Or if there are a couple links to illegal streaming sites. You could have like two, someone files a claim, and bam, gone.

Also, SOPA will kill Google.

[Pandaka]

Ide say 'If its this bad then theres no way congress would ever even think about passing this bill"

Then they passed the abolishment of the 4th amendment recently.

Anyone can be put into prison with no reason and with no trial for anything the government says now.

So like... You know what... i dont know anymore.

[TheBigOFan72]

Our politicians are corrupt these days. You know what, we should all just move to Japan. Sure the anime is expensive as fuuuuuudge, you have to pay for streams, and other things, but at least we'll still have internet.

[DarkKingSilvers]

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TheBigOFan72 wrote:

Our politicians are corrupt these days. You know what, we should all just move to Japan. Sure the anime is expensive as fuuuuuudge, you have to pay for streams, and other things, but at least we'll still have internet.

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I sincerely hope this was sarcasm.

[Megiddo]

Google is "adamant" against it because that is basic PR. It looks like they're "fighting" for the little guy. They don't stand to lose anything.

And unless you can cite me precedent of the government abusing federal regulation of the internet, then I'm not going to entertain your babble.

The main focus of internet protesters or whatever should always be the net neutrality/eminent domain issue. Because, unlike the federal government which gains nothing by (dastardly) shutting down sites, the corporations that comprise TV/ISP/Media/etc can make an assload of money if their lobbyists do what they're paid for. Thar is the real threat. Because that's the difference between "could be" and "will be"/

[TheBigOFan72]

It is sarcasm so you can rest easy.

[GinaSzanboti]

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Megiddo wrote:
Google is "adamant" against it because that is basic PR. It looks like they're "fighting" for the little guy. They don't stand to lose anything.

And unless you can cite me precedent of the government abusing federal regulation of the internet, then I'm not going to entertain your babble.

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Actually, Google stands to lose a lot, given that they link to sites with pirated content, and sometimes get paid for every click-thru.

Don't know about you, but to me, this sounds like over-reaching.

"But under British law, the site is not illegal."

The Fail Toys guy, who we all know is crazy hyper in his presentations (try to endure that to hear what he's saying), makes some interesting points about SOPA here.  I wonder if anyone will actually take the companies pushing for SOPA to court for providing the piracy software under their own branding banners, with instructions on exactly how to find and download even their own copyrighted material.  That's some testimony before Congress I'd love to listen to.

[TheGreatUrameshi13]

We're talking about a government who took the liberty to blow up a citizen into itty-bitty pieces without even sniffing a courtroom.  But you're right, I'm sure if they're willing to kill one of their own citizens, they'll surely not abuse any legislation geared toward the internet.

You're the most naive cynic I have ever met.

[TheBigOFan72]

Yup, the possibility of them going after more than just illegal streaming sites is high. Hell, I heard this could lead to people getting in trouble for using a Skyrim avatar on a forum for example.

It's a shame that every time they make a bill to try to stop piracy, they always go too far. Can't anybody get a piracy bill right?

[Megiddo]

A courtroom? Why would they go into the courtroom?

Are you seriously so stupid as to believe the US Constitutional right of trial to be granted to those who are outside the country and actively fighting against it? I knew you were an incorrigible idiot Urameshi, but I figured even you wouldn't be dumb enough to bring up such a thing.

Thankfully though, you seem to have been unable to come up with precedent of the US government abuse of federal regulation of the internet, and as such, I don't have to entertain your inane babble any longer.

[TheGreatUrameshi13]

Gina already made a valid argument, so I just figured I'd point out the obvious point that the government will readily over step its bounds if it feels it serves a purpose.

Of course, but you'd much rather sit back and call me names.  That's something only petulant children who know they can't win the argument resort to.

[TheBigOFan72]

Just like with the PlayStation Network hacking incident. We had certain parts of the government get involved in that. The guys responsible for that were in Sweden IIRC.

[Megiddo]

That wasn't at all a valid argument. The case has absolutely nothing to do with government abuse of federal regulation of the internet, but I'm guessing you didn't even bother to read the article. Unless of course you believe that sites that host links to piracy are not subject to being seized for their illegal content. And if you believe that all piracy should be exempt from punishment on the internet then this discussion isn't even worth it.