CronoT wrote:
In my experience, most women have no idea what they want, or have some Grimm's Fairytales Rose-colored glasses on that make them think some prince or rich 'hottie' will come stumbling into their life.
In the case of the former, it's almost hopeless. Until they "Find themselves"; a "Waiting for Godot" metaphor if I ever heard one, they will grab, use up, and toss away good, bad and indifferent men, ad naseum, until there's either none left, or until they hit the wall and fall off.
In the latter case, there is some hope. I, myself, am a recovering Rose-colored Glasses wearer. Once you recognize your false way of seeing the world, you can step out and see it for what it is. But, the first step is the hardest. It's also harder for women then men, beacause society has conditioned them that way.
So, yes, I want to find a woman who's personality and expectations aren't FUBAR'ed, but I lose more hope with each passing day. I thought I had found The One. Instead, I only found more grief and lies. She was the primary inspiration for my topic about how having a dog is more fulfilling than a woman in the long run.
I'm hesitant to use universal terms because there are always ppl smart enough to figure it out both men & women but as a general rule I do think you are right about most American women, regardless of race or socio-economic status. For the richer ones, its more just a straight turn on thrill kinda thing. A stupid dumb animalistic thing. For poorer women there is some of that but its also they may feel severely vulnerable & thus seek 'strength' & 'protection' from a man who may appear to be strong but who ends up beating the hell out of her & turning his faux-strength onto her.
But yeah, there's a lot of women who will never find 'the right one' because frankly put, he doesn't exist. And they end up bouncing around hoping to find the right guy but only end up with schlubs or ex-con idiots who abuse them.
To borrow your 'waiting for godot' analogy -- about 2 years ago I was over @ a friend's & we were playing beer pong/having a good time. One of the guys we were with -- his wife came in later with her fat friend, who was smaller than his wife but who was still considerably overweight. And even then if a chick is chunky but good lookin in the face -- you think twice, you know what I'm saying? I dunno what her personality was like as I didn't talk to her much but me & some of the guys heard her take the guy's wife into the corner & we heard her ask "which one of them is a doctor?"
And we waited for them to leave before we busted out laughing. Again, I'm not going to comment on her personality as I don't know her but my lord I couldnt stop laughing. This woman was like a 2.5 or a 3 on a 10 scale, & I'm being nice when I say that. She acted like she wasn't trailer trash but her looks couldn't tell you otherwise. And I felt terribly sorry for her @ the same time I was busting out laughing my ass off @ her.
A doctor? Really? Her expectations were so high she expected a doctor? I wanted to say 'honey, doctors date the women who were cheerleaders in high school, they don't date girls like you.' But I had a feeling her mother had pumped her self-esteem up to such a level where she was completely & totally delusional & that her sky-high expectations were in for a long & nasty sobering up by reality.
I mean I almost felt like a bastard even thinking about it but I felt like somebody owed her the duty to bring her down to earth. That SHE was the one like ugly men -- SHE had to earn the money to get the hot man, not the other way around. I mean who knows maybe she could be lucky & get her prince charming & be that lucky girl.
But -- c'mon is that really gonna happen?
I feel both deep sympathy & baffling puzzling as how so many ppl can delude themselves & buy into the bull#### myth of both the American Dream, assuming it still exists & that every Joe, D-ck, Dave, Sally & Susan will somehow 'make it' & become a rich mogul or Kardashian. When in reality they'll probably end up scrubbing toilets or tending bar for chump change @ age 45. But also the delusional nonsense that for every Sally, Susan, & Stephanie there's a Cinderella story where she gets some dood who looks like David Beckham or Matt Damon & who has the same amt. of money to boot. Its just a MASSIVE bull#### cultural con game. We are lying to ourselves & deluding ourselves to such a level that its scary.
If ppl actually woke up & smelled the roses or the coffee & realized how fuuuuuudgeed up most of their lives are, we'd have mass shootings & all kinds of anarchy.
Ppl in this country must suppress a lot of fuuuuuudgein rage & pent up frustration given they never seem to attain even a tenth of their intended dreams as their dreams are so incoherent & so sky-high in their expectation of glory that they can't even begin to have a sober understanding of what they should expect. And usually the ppl who do figure it out, figure out WAY too late in life, after years of dejection & failure & half-wins that never really get them to their intended destination. The rich ppl in this country & the media are amazingly efficient in this carrot-and-stick bull#### where they keep ppl chasing after phony dreams that don't exist & frankly can't & probably won't exist for 90+% of ppl. Its scary, that's all I'm gonna say on the topic.
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