Rants

[scoobdog]

Wow.  She seemed rather uncomfortable with her own response, like she isn't buying her own rhetoric.

[RoadWorrier]

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scoobdog wrote:
Wow.  She seemed rather uncomfortable with her own response, like she isn't buying her own rhetoric.

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God only knows what she's thinking . . . . .

[scoobdog]

She's thinking about 2012.  Of course she believes that attacking abortion clinics is at least justifiable in principle.  She just isn't smart enough to know when to keep her mouth shut.

[RHSwrestler]

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

[KillerDevdasi]

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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terrorism is often, if not always, an act of violence meant to both kill off people they don't like and send a message. And often people who bomb abortion clinics search for justification in religion for their actions. I'd say they have a lot in common with what we would label terrorism.

Its small scale in comparison...but they are pretty similar.

[scarIet_billows]

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KillerDevdasi wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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terrorism is often, if not always, an act of violence meant to both kill off people they don't like and send a message. And often people who bomb abortion clinics search for justification in religion for their actions. I'd say they have a lot in common with what we would label terrorism.

Its small scale in comparison...but they are pretty similar.

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i agree, and giving the way this nation gets its panties in a bunch about the loss of any american life, i don't see why the 7 people who have been killed by abortion clinich bombings should be considered any less of a loss than anyone who died on 9/11.

[RHSwrestler]

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KillerDevdasi wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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terrorism is often, if not always, an act of violence meant to both kill off people they don't like and send a message. And often people who bomb abortion clinics search for justification in religion for their actions. I'd say they have a lot in common with what we would label terrorism.

Its small scale in comparison...but they are pretty similar.

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I would label abortion-clinic bombers as terrorists. I would say that what they do is terrorism. I would say that what they do is just as wrong as blowing up an elementary school.

 

But I would still be a little uncomfortable comparing them with the 9/11 terrorists. 

  

[KillerDevdasi]

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RHSwrestler wrote:

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KillerDevdasi wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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terrorism is often, if not always, an act of violence meant to both kill off people they don't like and send a message. And often people who bomb abortion clinics search for justification in religion for their actions. I'd say they have a lot in common with what we would label terrorism.

Its small scale in comparison...but they are pretty similar.

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I would label abortion-clinic bombers as terrorists. I would say that what they do is terrorism. I would say that what they do is just as wrong as blowing up an elementary school.

But I would still be a little uncomfortable comparing them with the 9/11 terrorists. 

  

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If you want to say that Al-Queda is on more of a global murder spree...then fine, Al-Queda is "worse" in that sense.  

but, I still I think you're splitting hairs. They're people who kill people whose actions they don't agree with. I'd say they have plenty in common.  

[scarIet_billows]

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RHSwrestler wrote:

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KillerDevdasi wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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terrorism is often, if not always, an act of violence meant to both kill off people they don't like and send a message. And often people who bomb abortion clinics search for justification in religion for their actions. I'd say they have a lot in common with what we would label terrorism.

Its small scale in comparison...but they are pretty similar.

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I would label abortion-clinic bombers as terrorists. I would say that what they do is terrorism. I would say that what they do is just as wrong as blowing up an elementary school.

 

But I would still be a little uncomfortable comparing them with the 9/11 terrorists. 

  

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why? because they don't have the guts to kill themselves in the process when they leave pipe bombs behind? yeah, if that's the case, they're not in the same league as the men who pulled off 9/11. however, they make and execute plans to kill and maim to deny freedoms and scare people into giving up their way of life, so i don't see how they're any different. it's still violence and murder on a mass scare with the same intentions. terrorism is terrorism. 9/11 wasn't special.

[RHSwrestler]

The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

[scarIet_billows]

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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what? how do you figure? the only threat to our freedom are the people who are intimidated by terror tactics. personally, i find people who would kill me for exercising my specific right to an abortion a much bigger threat to my safety and freedom given their prevalence and targeted agenda that actually seeks to revoke a specific piece of my liberty.

[scoobdog]

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scarIet_billows wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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what? how do you figure? the only threat to our freedom are the people who are intimidated by terror tactics. personally, i find people who would kill me for exercising my specific right to an abortion a much bigger threat to my safety and freedom given their prevalence and targeted agenda that actually seeks to revoke a specific piece of my liberty.

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 Terrorism isn't really a thing of magnitude, is it?  If you take one right or many rights by an act of violence, doesn't the act itself have equal magnitude with every other terrorist act?  It's not like you can take one freedom away an not affect the integrity of society.

[RHSwrestler]

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scarIet_billows wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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what? how do you figure? the only threat to our freedom are the people who are intimidated by terror tactics. personally, i find people who would kill me for exercising my specific right to an abortion a much bigger threat to my safety and freedom given their prevalence and targeted agenda that actually seeks to revoke a specific piece of my liberty.

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I'm talking about the general freedom of the people.

 

Of course I might be a little biased because of my opinions on abortion, but that is entirely besides the point.  

[RHSwrestler]

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scoobdog wrote:

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scarIet_billows wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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what? how do you figure? the only threat to our freedom are the people who are intimidated by terror tactics. personally, i find people who would kill me for exercising my specific right to an abortion a much bigger threat to my safety and freedom given their prevalence and targeted agenda that actually seeks to revoke a specific piece of my liberty.

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 Terrorism isn't really a thing of magnitude, is it?  If you take one right or many rights by an act of violence, doesn't the act itself have equal magnitude with every other terrorist act?  It's not like you can take one freedom away an not affect the integrity of society.

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The greater the magnitude of the attack the greater the terror, the greater the terror the greater the threat to freedom.  

[RoadWorrier]

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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Did I?

[RoadWorrier]

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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LOL. How are terrorist threatening our freedom? How are they taking our rights away?

[RoadWorrier]

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RHSwrestler wrote:

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scarIet_billows wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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what? how do you figure? the only threat to our freedom are the people who are intimidated by terror tactics. personally, i find people who would kill me for exercising my specific right to an abortion a much bigger threat to my safety and freedom given their prevalence and targeted agenda that actually seeks to revoke a specific piece of my liberty.

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I'm talking about the general freedom of the people.

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What does that mean, exactly?

[RoadWorrier]

What word is missing in this story?

Category: Evil

I'm sure everyone has already heard about the plot to murder Obama and many others:

Two white supremacists allegedly plotted to go on a national killing spree, shooting and decapitating black people and ultimately targeting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, federal authorities said Monday.

In all, the two men whom officials described as neo-Nazi skinheads planned to kill 88 people - 14 by beheading, according to files unsealed in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn.

It's a horrible and sordid story of idiots with guns, but in scanning the various news sources, there is a curious but obvious word missing — a word that normally our media and government fling about with unscrupulous abandon.

That word is "terrorism".

Doesn't it strike you as peculiar that white homegrown right-wing fascist killers are somehow exempt from being called what they are — terrorists?

[SaugusHagar]

the funny thing is, they haven't actually done anythhing

soooo, yeah.

I like your sig by the way

[MasterPun]

They were plotting a large scale act of Terrorism.
But no, I am wrong.
Let's just call their murderous plot, uh... planning and organizing Obama's inauguration party instead.

[RHSwrestler]

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RoadWorrier wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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Did I?

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I believe so. Someone on the thread did.

[RHSwrestler]

Terrorism is used to inspire fear in people, in order to frighten us into doing stupid things, like making it illegal to be Muslim or illegal to be from the Middle East. Terrorism is a direct attack on liberty.

[RHSwrestler]

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RoadWorrier wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

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scarIet_billows wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:
The islamo-fascist terrorists are a much greater threat to freedom than abortion clinic bombers. That's all I'm saying.

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what? how do you figure? the only threat to our freedom are the people who are intimidated by terror tactics. personally, i find people who would kill me for exercising my specific right to an abortion a much bigger threat to my safety and freedom given their prevalence and targeted agenda that actually seeks to revoke a specific piece of my liberty.

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I'm talking about the general freedom of the people.

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What does that mean, exactly?

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Everyone's freedom to live their daily lives how they want. 

[RoadWorrier]

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SaugusHagar wrote:

the funny thing is, they haven't actually done anythhing

soooo, yeah.

I like your sig by the way

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Funny thing is, you don't have to actually do anything. Remember the Miami Seven or whatever?

And thanks, you can give Phooey the credit for that one.

[RoadWorrier]

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RHSwrestler wrote:

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RoadWorrier wrote:

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RHSwrestler wrote:

While bombing abortion clinic is technically terrorism, and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I find it a little odd that you would compare a bombed abortion clinic to 9/11...

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Did I?

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I believe so. Someone on the thread did.

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Ah, so I am Everyone. Nice try, Cesar.