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naraku361
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

naraku361 wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

and i dont feel "terrible" or any guilt at all.... :-/ 



Case and point, why you're a terrible person.

 

You don't have to protect someone else's relationship, but that doesn't mean you should intentionally go out of your way to do things that you know can wreak it.


in what way have i ever gone intentionally out of my way?

 

stop making things up in your head, dear

 

also, i knew you couldnt resist :smileytongue:



If you know they're taken and not in an open relationship, doing much of anything with them is no different from going out of your way to put their relationship at risk.

 

It's not your immediate intention to ruin their marriage. You're seeking immediate self gratification. The problem is you also know fully that if his wife finds out, they're over. It isn't any better than going out of your way to do it.

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:
you're responsible for your actions though. if you know that someone is married or in a relationship and you sleep with them or whatever, then you are in fact contributing to the demise, or at the very least, the downward spiral, of that relationship. 


and i should care because???? 




yea, i'm pretty sure i said that you don't have to care. guess you missed that part? so yea, you don't have to care. have fun with that whole being a terrible person thing.

whys it make me a terrible person tho? who am i hurting??




um, the person that your fuuuuuudge toy is married to. how do you not get that?

i dont have any married boytoys

 

one is engaged tho

 

and in what way am i hurting her? and in what way is HE not hurting her? 

 

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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naraku361 wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

naraku361 wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

and i dont feel "terrible" or any guilt at all.... :-/ 



Case and point, why you're a terrible person.

 

You don't have to protect someone else's relationship, but that doesn't mean you should intentionally go out of your way to do things that you know can wreak it.


in what way have i ever gone intentionally out of my way?

 

stop making things up in your head, dear

 

also, i knew you couldnt resist :smileytongue:



If you know they're taken and not in an open relationship, doing much of anything with them is no different from going out of your way to put their relationship at risk.

 

It's not your immediate intention to ruin their marriage. You're seeking immediate self gratification. The problem is you also know fully that if his wife finds out, they're over. It isn't any better than going out of your way to do it.



theres no going out of my way.. that would mean actively persuing .. even after the guy says no.. then convincing him in some way which has never happened

 

but guys DO go out of their way.. its their decision theyve made. and face it - truly in the end, i face no detriment

once that decision is made within the confines of the relationship - its made. it has nothing to do with me no matter how much people want to think it does 

 

 

 

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naraku361
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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That's only because you're not thinking of anyone beyond yourself.
No, it doesn't harm you in any way.
But it has been established that it could hurt the person's significant other.

It isn't about you, so you might want to stop making it out to be.
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:
you're responsible for your actions though. if you know that someone is married or in a relationship and you sleep with them or whatever, then you are in fact contributing to the demise, or at the very least, the downward spiral, of that relationship. 


and i should care because???? 




yea, i'm pretty sure i said that you don't have to care. guess you missed that part? so yea, you don't have to care. have fun with that whole being a terrible person thing.

whys it make me a terrible person tho? who am i hurting??




um, the person that your fuuuuuudge toy is married to. how do you not get that?

i dont have any married boytoys

 

one is engaged tho

 

and in what way am i hurting her? and in what way is HE not hurting her? 

 




you can't be serious. ok, first of all, i never said that HE wasn't hurting anyone. he is, but you aren't innocent either. if you're #### him or whatever, then you're contributing to the thing that is hurting her. he's not #### himself, he's #### you. so, you're hurting her by participating in his cheating. you know that, i doubt that you're that stupid [i hope], you just don't care. and that's fine. if you don't care about other people, that's on you. but don't act all innocent and stupid about it. that whole "but i don't understand how me #### someone who is with someone else is hurting their spouse/fiance/girlfriend" crap is just ridiculous. if you're gonna mess around with men who are taken, you don't get to act innocent. no one is buying it.
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naraku361 wrote:
That's only because you're not thinking of anyone beyond yourself.
No, it doesn't harm you in any way.
But it has been established that it could hurt the person's significant other.

It isn't about you, so you might want to stop making it out to be.

ok so its all about her and i should care so significantly about someone else, whom i dont know and might never met, but should alter my actions in thought of them anyway just because it may or may not be of benefit to them?

 

ok, gotcha.. even though that makes no goddamn sense whatsoever

 

:smileyvery-happy:

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:
you're responsible for your actions though. if you know that someone is married or in a relationship and you sleep with them or whatever, then you are in fact contributing to the demise, or at the very least, the downward spiral, of that relationship. 


and i should care because???? 




yea, i'm pretty sure i said that you don't have to care. guess you missed that part? so yea, you don't have to care. have fun with that whole being a terrible person thing.

whys it make me a terrible person tho? who am i hurting??




um, the person that your fuuuuuudge toy is married to. how do you not get that?

i dont have any married boytoys

 

one is engaged tho

 

and in what way am i hurting her? and in what way is HE not hurting her? 

 




you can't be serious. ok, first of all, i never said that HE wasn't hurting anyone. he is, but you aren't innocent either. if you're #### him or whatever, then you're contributing to the thing that is hurting her. he's not #### himself, he's #### you. so, you're hurting her by participating in his cheating. you know that, i doubt that you're that stupid [i hope], you just don't care. and that's fine. if you don't care about other people, that's on you. but don't act all innocent and stupid about it. that whole "but i don't understand how me #### someone who is with someone else is hurting their spouse/fiance/girlfriend" crap is just ridiculous. if you're gonna mess around with men who are taken, you don't get to act innocent. no one is buying it.

in what way am i acting innocent? I thought the question is in way what am i directly hurting anyone and in what way does that make ME awful 

 

i just dont see what his cheating with me or someone else has anything to do with me or is anything i can control no more than i can control him having a gf or not. do you not see how having a girlfriend and cheating on her are all decisions of his initiated by him. you are asking me to somehow reign some control or responsibility on something i cannot possibly control or be responsible for. 

 

my only fault, indirectly is knowing about it but as i have pointed it - i could just as easily NOT know   - which is my point that that person can not cause or prevent cheating.. and them knowing or not knowing does not make them responsible in anyway in what happens in a relationship that does not include them

 

 

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm* or the one NOT in a "committed" reationship bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me....

Could you put this into a more...complete and proper sentence? Then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make.

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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you have to be joking...
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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SuchABadPenny wrote:

fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm* or the one NOT in a "committed" reationship bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me....

Could you put this into a more...complete and proper sentence? Then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make.





fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm*, or the one NOT in the "committed" relationship, bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me or them....



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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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Saddy wrote:
you have to be joking...

nope. 

 

you seem to be projecting the responsibility of an obviously failing relationship on the actions on an uninvolved outside 3rd party.... so you must be joking about that.

 

 

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

SuchABadPenny wrote:

fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm* or the one NOT in a "committed" reationship bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me....

Could you put this into a more...complete and proper sentence? Then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make.





fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm*, or the one NOT in the "committed" relationship, bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me or them....




...your grasp on the English language is disheartening. Since you can't even state your thought clearly, I'm just going to assume whatever Saddy said is right. If you wanna say she's wrong, try to argue with full sentences. You might make better points.

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

naraku361 wrote:
That's only because you're not thinking of anyone beyond yourself.
No, it doesn't harm you in any way.
But it has been established that it could hurt the person's significant other.

It isn't about you, so you might want to stop making it out to be.

ok so its all about her and i should care so significantly about someone else, whom i dont know and might never met, but should alter my actions in thought of them anyway just because it may or may not be of benefit to them?

 

ok, gotcha.. even though that makes no goddamn sense whatsoever

 

:smileyvery-happy:


 

Before you question the relevence of this post, answer the question. If you don't understand the point after the next couple exchanges, I'll explain:

 

If you saw someone get hit by a truck. The truck just drives off and the person is clearly alive, but badly injured.

 

You don't know the person, they look a little on the poor side so helping them might not get you any money, and now that his entire lower body is destroyed, he probably won't be able to put out for a while. There isn't much indication that any real gain would come from doing anything.

 

Do you help him?

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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naraku361 wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

naraku361 wrote:
That's only because you're not thinking of anyone beyond yourself.
No, it doesn't harm you in any way.
But it has been established that it could hurt the person's significant other.

It isn't about you, so you might want to stop making it out to be.

ok so its all about her and i should care so significantly about someone else, whom i dont know and might never met, but should alter my actions in thought of them anyway just because it may or may not be of benefit to them?

 

ok, gotcha.. even though that makes no goddamn sense whatsoever

 

:smileyvery-happy:


 

Before you question the relevence of this post, answer the question. If you don't understand the point after the next couple exchanges, I'll explain:

 

If you saw someone get hit by a truck. The truck just drives off and the person is clearly alive, but badly injured.

 

You don't know the person, they look a little on the poor side so helping them might not get you any money, and now that his entire lower body is destroyed, he probably won't be able to put out for a while. There isn't much indication that any real gain would come from doing anything.

 

Do you help him?


nope. i am not trained well enough to help a person so severly injured as being hit by a truck. id call the paramedics.

 

soo

what's your point?

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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SuchABadPenny wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

SuchABadPenny wrote:

fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm* or the one NOT in a "committed" reationship bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me....

Could you put this into a more...complete and proper sentence? Then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make.





fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm*, or the one NOT in the "committed" relationship, bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me or them....




...your grasp on the English language is disheartening. Since you can't even state your thought clearly, I'm just going to assume whatever Saddy said is right. If you wanna say she's wrong, try to argue with full sentences. You might make better points.


funny how even saddy and everyone else had no problem responding to it. just you. so i doubt you could understand the issue enough to have a conversation about it anyway. bye!

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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I thought you didn't care about anyone you didn't know.

Why'd you call the paramedics?
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:
you have to be joking...

nope. 

 

you seem to be projecting the responsibility of an obviously failing relationship on the actions on an uninvolved outside 3rd party.... so you must be joking about that.

 

 




how do you not get that your actions affect other people? i mean, i just don't understand how you fail to get that. i'm not projecting anything. if you have sex with someone who is in a relationship, you share the responsibility for whatever happens as a result. what you do has a very real effect on other people whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. the minute you let some dude who is married, engaged or whatever, stick his peen inside you, you cease to be an uninvolved party. you are now involved in their relationship whether you like it or choose to acknowledge it or not. :smileyindifferent:
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

Reply to fugglesss - Message ID#: 64294389

Poor poor poor poor poor poor poor choice of words. By participating in an action that should by convention be exclusive to the married couple, you are in fact involving your self in their problems. Perhaps they may have worked it out. Maybe not. But willfully ignoring your role in their marital problems, or relationship problems is at best deluded, and at worste, just completely detached from reality. And your Involvement robs them of that chance to reconcile.

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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Reply to fugglesss - Message ID#: 64287791

Sure, I'll play along, why not.

Just to make sure I understand your jumbled OP: You're saying that when a man who has a girlfriend/fiancee/wife* has sex with you, you feel you're not to blame at all for his cheatin' ways. (Edit, for further clarity:) And his committed relationship has nothing at all to do with you while you're having sex with him. Right?

If yes: psh, that's the excuse all girls-on-the-side cough up. Well, girls who aren't trying to get men to leave their girlfriends/fiancees or divorce their wives, anyway.

The guy's committed relationship has something to do with you the moment you spread your legs for him. You are now the 3rd wheel in his (now 3-way) relationship. That's right, you're part of a threesome, and chances are his committed girlfriend/fiancee/wife is an unwilling (or unknowing) participant.

Sharing a guy with another girl means:

  • You and she are able to pass diseases or illnesses to each other through him.

  • Any money he spends on you might hurt his & his wife's finances (assuming he's married and they have a joint account).

  • If he impregnates you & you keep the baby, he's probably on the hook for child support—which dips into that joint financial situation again, and also makes you & your kid a bigger part of his life, much to his wife/fiancee/girlfriend's dismay.


It means other things too, but I'll stop there.

About that 3rd bullet: Sure, you could tell him you & the baby don't need his money, but what if he wants to be a part of his kid's life? That's his right, as the father. If you don't want him in the kid's life, you should've thought about that before you voluntarily fcked him, knowing that he was already in a committed relationship.

Anyway: The guy is definitely to blame for his affair with you. If you knew he was in a relationship when you decided to have sex with him, then you're not some innocent bystander. You're the 3rd wheel of his threesome and, as a willing participant, you shoulder some of the blame if his committed relationship falls apart as a result.



*Eh, it could also be boyfriend/fiance/husband.
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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The more of your posts I read, the more you sound like a genuine sociopath.

You seem genuinely incapable of caring about other people.
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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

SuchABadPenny wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

SuchABadPenny wrote:

fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm* or the one NOT in a "committed" reationship bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me....

Could you put this into a more...complete and proper sentence? Then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make.





fugglesss wrote:
First off ill start with the fact that I do not feel *i'm*, or the one NOT in the "committed" relationship, bear ANY responsibility at all for the maintenance or protection of a relationship that has nothing to do with me or them....




...your grasp on the English language is disheartening. Since you can't even state your thought clearly, I'm just going to assume whatever Saddy said is right. If you wanna say she's wrong, try to argue with full sentences. You might make better points.


funny how even saddy and everyone else had no problem responding to it. just you. so i doubt you could understand the issue enough to have a conversation about it anyway. bye!


You grammar is horrific. I have no doubt saddy and everyone else cringed at your grammar, punctuation, and spelling, but chose not to comment on it because they decided the point you were trying to make was even more abominable.

Well somebody has to stand up for lady English.

You managed create a run-on sentence with subject-verb disagreement (I think that's what you call it? "I am not bear"?), you failed to use a single comma or punctuation of any kind other than inappropriate asterisks, and you peppered the entire thing with capital letters and quotation marks that make it even more garishly unreadable.

No, I understand what you're saying (that cheating with people is a-okay as long as you don't give a #### about whoever you're hurting); but you will not defile the english language this way and get off the hook with it.

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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dont hate the player hate the game. i agree w/fugglesss. ur all crazy

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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what is the game exaclty

is it 2c who can invent herpititus 1st?

w/their crotch

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:


Saddy wrote:
you have to be joking...

nope. 


 


you seem to be projecting the responsibility of an obviously failing relationship on the actions on an uninvolved outside 3rd party.... so you must be joking about that.


 


 




the minute you willingly engage in sexual acts with someone you know is cheating then you become involved. the moment you act like you aren't at fault or are in no way responsible is the moment you become a terrible person

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Re: illicit and discreet affairs

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fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:

fugglesss wrote:

Saddy wrote:
you're responsible for your actions though. if you know that someone is married or in a relationship and you sleep with them or whatever, then you are in fact contributing to the demise, or at the very least, the downward spiral, of that relationship. 


and i should care because???? 




yea, i'm pretty sure i said that you don't have to care. guess you missed that part? so yea, you don't have to care. have fun with that whole being a terrible person thing.

whys it make me a terrible person tho? who am i hurting??


Their wives and maybe children. Commitments have more than just two people involved, there's families and reputations.

 

Let's look at this at a legal stand point. Let's say you're #### around with a married man who has children. He worked his whole life for his nice cars, big house, and bloated bank account. The wife finds about his affair and files for divorce due to adultery. Even if he had the best lawyer, he will loose everything because he broke a contact (which is what marriage is). After she's done milking his money teat, she can and if she's smart, will turn her sights on you and bleed you dry for willfully committing adultery with a married man and contributing to the destruction of a marriage, which is a crime.

 

I alot of people dont know this is law, but it very much is. Also, you got caught and taken to court due to your actions, DFACS will come down on you for amoral behavior and look for any reason to remove your daughter from you. Considering the fact you dump her off on your mom regularly, that's all they need.

 

Not to mention husbands killing off their mistresses after they get bored with them or wives killing their husbands mistresses because they have too much to lose.

 

Point is, someone's always getting hurt. Maybe not be you or him, but someone is.

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