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Kei Pirate
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Dethroning Moment of S*ck is what s*cks

Normally I don't visit TV Tropes, but I did earlier today because I was bored. As usual, no updates on the usual pages. So I went and visited the Simpsons page for Dethroning Moment of S*ck. Nothing special, just the usual arguments. However, something caught my eye: a page for Robot Chicken. I wondered what the harm would be in looking at it. The answer: a lot of skits I haven't seen before that made me question Seth Green's decisions.

 

Namely, the sketches I read about included ones I have seen like the child abuse in the Pop Rocks and Soda sketch, the Ron Jeremy butter churning sketch, Yoshi getting attacked by the denizens of Raccoon City, and the Monkey Batman sketch. But then there were some that I've never even seen or heard of: Darkwing Duck getting cooked alive in a Chinese Restaurant, the Joker getting executed in a gruesome manner, an audience killing themselves over the boringness of STOMP, an anachronistic and unfunny Harry Potter sketch, Strawberry Shortcake blaming another character's b*tchiness on Aspergers (which I have, and yes, I do get b*tchy at times because of it, but only after eating certain things), and the overall claim that the recent seasons could be called "A Bunch of Unfunny Death and Sex Gross-Out Jokes".

 

Of course, I've held my belief that the community of TV Tropes are a bunch of idiots with bad judges of character (to the point where I had to delete an entry in their So Bad It's Horrible section on Master of Martial Hearts), and I stopped reading the Dethroning Moment of S*ck pages after reading about how one guy thinks that one or two King of the Hill episodes claim that Mike Judge loves dogs and hates all other pets (remember that the first Beavis and Butthead short had "Dog Baseball"), but now... could these guys dumb enough to blame Seth Green for the s*ckiness and grossness of their recent sketches rather than those who actually wrote them (like they blame Seth MacFarlane for various Family Guy episodes when they should be blaming the writers) actually be right?

 

So I decided to ask, in my opinion, the community I trust the most when it comes to entertainment such as RC: the Robot Chicken board here on the ASMB. So is it true that Robot Chicken has gotten to the point of being unwatchable and outright disgusting beyond all belief? Or are the Order of TV Tropers (minus those that I know from here and trust) being ignorant as usual?

 

The answer lies with you.

Clyde
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Critics tend to get more notice when they hate something. And it's usually painfully easy to toss out jabs at things, especially if there's even the tiniest possibility that someone else will take up the hate call.

 

I'll just add my couple o' half-pennies on the sketches that you noted that you haven't seen along with my take on it - WARNING - SPOILER GALORE BECAUSE HIDING THEM WOULD BE KINDA POINTLESS FOR THE LENGTH OF THE REPLY. Sorry in advance...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Darkwing Duck - that was part of one of their Michael Moore 'documentaries' about 90's characters that seem to have fallen off the grid. Gossalin [Drake's little duckling niece[?] ] turns out to be sick and needs medical attention. The only way for Darkwing to get enough money for her is to sell himself to a Chinese restuarante. I honestly took that as a dig at the rising costs of medical care and how it's getting to the point where you're almost worth more dead than alive to pay for this kind of thing. It's something I can relate to first hand because I'm still paying for my jaw surgeries years after the fact and because the initial costs of being in the hospital for my heart were so much, I haven't been able to go back for anymore check-ups. Just bite the asprin and hope that if I collapse, it's someplace I'll be found before I start to turn to goo.

 

The Joker getting executed - this is a skit where the Joker gets caught by the Batman in an abandoned building and gets his arse royally kicked in. But Batman stops at what could be the killing blow because that would be crossing the moral line and instead announces that he's taking the Joker to jail. At which the Joker replies that he'll just get out like always, go on another spree, get caught, go back to jail, rinse, repeat ad nauseum. So Batman goes to court himself and gives the ultimate testimony that gets the Joker the death penalty. When a prisoner is put in ol' sparky in real life, a wet sponge is usually placed between the skull and the helmet to help ensure that the electricity conducts as quickly and as painlessly as is possible considering you're being electrocuted. But the execution goes wrong because it turns out that both Commissioner Gordon and Batman have made sure there was no sponge and the Joker fries for a very long and painful moment because of it. Again, if I had to look at this as something other than wish-fullfillment [who hasn't wondered why the Joker has never gotten the death penalty? Insanity can only carry you so far ] I took this as a dig at the revolving door system of the prisons and the continued failure to do anything about those criminals who have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no such thing as rehabilitation.

 

The audience suicides at STOMP - people sitting in a theater while people beat the hell out of trash cans and anything else they can make noise finally realize that they paid money for something they wouldn't even allow in their own homes. Turns out that the repetitive noises of people stomping out of the theater and getting a refund or just plain killing themselves are almost more musically rhythmic than the STOMP presentation. When I saw that skit, what I thought of was how sometimes following what's popular is the only thing that makes it popular. Lots of people go to shows like STOMP because the critics loved it, not because it was actually anything mindblowingly new. They pay money [and lots of it] for, as one person in the skit noted "something I can watch my kids do at home for free" .

 

The unfunny Harry Potter sketch - that's probably the most recent one where Harry Potter and his friends are at Hogwarts and begin to realize that the stuff they are learning allow for very little room for errors - especially after Ron adds only one extra drop to his potion and it causes his head to explode rather than just change the color of his eyes and Neville is attacked by his own hand that turns into a monkey head when he was mispronounces a spell to make an orchid appear. Harry and Hermione end up transferring to a public school in the US thinking it's got to be safer than Hogwarts but Hermione ends up getting cyber-bullied so badly she hangs herself. When the kids in the school hear that, they dance while Harry looks on stunned. Direct swing at how embarassingly crappy and out-of-touch our public schools are and especially the kids where it's become almost acceptable for bullying to result in students killing themselves. I immediately thought of that one girl [Prince] who had just moved to the states and was literally bullied to death a few years back. It's kind of sad that public schools are more dangerous than a school where people would learn to blast holes in walls just by pointing a stick.

 

Strawberry Shortcake and the Aspergers comment - oh yeah, this one. :smileyvery-happy: This was the sketch where Strawberry Shortcake is explaining to Baby Needs-a-Name how important it is to get a good and proper name because a name helps make you who you are. And then Bitch Pudding barges in with her usual attitude, goes to the fridge for a drink, wanders out, and then bursts back in yelling to Baby "Your name is COCKFACE! Blam!" Facepalm moment. :smileyvery-happy: Strawberry Shortcake tries to explain away Bitch Pudding's problem by including a 'maybe she has Aspergers or something' and that they'll find Baby a real name but it's too late. Baby replies that her name is now Cockface. Bitch Pudding strikes again. I didn't even see that as a swipe at Aspergers, I saw it as a toss-away comment. They probably could have substituted time of the month for Aspergers and it wouldn't have changed the tone a bit. I'm thinking Aspergers was used because it's been in the news a lot as more and more people become informed about it and Bitch Pudding has always been portrayed as someone who doesn't read social cues for what is acceptable in certain situations and can be quite blunt in her statements [both of which are things that tend to fall in varying degrees within the Aspergers category].

 

There's probably a whole lot of things I could pick apart and analysis in the RC universe if I really got going. :smileyvery-happy:

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That's all I needed; thank you for your reply.

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Robot Chicken was always bad. Not because of gross-out humor. Just because it is legitimately unfunny.
Kei Pirate
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My question's been answered; I don't need your trolling.

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GrubmanGrundy wrote:
Robot Chicken was always bad. Not because of gross-out humor. Just because it is legitimately unfunny.

While I'm fairly certain you are just a throw-away alt created to be the anti-fan in any show board you particularly don't like, I'll play along, welcome you to the Robot Chicken board and give you some helpful advice to help you continue to exist past the SwimNub rank and beyond. :smileywink:

 

Differences of opinion are welcome, especially in any show board that I either am directly keyed to because I'm all for differences. They keep things interesting. But there's a few things that are 'requested' of the anti-fans in what normally are fan boards.

 

First, civility towards the fans [and vice versa too. Civility candies for everyone! ] . That means not going into whichever thread you feel like, failing to note the exact nature of the opening post, and posting any drive-by negative comments that you feel like posting. I would presume that you wouldn't like that kind of behavior being aimed at show[s] you like so why do that kind of thing at all?

 

And secondly, criticisms are welcome but they need to be constructive otherwise they are just pointless. If all someone can say is 'show x sucks' and run away, that's not a discussion. It's graffitti. And not even the kinda cool looking graffitti that you sorta feel bad appreciating because it's still defacing something - it's the crappy, 'I failed kindergarden' kinda scrawl garbage done by someone who apparently can afford expensive little-g clothing and Air Jordans to slouch about in but not even a frickin' piece of rope to hold their pants up.

 

Those are basically the basics to surviving the show boards. Your results may vary. :smileywink:

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Maybe it's my advanced age or maybe because I remember when Beavis and Butthead first came out and I think they vacuumed a cat or something like that which got everybody up in arms because it was so offensive, but I just don't understand why anyone would care what the content of an animated show is?  It seems like the mentality is stuck in Saturday morning cartoons. Then, when cartoons became aimed at adults, which I suppose the Simpsons was among the first for that, then everybody got all wound up because they couldn't wrap their head around the animated format combined with adult themed content. And when South Park became nothing but all about offending people, that's when I said forget it. 

 

I like Robot Chicken much more now then I did in the early days when nearly all the references about 80s toys for boys went over my head. I'd rather see Ron Jeremy churning butter because I understand it. I understand gross out better I suppose.   

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