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[TheBigOFan72]

Currently this is being simulcasted on Crunchyroll and NicoNico (Episodes are up for only one week.).

This is the prequel to Fate/stay night which probably won't ever air on [adult swim] (Heavily seen, out on DVD for too long.) so it's safe to say they wouldn't have to play that to play this.

This I can say would be a gamble, but with how there are less and less shows coming out of Japan that would work, and how [as] will soon have to choose from many of those if they want to air a new anime, it's worth a shot.

How it's a gamble is episode 1 is 47 minutes, is dialogue heavy, lacks much action, and can be kinda confusing. Now starting with episode 2 the episodes are 23 minutes, but there still isn't all that much action. Episode 3 hasn't aired in Japan yet, so I can't say for sure if it would work for sure on [as], but from episodes 1 and 2 it's a gamble.

Anyway so far Fate/Zero is pretty good (Still doesn't mean the [as] audience will.) so far. It has absolutely amazing animation, and it's setting itself up for something good. Now I haven't seen Fate/stay night so I'm not exactly sure what to expect, but it probably will end up with a great story.

[DemandingAnime]

If it gets dubbed then sure, air it.

I was planning on watching Fate/Stay NIght at some point anyway. This will just sort of "complete" it I guess.

[TheBigOFan72]

It probably will as FUNimation most likely will get it since they distributed Fate/stay night for Geneon. Though legal issues have caused that title to go out of print until who knows when unfortunately. This though while a risk, it's worth a shot since [as] has fewer options of anime coming out of Japan to choose from that could work.

(On a side-note, I'm really liking how you're posting now. This is a big improvement.)

[DemandingAnime]

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TheBigOFan72 wrote:

It probably will as FUNimation most likely will get it since they distributed Fate/stay night for Geneon. Though legal issues have caused that title to go out of print until who knows when unfortunately. This though while a risk, it's worth a shot since [as] has fewer options of anime coming out of Japan to choose from that could work.

(On a side-note, I'm really liking how you're posting now. This is a big improvement.)

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That **beast**. Can you still buy it? I WAS planning on buying Fate/Stay Night, along with the rest of the anime I like, when I finally get the money to that is.

:'-(

[TheBigOFan72]

You can, but only for inflated prices for now that is unfortunately. Cheapest you can get the last release is for $144.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002FOQXQ4/animenewsnetw-2
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I'd wait for it to go back into print (Who knows how long that Geneon Universal merger will last. Once that's done, hopefully it'll go back into print.) because personally I think it would be stupid to spend that much money on it when the money goes to the seller only, and it's much, much higher than the MSRP. Luckily most titles you've watched are in print, and even if many aren't in print, they're probably not going for like $100 like some shows that are out of print go for. Only the real popular shows go for that much like Sailor Moon and When They Cry.

[DemandingAnime]

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TheBigOFan72 wrote:

You can, but only for inflated prices for now that is unfortunately. Cheapest you can get the last release is for $144.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002FOQXQ4/animenewsnetw-2
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I'd wait for it to go back into print (Who knows how long that Geneon Universal merger will last. Once that's done, hopefully it'll go back into print.) because personally I think it would be stupid to spend that much money on it when the money goes to the seller only, and it's much, much higher than the MSRP. Luckily most titles you've watched are in print, and even if many aren't in print, they're probably not going for like $100 like some shows that are out of print go for. Only the real popular shows go for that much like Sailor Moon and When They Cry.

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Yeah that's ridiculous.

Looks like I won't have any other option when I finally get to watching this one...

[Jeebus201]

Absolutely not. Double pack shows never work especially since one will fail and preclude the other. Also dialog heavy means ratings fail.

[TheBigOFan72]

Episode 4 had mostly action you know. I highly doubt an anime involving a Holy Grail War would be mostly dialogue. The first few episodes are just explaining things and getting you ready for what's going to happen.

Also, they're not going to air Fate/stay night in the first place, and it wouldn't be a pack-in deal, especially now when it's impossible for [adult swim] to try getting the airing rights to that show (Which would bomb now.). I mean it's out of print and there's nothing FUNimation can do but sit and wait for that Geneon Universal merger to be done that has affected so many of their titles.

[Jeebus201]

That makes even less sense to only tell half of a story. Any way you slice it it's a bad idea.

[DemandingAnime]

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TheBigOFan72 wrote:

Episode 4 had mostly action you know. I highly doubt an anime involving a Holy Grail War would be mostly dialogue. The first few episodes are just explaining things and getting you ready for what's going to happen.

Also, they're not going to air Fate/stay night in the first place, and it wouldn't be a pack-in deal, especially now when it's impossible for [adult swim] to try getting the airing rights to that show (Which would bomb now.). I mean it's out of print and there's nothing FUNimation can do but sit and wait for that Geneon Universal merger to be done that has affected so many of their titles.

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That's just annoying.

They probably won't air it for this annoying reason then.

>:-(

[TheBigOFan72]

Nah, the main reason they wouldn't air Fate/stay night is because it's been so heavily seen, and out on the market for so long. It would bomb exactly like Neon Genesis Evangelion, and that is a guarantee.

Fate/Zero would be the better investment as it's new, it's not heavily as seen, and it's not out on DVD or BD yet. Fate/Zero would do way, way, way better than Fate/stay night for this very reason.

[TheBigOFan72]

You do realize that Fate/Zero while a prequel isn't needed to understand Fate/stay night right? Think of it like The Legend of Zelda, different time periods, but the same world of Hyrule. You're not getting only a fraction of the story really as the stories aren't really needed to understand other ones.

You're basically taking potshots again to keep new anime from getting on [adult swim].

[Sketchor]

If the viewers don't need to have seen Fate/Stay Night before seeing this pre-quel (and why should they? It's a pre-quel). Then it shouldn't be a problem.

It's a kin to saying you can't watch Star Wars Episode I without seeing Episode IV or you can't see Dragon Ball without seeing Dragon Ball Z. You can either or both in whichever order but you'll best enjoy the full story having seen both in order probably. So for new viewers seeing ZERO before Night would actually be a good thing and since the original series doesn't actually look that old maybe Adult Swim could even air that after wards if ZERO does well enough. But that's depending on the status of the license by that point I suppose.

Seems kind of early to be asking about this one though. I guess there's no harm in pointing it out early but if this were to air on Adult Swim, it likely wouldn't be until at least this time next year.

But if it's anything like the original then it has plenty of action to keep the viewers interested so I guess it tentatively has my vote... I'll have to actually watch it before I can really judge it. As anyone who is attempting to judge it SHOULD (oh hai there Jeebus). But they don't have to if they're not going to give their opinion any further.

[TheBigOFan72]

Well them airing Fate/stay night after Fate/Zero is very unlikely no matter how well Fate/Zero does. Fate/stay night is so heavily seen that it's another Neon Genesis Evangelion waiting to happen. It's been on the market for years, however it's out of print.

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As you can see, it's too heavily seen to be worth trying to air. Fate/Zero luckily isn't in that same boat as it's not heavily seen, it started airing in Japan a couple weeks ago.

[Sketchor]

Honestly I don't think those ranking really matter in whether or not a show is going to do well on Adult Swim.

As long as it's not something as far after the fact as EVA was for Adult Swim it'll probably be fine. But I think EVA's pace might have been a problem as well. That show's easier to watch a few episodes at a time but watching it once a week is some kind of torture...

[TheBigOFan72]

They do play a factor in giving you a hint on about how many people have seen it. The more popular, the more people have seen it. If a show has been heavily seen, the chances of someone checking it out on TV for a change for like their 9,000th rewatch probably isn't going to bother watching it again.

[DemandingAnime]

Well I'll just watch it another way I guess.

As for Fate/Zero I pretty much agree.

But first it has to get a dub confirmed in order for this to happen.

[TheBigOFan72]

Yeah, but considering it's out of print, it would actually be better to watch it that way than to support sellers by paying for way higher than the MSRP. That money could be used on something that actually is in print and supports the industry.

Also it most likely will get a dub, we just have to wait. FUNimation most likely will get it.

[DemandingAnime]

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TheBigOFan72 wrote:

Yeah, but considering it's out of print, it would actually be better to watch it that way than to support sellers by paying for way higher than the MSRP. That money could be used on something that actually is in print and supports the industry.

Also it most likely will get a dub, we just have to wait. FUNimation most likely will get it.

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Alright then. It'll be awhile before I watch it anyway.

If I wait long enough maybe I'll be able to watch the prequel first dubbed before the "sequel" dubbed!!

[TheBigOFan72]

That could be 1-2 years however. I suspect Fate/Zero will be picked up by somebody next year hopefully. Currently Aniplex USA is simulcasting that, but that doesn't mean they have all the rights to it. If they do, it could mean subbed-only.

[Jeebus201]

It still makes virtually no sense.

"Let's air half of a story, the first half all the potential viewers have seen but new viewers haven't and will be totally lost without, and even if we wanted to show that half, can't due to license issues."

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  Wait, no it doesn't.  Don't air this show.  Ever.

[Sketchor]

You're still wrong you know.

You don't have to see Fate/Stay Night to see Zero. It's not essential viewing. Like Dragon Ball Z isn't essentialy viewing for watching Dragon Ball or Naruto Shippuden isn't essential viewing for Naruto or Star Wars Episode IV isn't essential viewing for Star Wars Episode I.

It's the pre-quel. Viewers wont be lost. If it was a sequel you'd have a point.

If it tells the story that happens before and introduces the characters like they're new then wouldn't be confusing.

Okay wait... I haven't even watched this show (and I don't you have either) so I can't say for sure they don't explain who characters are so until I do I'm just going to assume since it's a pre-quel knowledge of the other part of the story isn't essential but I'll have to get back to this thread when I determine if that's truly the case or not.

[TheBigOFan72]

They briefly explain who the characters are, the classes, and other essential things in the first few episodes, so that's a good thing. It's pretty easy to follow for someone like me who hasn't seen Fate/stay night at all.

[TheBigOFan72]

So for example, for Media Blasters to get Rurouni Kenshin on TV again, they'd have to find someway to convince Aniplex USA to get Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal to air first since as it's a prequel (Made years after the TV series.), they'll totally be lost without it.I watched Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal before Rurouni Kenshin, and that prequel still made sense to me. Even after having seen 43 episodes of the TV series, I found out I still don't need any knowledge of Rurouni Kenshin to follow Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal. Having seen Rurouni Kenshin beforehand will just make you appreciate it more.

You're making no sense. Fate/Zero was made years after Fate/stay night, and it's a prequel to that heavily seen show. Absolutely no knowledge of Fate/stay night is needed, absolutely none. Having seen it beforehand will just give you greater appreciation as a fan, but not having seen Fate/stay night first isn't an issue.

[robertje]

i watched fate/stay night i didnt mind it and i heard this follows what like 10 years b4 the events of fate/stay night? Is this new one any good, worthy of watching?