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derplatte
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Let's Face It: Superjail Season 2 Blows Corn.

Adult Swim, you've done so little wrong over the last decade, but you ruined Superjail, which I didn't think was possible.   What the hell gave you guys the dumb idea that Jason Publick should run this show?  Superjail is the Anti-Venture Brothers, don't you realize that?   It's the difference between Alice Cooper's "Killer" and "From The Inside."  It's the difference between Kiss' "Rock And Roll Over" and "Dynasty."  You took a great, crude, primitive, psychedelic wonder  and turned it into a just another piece of  meta nerd-culture junk.    I'm scared to death that this show is going to wind up with some stupid cliffhanger, backstory or gigantic "reveal" at the end of the season.  I've got a reveal for you AS:   Don't even air the rest of Season 2.  Throw it in the garbage.  

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I'm not voicing my opinion for or against, but I have noticed the change. It went from Rob Zombie references to G.I. Joe and Voltron references. Not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it definitely went through some changes over those three years,

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Dam OP you are really butthurt, aren't ya? You don't care for humor, or any story, just wanna see death. Cool an all, but this show wouldn't get to far with just that. Still have 7 **QWOP** episodes left with plenty of murder, so stop being a little **QWOP** about it because its better then anything on Adult Swim right now.

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I don't know why so many don't like the new season. I personally am glad they are giving more of a story to the show. If it was just a bloodfest in every episode and nothing else, it would get  boring. I know i would be bored with it. Just my opinion :smileywink:

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I have to agree. I love superjail! but so far I am extremely disappointed. Its not even the same show. 

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I'm utterly bored by Season 2. I miss the psychadelia of Season 1. And I'm bored with the violence too. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't feel right.

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derplatte
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Balls. Story is terrific when it's needed, and Superjail's original idea had plenty.  Now in season 2 it looks like it has some bad ideas about Dimentions and Subplots,  and those are boring in the Superjail universe.  The pure cinema of the first season was enough.  It's not like I love the violence, it's the art of the violence that's missing, and the sheer gory fun of it all.  They ripped the heart out of the idea with this season and put capes and lame Transformer ideas in its place.  And the animation just stinks.  There are some nice ideas, but they just sit there, or worse, they're pulled back.  For instance: there are a million stories that the inmates could tell, but  now it's all about the weak characters they fly in.  And nobody at Titmouse cares about Max Fleicher, they only care about how close it is to Transformers or something.  They just ripped the heart and soul out of the whole idea.  It's sad.    

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Re: Let's Face It: Superjail Season 2 Blows Corn.

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  Ok I don't know what to say here... If it was the same as season 1 everyone here would be crying how they're waisting our time with the same old junk, and now that it has story and is different people seem to think the can spew verbal diarrhea and somehow they're right.  Max Fleicher reference?  Dude, do you even know what your talking about?  Max Fleicher was all that rubber hose animation which is clearly has been amplified in this season, so...your stupid.  It seems like these message boards are the only place where like 5 people come to hate the show, where everywhere else people seem to like it.  Get out of your mom's basement dude, get some sunlight on your face, and for god sake give your hammer a rest, it's probably all red and beat up from how lonely you are.  And for all the other whiners and weeners on this message board who are complaining that their is not enough gore, you are as big of freaks as your guidance counselor's said you are, and you should not be allowed near any school yard.  Everyone else knows full well there's plenty of gratuitous violence and hilarity to go around.  In the end it's a cartoon, everyone needs to stop being such nerds.  Instead of running onto the message boards to complain, try going out and getting drunk or laid... trust me its way more fun.

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Really come on

I would reserve such harsh Judgment When the season ends

 

I have noticed changes but Im not going to get all stupid and buthurt about it

 

Its called proggression and a lot of cartoons do that

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You're calling it meta nerd-culture junk when you're comparing Alice Cooper and Kiss songs? Now that's just nerdy to an insane degree.
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Also, is it just me, or did the animation quality go backwards? Superjail! was never a meticulously illustrated show, one of it's qualities, but now it seems so sloppy that the characters look completely different to me. Am I crazy or what?
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yes

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I have to agree with the OP... I was really excited when I learned that there was gonna be a new season, but this is just disappointing. It's not about "There needs to be more blood guys", its about the whole feel of the show. Superjail is an extremely surreal show. There wasn't a whole lot of unnecessary dialogue; most of the appeal came from sight gags and trippy animation. It was very vague and confusing and a crucial part of the show is that nothing really had to make sense. This new season lacks that almost completely. I'm not butthurt, I'm just kind of sad that the show as I know it only lasted several episodes.

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I could not possibly agree more; Superjail went from one of my top 3 favorite shows of all time to deleted from tivo.  I loved the psychedelic, yellow submarine-like violence without getting into the characters too much.  Season 1 - I'd laugh non-stop.  Season 2 - I laughed once so far.

 

just makes me want to cry

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Dam people act thats its a terrible show now just because it doesn't have the same generic formula over and over and over in every episode (Which Was Great). But sorry to say the creators didn't want that, I do prefer season one better. But I laugh AT LEAST twice every episode on season 2. Might not be as gory but doesn't mean its not good. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I don't  think it is a gore issue. The intensity of the show is gone. It's just plain lazy. Other animations could have been added to the last two minutes if there was a gore problem, but that's not what happened. They just cut out the best part out the show.

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Publick, huh? I thought to myself with the stingray episode, "Wow, he looks and sounds a lot like the Monarch. That's weird." Now I know why.

I don't like it. We don't need another Venture Bros.
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I loved the first season so much I bought the DVD.  The second season's animation and drawing are far worse, and if you don't understand that just by watching it, I don't know what to tell you.  I'm sad :smileysad:

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The portrayal of the twins was so horribly warped in season 2 that compared to the first season they might as well be different characters.

 

I'm heartbroken.

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Did anyone see the recent formula for evaluating Superjail! episodes? If I remember it correctly, the constants in that formula says that the episodes where Jackson Publick story edits are worse than the ones where he does not, so it would seem [as] agrees with the OP.

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wrong golfwang. everything on adult swim is awesome. thats why its adult swim. if you dont like it get off it. however, youre missing what all these people are talking about. superjail was an amazing show in season 1 because of every element of its production. the show wouldnt dissipate by retaining its original theme. perhaps adding plot to add some diversity would be acceptable but a more subtle approach would be ideal i think. also, jackson publick is not responsible for this new change of direction derplatte. in fact, he stepped in in episode six of the first season to aid the stumped writing staff and was responsible for the last three episodes, including the time police episodes (possibly the best ones.) He actually supervises the writing now, but i digress. christy and steve wanted a new scene i guess and decided to add coherent plot lines, below par music (sorry christy but im not a huge fan of cheeseburger), and reduce randomized, trippy death sequences. the best part of those things were those crazy ass ambient noises heard in the background. awesome trips. and what happened to the animation? certainly not as good. the point is, superjail captured audiences because of its dark and intense writing and production values emphasized by its random psychedelic action sequences. season 1 was genius and phenomenal. season 2 is not. i concur with derplatte. throw it in the trash. or at least reconsider the aspects that acquired such a large fanbase in the first place.

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lol was that all to me? You just repeated the same EXACT things I have said in this and other threads in this section >_____<. Your missing what i'm saying, the CHANGES DON'T BOTHER ME! simple as that, I understand other people's views. Its just my opinion buddy.

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I don't mind the animation. It's different but not bad. I take issue with characters being too similar to already existing characters on AS.
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Honestly, I'd have to agree with you to some extent. I'm not really enjoying the new season, and it's not exactly due to the new animation style or the lack of violence or anything like that, though that can twist the knife at times.  It's that it doesn't feel like Superjail. You can tell it has the shell of the original show is present, and that the new animator and writers are trying, but it feels like they're missing some crucial points. 

 

The biggest problem I have with the new season is where they took the writing for the Warden. Most of his dialog and actions seem really out of character from the first season, especially in episode three. The Warden, when we first saw him, was spontaneous and childlike, but you still knew that he was in control ("His controlled chaos" ) and every thing was in his plan from the start. It's that power holding and lusting side of him that caused an emotional blend of fear and admiration, and you just don't see that with him in this new season. Yes, he's still insane and acts upon will, but it doesn't appear that he has that charisma and command that he had in the first season, which is where I draw problems with in episode three.

 

Remember that the Warden has nearly conquered the world, invaded the dreams of thousands of people, turned an entire prison against each other twice, entrapped five inmates in a snow globe for his amusement, sent one of his closest friends into a suicide mission, ordered to have a live child cremated, and later killed her himself, and created a wager with another warden at the risk of his entire prison.

 

 

And yet, he was pushed around by a guy in a cape, because he was lonely one afternoon. 

 

 

No. Just . . . no. 

 

The twins are also a problem in the new series, but I feel they've been touched upon enough as it is. 

 

The animation for me is a little irregular. Not superjail irregular, mind you,  just that it hasn't exactly defined its character style yet. I don't have a problem with the change in animation, as long as it is somewhat recognizable. In certain scenes, I would actually even commend the animators for their work i.e. Episode 1,where the Warden wakes up and calls Jared. The animation was smooth and regular, and it felt natural in its own sense. It felt as though the movement was proper and contained enough to where it was still fluid and wild, but not so much that it went beyond the boundaries of haminess. At other times however, it just looked lazy or off cuff, like they threw it together in a rush. i.e. Episode Four,  when he talks about the hunter. It was still good animation, but it looked too exaggerated and sloppy. 

 

The violence isn't really that much of a problem for me, as I didn't watch the show specifically for that. The sequences were amusing and eye catching, but I was more enticed by the characters and story. I do see, however, that they cut down on this quite a lot, and even though it's not a problem for me, I still can see it as an insult to the fans. Violence was pinnacle in the series for some, and to remove that aspect was disappointing. 

 

The only reason why I'm writing this ridiculously long review now is because this has really been bothering me since the start of the new season. It took me a while to pinpoint what was missing for me, but after some analysis, these are my results.

 

I'm fine if you respectfully disagree with them, but please don't flame me for having an opinion, and I won't with you. 

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derplatte wrote:

Adult Swim, I'm going to completely ignore the fact that I watched the last two episodes of Season 1, both of which were pretty (if not more so than any as of yet aired in Season 2) story driven, so that I can complain about how completely unexpected and disappointing a turn this show has taken creatively. I mean, I cannot believe this show, built upon psychedelic animation and parodic plot points, would continue to rely on such things in a fashion that was much more refined and mature than the methods employed in the previous season. How dare they grow as artists, and how dare they try to instill any meaning inside of/through their artistic message? Sincerely, A Loyal Viewer and Big Big Fan.


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