The Swim Archive

[katt_goddess]

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tini_tunz wrote:

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Suntory_Hibiki wrote:

Jeff, we're all aware of your condition,

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I wasn't. I just thought he was a troll.

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Jeff has Asperger's - a high-functioning autism. Emphasis on the high-functioning part because it's not the stereotypical autism that most people might think of, people with it are still able to have a fairly normal life. They just tend to be -very- focused on some things. This can be great like if they are really into trivia and get to know something really well but it can also be aggrevating to others if there's something that they just get stuck on and can't seem to get off of. The internet can pose both a blessing and a curse since it allows for so much communication to go on but there aren't any facial cues [as has already been mentioned] to let someone know whether the other person is being rude or just being a smartarse in a fun way so it ends up with someone like Jeff taking the offensive from something that most of us wouldn't blink at. He ends up spiraling around a particular thought sometimes and it colors the replies of others towards him negatively regardless of whether they actually are. It doesn't help that there are those who needle him no matter what as well as those who just don't quite know what's going on.

I just remind Jeff to chillax, breathe deep and either start again or take a quick breather from the boards until whatever he's irritated by eases.

[Jeffchao228]

I am on a cell phone when I am at my moms place.

[Jeffchao228]

Calling me a troll of course makes me quite upset, and that is why I act like that.

[DRD2001]

I remember you mentioning the cell phone now. My cell phone doesn't have internet access. That is probably for the best because I'd probably never get any work done at work.

[Jeffchao228]

Well that is how I am able to post in the Bleach Episode Discussion threads on here.

[DRD2001]

At least you can still post.

[Jeffchao228]

Well I know that the mods do not know that I post on a cell phone much, but I guess some already know.

[comedyswimfan089]

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Jeffchao228 wrote:
I am on a cell phone when I am at my moms place.

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Is it hard to post on your cell phone?
Is it hard to browse the boards?
Do the pages load fast?

I wouldn't be surprised if more users are able to post from portable devices in the near future.

[SwimMod_Arcturus]

Is it fun to post that way? I've actually posted a few times on my new phone, but it tests my patience.

[FieryDoom]

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tini_tunz wrote:

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Suntory_Hibiki wrote:

Jeff, we're all aware of your condition,

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I wasn't. I just thought he was a troll.

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I don't go into action all that much so I don't see much of Jeff, but it still helps to know which users one can goof around with and which you can't. I would imagine a lot of bans could be avoided like this, at least on my part.

As for posting on different devices, I've posted here on my ps3 but the experience leaves something to be desired.

Message Edited by FieryDoom on 01-26-2009 10:35 PM

[Jeffchao228]

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SwimMod_Arcturus wrote:
Is it fun to post that way? I've actually posted a few times on my new phone, but it tests my patience.

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Well it is fast to load, but takes a bit to type on here, unless your cell phone has a computer-like keyboard pad, then is easy to type.

[comedyswimfan089]

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SwimMod_Arcturus wrote:
Is it fun to post that way? I've actually posted a few times on my new phone, but it tests my patience.

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I've yet to find a way to post on the boards with my phone. 

[SwimMod_Arcturus]

My new one is all touch screen/interface-ish, so I couldn't resist.

[comedyswimfan089]

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SwimMod_Arcturus wrote:
My new one is all touch screen/interface-ish, so I couldn't resist.

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Neat!  I looked at the touch screens when I was looking for a new phone, but couldn't get them to work properly for my fingers, so I decided against them.

[SwimMod_Luuv]

Scabby was just bein silly.  Us mods do stuff like that to each other all the time. 

[SwimMod_Luuv]

I think being aware of it and understanding it are two different things.

I would suggest that, if one is (and I'm not talking about you specifically, I'm just talking in general here) annoyed with something or afraid with something, the odds are pretty great that they actually don't understand it.

I think when a lot of people are dealing with Jeff they make the mistake of like, going "Well if it were me, I would do this" or "I wouldn't make that choice if I was him" or whatever.

But the truth is, yeah, you would.  Because you would have the same problems processing things.

I just don't think the key is trying to sit on him or change him or sort of berate him for not being somebody else. 

The key is actually patience. I think sometimes, people mistake patience for inactivity.  And in some situations, one does have to act quickly.  But when it comes to human relationships, even the kind of fleeting ones, they really are all sort of 'long term' things.  And they all require patience to get through the misunderstandings, misinterpretations, or even genuine differences.  All that can be understood in time, but only if people give themselves a shot at that kind of life.  

And yeah, sometimes you have to work a little harder with Jeff, but he has to work ten times harder than that even.  And none of us are immune to needing to be understood, or needing patience.

So - I just think it's good to keep that at the forefront sometimes when dealing with a lot of different kinds of people.

[SwimMod_Luuv]

It is a different era now.  Mods aren't so much allowed to do fun stuff.  But as always, I encourage people to PM me for my MySpace and Facebook.  I can have as much fun on there as I want without gettin all dogged by the man.

I actually started a new serial just for Facebook.   

[Jeffchao228]

Well knowing that mods having a Facebook and MySpace tend to never to reveal it given the problems it might come with.

[Jeffchao228]

Luuv, it is just lately, I had no job, no relationship, no money, and hardly much interaction with people in the outside world.

[FieryDoom]

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SwimMod_Luuv wrote:

I think being aware of it and understanding it are two different things.

I would suggest that, if one is (and I'm not talking about you specifically, I'm just talking in general here) annoyed with something or afraid with something, the odds are pretty great that they actually don't understand it.

I think when a lot of people are dealing with Jeff they make the mistake of like, going "Well if it were me, I would do this" or "I wouldn't make that choice if I was him" or whatever.

But the truth is, yeah, you would.  Because you would have the same problems processing things.

I just don't think the key is trying to sit on him or change him or sort of berate him for not being somebody else. 

The key is actually patience. I think sometimes, people mistake patience for inactivity.  And in some situations, one does have to act quickly.  But when it comes to human relationships, even the kind of fleeting ones, they really are all sort of 'long term' things.  And they all require patience to get through the misunderstandings, misinterpretations, or even genuine differences.  All that can be understood in time, but only if people give themselves a shot at that kind of life.  

And yeah, sometimes you have to work a little harder with Jeff, but he has to work ten times harder than that even.  And none of us are immune to needing to be understood, or needing patience.

So - I just think it's good to keep that at the forefront sometimes when dealing with a lot of different kinds of people.

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*sheds a tear and starts a slow clap*

i love you, man!!

[Suntory_Hibiki]

I'm just asking him if he's aware that not every reply to the negative of his opinion is an attack and if he sees that his reply sort of is.

I'm no shrink, and understanding Aspergers is not a priority in my life, but I've been here long enough to see Jeff freak out over benign comments and his replies are getting progressively aggressive. Me personally, I've tip toed around his posts and/or threads because it is that unpredictable nature of his replies as do a great many other people I've come to know here over the years.

Not taking shots at Jeff, never have.

[MrD1718]

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Suntory_Hibiki wrote:

I'm just asking him if he's aware that not every reply to the negative of his opinion is an attack and if he sees that his reply sort of is.

I'm no shrink, and understanding Aspergers is not a priority in my life, but I've been here long enough to see Jeff freak out over benign comments and his replies are getting progressively aggressive. Me personally, I've tip toed around his posts and/or threads because it is that unpredictable nature of his replies as do a great many other people I've come to know here over the years.

Not taking shots at Jeff, never have.

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He may not see them as benign.

It's hard understanding disorders like aspergers because it affects the brain.  Just a small thing like a car accident caused some lady to get a disorder that makes her talk in foreign accents. 

Seeing that it may be getting "progessively aggressive" may mean that the syndrome is getting progressively worse.  Which would mean that we need to pracice (as Luuv said) more patience.

Getting angry about it can only make things worse.

Message Edited by MrD1718 on 01-27-2009 04:50 PM

[Jingai]

I agree with Luuv, in that I think everyone could use a little more patience when dealing with each other,

regardless of the situation. I am reasonably certain that over 90% of the issues that end up reported

could have been avoided if all parties involved would have stopped for fifteen seconds and 

thought about what it was that was really happening. Just a little patience in situations where

emotions are running high is enough to prevent being caught up in a bad situation, or making it worse.

  The real key I feel is to remember that posting here is supposed to be fun. If something is bothering you,

simply walk away from it. If you feel it is really offensive, or otherwise should be seen by a Mod, report it

and walk away. Remember to exercise some patience, because reports might not be immediately

addressed. Patience, moderation, and remembering that where the heart is engaged, the mind is rarely found.

[CC-Kallen]

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SwimMod_Arcturus wrote:
Is it fun to post that way? I've actually posted a few times on my new phone, but it tests my patience.

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I've posted some posts from an iPod Touch... it doesn't test my patience, but it loads really slowly. x_X

What kind of phone is it? 

[totallyrad]

What the heck happened?

I tried to post something and it made a new thread. o_O;