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Q&A and FAQ with Shin Chan Writer Jared Hedges

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Thread is dedicated to our Writer for Crayon Shin Chan, Jared Hedges who is with Funimation, and the the purpose of this thread is to ask questions about Shin Chan and discussions related to this show, also so feel free to ask away if you need to know something about this show or to the writer

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Flaming, Bashing, or Abusing this show or it's Writer is forbidden within this topic and the FAQ,although friendly criticism is ok, anyone seen doing this will reported to the mods or Admins at once to be dealt with, we want to make this insider feel welcome to this discussion and want to keep it that way, thanks. :smileyhappy:
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are you writing new scripts?or are these punch ups of original scripts? Because like you said the animation is what it is right?
 
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is there any more ench-man episodes comming or was that death of the franchise episode the last one?
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In a battle to the death between Bart Simpson, Stewie Griffin, Eric Cartman, Shin, and Randy "Macho Man" Savage, who would win?
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what kind of **bleep** question is that?
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ExpIosivo_420 wrote:
what kind of **bleep** question is that?


The Best **bleep** Question Ever.
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NobodysFool wrote:
In a battle to the death between Bart Simpson, Stewie Griffin, Eric Cartman, Shin, and Randy "Macho Man" Savage, who would win?


I'm going to answer this question first, because of its obvious importance to mankind.  The battle would indeed be intense... until Jake the Snake Roberts showed up from the wings and handily destroyed them all.  I mean come on.  He's got a snake.  In a bag.
 
Personally I'd like to see a battle between Maggie Simpson and Hima. 
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wooo I got an answer to something I asked on Shin's myspace blog. I'll copy and paste the reply.


SaW wrote:

I loved how there was a Gild Wars referance in the one episode. It made my nerd-dom just explode with glee (and all over my bed, unfortunately.) So I was wondering if there be any other referances to video games? Particular the "City Of" series or maybe tthe Bloodrayne series since I believe the actress who does Shin also did Rayne.

Also here's a generic fan-to-writer question, whats you're favorite character?



Jared wrote:

Who knows what other game references might find their way into Shinland. Between Joel, Alex, me, Zach and the engineer Peter, we've got a fair amount of nerd-dom experience. Yonro was great for exposing us.

In other words, I get a lot of chicks.

My favorite character, by far, is Penny's Mom, the tragic Mrs. Milfer. She's the recurring character we've probably taken the most liberty with-- adding in the terribly abusive husband element-- and I'd like a whole series about her and Penny. That dark humor that makes me feel horrible and want to throw up a little as I'm working on it... that's what life is all about.



 


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ExpIosivo_420 wrote:
are you writing new scripts?or are these punch ups of original scripts? Because like you said the animation is what it is right?
 


Thanks for the question.

These are adaptations of Japanese scripts.  Yes indeed, the animation is set, so we're confined to the animation and the amount of words that can fit into the characters' mouth flaps.  The only control we have visually is choosing which vignettes to use, and paint work to change the kanji on signs, titles, etc. into English for sight gags.  (This can help a lot to cover our tails when we stray from the original story.)  

But unlike the usual anime dub, we've made pretty significant changes to the dialogue to make it accessible to English audiences.  Plots and visual gags translate.  Dialogue jokes centered on puns, Japanese pop culture, and customs... not so much. 

I touched on this earlier in an interview on Shin's myspace page.  Check out this link for more detail.

    

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shoutingatthedark wrote:


NobodysFool wrote:
In a battle to the death between Bart Simpson, Stewie Griffin, Eric Cartman, Shin, and Randy "Macho Man" Savage, who would win?


I'm going to answer this question first, because of its obvious importance to mankind.  The battle would indeed be intense... until Jake the Snake Roberts showed up from the wings and handily destroyed them all.  I mean come on.  He's got a snake.  In a bag.
 
Personally I'd like to see a battle between Maggie Simpson and Hima. 



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Actually, I'll just repost that answer here.  Link-clicking is hard on the fingers... 

That's a tough one to encapsulate. It depends. We mostly try to keep the spirit of the original, and the basic plot of each episode intact. So most of the situational humor stays (i.e. Shin is collecting stickers to get his Action Kaman/Action **bleep** belt). But most of the dialogue jokes from Japanese don't translate, either because they are Japanese puns or pop culture references.

Also, we are trying to appeal to a different group of viewers, so that means further changes to the jokes. In Japan this is aired during prime time and intended for all ages, and our dub is airing on Adult Swim. So, we try to alter the humor accordingly-- basically more jokes about poop, domestic violence, and eating homeless people.

Generally, we keep the storyline and throw out the dialogue itself. When writing a script, I read through the translation several times while watching the video, to get a handle on the plot and the conversations. After that, I put the translation away and write the dialogue fresh. Sometimes we end up staying fairly close to the original... And other times we stray pretty heavily.

Here's an example of where we stay fairly close to the translation in terms of content, and just change/add more jokes. This is from Episode 1, Shin's Allowance. Here's the original translation.

S=Shin G=Georgie (Kazama in Japanese) M=Maso

M: Say, how much is your allowance, Kazama-kun?
G: About 500 yen a month, I guess…
M: Wow, that’s a lot! I only get 100 yen a month…!
S: You could build a whole house...!
G: Get real! And pull your pants up!
M: Say, what about your allowance, Shin-chan?
S: I don’t have one…
G: Pull your pants up!
S: I get money from my mom when I want some.
But all she ever says is, “What’s it for?! Don’t you dare waste it!”
when she gives it to me…
G: Why don’t you have her set a monthly allowance, then?
S: Guess I will!
M: Yeah! It’s nice not having to ask for money all the time!
S: But she might not go for it.
G: Then why not go on strike?
S: A good pitcher’s throw?
G: Not that kind of strike!
S: So what do I do?
G: You refuse to help her until she gives you an allowance, for example.
S: I see…!

And our version (Joel wrote this one):

M: Hey Georgie, how much allowance are you getting these days?
G: A sweet 50 bills a week, plus stock options.
M: Wow. That's a lot. Are your parents doctors, lawyers, or Jews?
S: You could buy a whole monkey with that!
G: And you could buy a brain. Now pull up your **bleep** pants already.
M: So Shin, what kind of allowance are your folks giving you?
S: A whole lotta nothing.
G: Pants! Pull up your freaking pants!
S: Whenever I need money I have to ask my mom for it. But she never gives me any. She thinks everything I want to buy is dumb. What's wrong with Viagra, and Action **bleep** tighties?
G: You know how sad that makes you? You're an embarrassment to kids everywhere. She's playing you for a sucker!
S: (lands) Crowd goes wild!
M: Hey you know what? You should ask for a weekly allowance so you don't have to keep begging for money!
S: That'd be sweet, but what if she won't go for it?
G: Go on strike, like one of those lazy teamsters?
S: Throw a baseball at my mother?
G: Not that kind of strike, moron!
S: Okay, I'm confused.
G: Stop doing chores. That's what our Meximaid does whenever she wants a raise from my dad.
S: Oh, I get it!

And here's an example where we strayed pretty heavily from the translation. This is from episode 5, A Bootyful Day in the Neighborhood, where Shin meets a pervert on the street. As you'll see, in the original Japanese the man was not a pervert at all, just a man needing directions to someone's house.

Translation:

S=Shin M=Man

M: Little Boy.
S: Yeah, Mister?
M: I got a quick question for you…
S: You’re from Souka?
M: No, a place called Yashio right next to it.
S: Never heard of it.
M: Yashio has highways too, you know! No train stations, though.
Oh, anyways, do you know where I can find the Someya family?
S: Oh, the Someya-san that’s expecting to give birth to a wife this June?
M: Yes, the Someya-san whose wife is expecting to give birth this June.
S: This way! I’ll show you…!
M: Thanks, I appreciate it.

S: Someya-san! Someya-san! Souka rice crackers here!
S: Let’s see, I’m sure it was around here… Where was it, again?
M: It’s around here, right? I can look for it myself now…
S: Eh?! I’ll help you!
S: I’ll go ask a policeman, so hold on a minute!
M: No, you don’t need to go that far…!

And here's our version, thanks to the crazed mind of our other writing partner, Alex Muniz.

M: Hello, there.
S: What do you want?
M: Would you like to see inside this green bag? It’s full of cake and video games.
For the new GameStation Two?
S: Show me the cake, show me the game, show me the cake!
M: Sure, but first, you must answer me this one very important question.
S: Okay…
M: Would you prefer a Gigantic One-Eyed Monster with hair or without? I’m doing research on what kind of design little boys like you prefer, so if you could come back to my place for a few hours and tell me what you think that’d be super— there will be cake, of course, and surprises.
S: Oh… you’re one of those scums who wants to take my Action **bleep** Action Figure!
M: No, I just want to see how much you enjoy playing with my “Gigantic One-Eyed Monster!”
S: Sorry, but I can’t talk to strangers unless they have candy.
M: I feel like I can change your mind.
...
S: Help! Police! This scum won’t stop following me. He wants me to play with his one- eyed monster!
S: This is just like that very special episode of Action **bleep**. Attack of the Perverts.
M: Hey, little boy, cut that out! There really are video games in this green bag!
S: Really? And is there cake in there too?
S: Wait, that’s just another scum trick! I’m gonna get the police!
M: But you haven’t tested my new pink joystick!

Hope that sheds a little light on things.

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GeorgeWBullsh_t wrote:
is there any more ench-man episodes comming or was that death of the franchise episode the last one?



In the second round of vignette choosing, there were a handful of characters I specifically hunted for, either because we loved writing them, or the voice actor blew us away, or because they were popular with the fans during the trial run.  Any time I found one of them in an episode, I'd immediately grab it.

Ench was definitely one of the Most Wanted (Action **bleep**, Penny's Mom, and Happiness Rabbit were the others).  His crazy accent was not originally called for, and was entirely the creation of the voice actor, Jason Liebrecht.  We can't get enough of it.  Sadly, Ench-Man did not make another appearance in the 100 episodes we had to choose from.  But Principal Ench, the Clark Kent of Super Happy Fun Time American School, will be making several more appearances. 

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At least the good news it is getting quite the viewers among watching this show, and besides that even some from the Action Discussion Forum are even joining into watching this, I just hope you and the others can continue to do the best dub there is, even if it seems a bit offbeat I guess, but at least it is funny. :smileyhappy:
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Just want to say a quick thanks for spending some time with us.

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And also want to say thanks to Jeff for making the thread.

Thanks Jeff. :smileyhappy:

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Is Yonrou as much of a loser and as geeky/creepy in the Japanese version? He's my favorite of all the new characters introduced since they moved into Falling Apartments.

If his character is more the influence of the American writers, how'd you come up with it? Or I guess if not, how did his geekiness differ in the Japanese scripts?

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No Problem, if you wish, you could add him to the Fan Collective, since I know he would be happy if he had friends and fans that like him and his work, but anyway I usually the first to know about him in regards to one of my threads I posted 3 days back, but I am happy he is finily here. :smileyhappy:
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You are awesome, shoutingatthedark. I just want to thank you for the awesome job on one of the best comedies to hit America in a long time, Shin-chan. Thank you.

The editing of the dialouge you guys have done is amazing. I knew you changed it but i didn't know how much you changed it. I actually prefer it in the americanized version because its a whole lot funnier.
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Hybrid-Homer wrote:
Is Yonrou as much of a loser and as geeky/creepy in the Japanese version? He's my favorite of all the new characters introduced since they moved into Falling Apartments.

If his character is more the influence of the American writers, how'd you come up with it? Or I guess if not, how did his geekiness differ in the Japanese scripts?

Message Edited by Hybrid-Homer on 04-28-200711:55 AM



Hi guys, this is Joel Bergen.  I'm one of Jared's flying monkeys / dub writers.  Thanks Jeff for organizing this Q&A... it's great for us writers to interact with the fans.  We really appreciate all the (mostly) positive feedback.

Based on the translations we received, Yonro was more of a loser than a nerd (big difference).  He'd been rejected from college three times and had a messy apartment, but that was about it.  We added all of the geeky/nerd references.  How'd we come up with it?  Just look at him!  He looks like he'd play Guild Wars and worship Crom.  So once we started in that direction, we just kept making him nerdier and nerdier.  Because we're really nerdy and had a lot of fun coming up with his lines.

Glad you like him, Hybrid-Homer.  We like him, too.
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Well looks like I have done well, and welcome to the ASMB, I figure Luuv is on right some where and I am hoping that you get the SwimAssociate title as well knowing that you have joined us, and yes, we have grown to like this show and how greatful to have you here,

BTW also you should look to also to the Fan Collective since some who don't normally post on the boards will also be on the Fan Collective, and well you can get more friends that fans of this show also, of coruse I'll give more detail on it later,

But I am greatful that you guys managed to change the face of anime and making this series quite funny none of the less, besides I figure that I made this thread for just such the occasion. :smileyhappy:
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Aha!  Joel is here.

See, I told you we travel in packs.

Now where's Alex?  What, do you "do things" on "Saturdays?"  Are you "writing" a "script?"  Pa-shaw.  

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Hey, there. I hope you don't think this question is too impertinent, but why did you decide not to retain the services of Evan Dorkin and Sarah Dyer as writers? I realize they were only doing punch-ups on the scripts -- and people are probably apt to give them too much credit for the success of those initial episodes -- but it seemed like they had the perfect sensibility for the show.
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thank you sir for your answer.

i also thank you for being here, having some inside voice into a show really does peak interest around here, and i know you know that:smileywink:

 

also, thanks for direct linking, i was going to reply to ask of it, but i was unable to click on the button for it. Too painful.

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[This is Peter, I record the dialogue on the show]

Yonro is really fun to record! Everybody's on a razor's edge of how much nerd information they want to admit they actually know. For example, a lot of people were all like, "Who's Crom?" and I'm all "Duh! He's a deity from Robert E. Howard's Conan mythos!" And everybody's nerd alarms go off simultaneously.

My finest hour was pointing out that the writers misspelled "Wookiee" in the script -- not only did I score, but it also made it into the show!