The Swim Archive

[SwimMod_Luuv]

Hey, both threads tapped out at about the same time.

this is a thread to discuss moderation on the boards in general. 

Feel free to discuss mods and moderation, and ask general questions.  This thread isn't quite as narrow in scope as the floated "hey mod" thread which is more a place for users to get specific information about specific things mods have done.

to them.

for fun.

this thread is more just a general topical discussion about moderation, mods and the boards.

So gogogo.

link to #1?

Message Edited by SwimMod_Luuv on 08-14-2007 03:12 AM

[Markoff_Cheney]

oh man, you gotta get better with timing.  i had a several paragraph post in that other thread and by the time it was fleshed out and i hit submit, i got the deleted thing.
in summary, i was being snarky, i know how this place goes with moddin. you guys are only so plentiful and so robotic.  old users got a bug up their **bleep** because we can cling to specific instances of percieved misjudgement, etc etc...
jeffchao spends all his time here complaining about how everyone hates him like its a conspiracy, i dont get why he is still here, but hey, thats his choice and he had better be prepared to take the flac for it.  god knows ive dealt some his way.
edit: by the time i got through all the crap with this post, seems to have been dealt with.

Message Edited by Markoff_Cheney on 08-07-2007 07:49 AM

[SwimMod_Luuv]

You can't continue this part of the conversation because I already got the last word.

[SwimMod_Luuv]

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Markoff_Cheney wrote:
oh man, you gotta get better with timing.  i had a several paragraph post in that other thread and by the time it was fleshed out and i hit submit, i got the deleted thing.
in summary, i was being snarky, i know how this place goes with moddin. you guys are only so plentiful and so robotic.  old users got a bug up their **bleep** because we can cling to specific instances of percieved misjudgement, etc etc...
jeffchao spends all his time here complaining about how everyone hates him like its a conspiracy, i dont get why he is still here, but hey, thats his choice and he had better be prepared to take the flac for it.  god knows ive dealt some his way.
edit: by the time i got through all the crap with this post, seems to have been dealt with.

Message Edited by Markoff_Cheney on 08-07-2007 07:49 AM

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argh to be serious though - I hate that.  It happens to me all the time because I am so wordy.

other mods tease me for that.

the other mods are going to get it 

And I get that Jeff can be annoying.  But I don't think there's a lot he can do about it.

Sorry about the post, I just noticed both threads were over 5k and figured it'd be a good time to hit both of them since they're kinda linked. 

Message Edited by SwimMod_Luuv on 08-07-2007 09:57 AM

[kill-joy70]

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Markoff_Cheney wrote:

jeffchao spends all his time here complaining about how everyone hates him like its a conspiracy, i dont get why he is still here, but hey, thats his choice and he had better be prepared to take the flac for it.  god knows ive dealt some his way.

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I often wondered that myself.

[SwimMod_Luuv]

I think the mistake you're making is in equating it with choice.

One of the things that autism does is kind of limits your range of responses in a sense.  You can get stuck in ruts too. 

Think of it as - sometimes your brain just sends you the wrong emotional signals about what's going on.  And you literally have no way of knowing innately that they're the wrong signals.

Now - imagine how hard that would be to live with and navigate through even without people going out of their way to pick at you, accuse you of being able to do something you can't always do.

Kind of like - if you were to walk up to a sheer wall of ice that was 20 feet high, and were supposed to climb it without any equipment or anything, just - climb it in 60 seconds.  No help.  No tools or anything - go.

Is it reasonable to expect you to take flac for not being able to do it?  Would it be reasonable for people to pick at you for not being able to do something you simply aren't equipped to do?

Just speaking as a moderator - I'm not going to go around banning people just for not understanding how an autistic person's mind works. 

But - as a person I think it makes us stronger if we at least try to understand where people are coming from.

The other part of it is - given the combination of the perceptive and social hurdles, and the fact that people can be mean - I mean even without being paranoid, people can be really put off by something like autism, especially if they don't know what it is or that a person even has it, I'm amazed every day by what he's able to accomplish socially. 

That he can get out of bed and jump into the world in any way at all, is something that I have to tell you I'm often awestruck by.

I have all the same communication problems with him that everybody else does, but I tell you he just amazes me.

[kill-joy70]

It would seem to me that it was, and I try to leave him alone as much as possible.

But he comes on every once in a while with an agenda for cramming some information about Aspergers down the members throats, and honestly not too many people here really want to hear it. Then these threads usually deteriorate into something other that his intended topic and the self persecution begins. I see it as a pattern. So, I'm also left to believe that he's doing it by choice and for reasons only he would know.

Don't get me wrong, I think Jeff's a nice guy, but when he gets started there's no calming him down. He also has stated things about PMing the mods and admins, and has listed certain one's he gives the impression that he has some sort of persuasive ability with. Kinda like saying that they are "in his pocket" so to speak.

[scrapyard]

djever think u mite be the crazy one

[kill-joy70]

You know it!

[Ghost_of_a_Librarian]

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SwimMod_Luuv wrote:

I think the mistake you're making is in equating it with choice.

One of the things that autism does is kind of limits your range of responses in a sense.  You can get stuck in ruts too. 

Think of it as - sometimes your brain just sends you the wrong emotional signals about what's going on.  And you literally have no way of knowing innately that they're the wrong signals.

Now - imagine how hard that would be to live with and navigate through even without people going out of their way to pick at you, accuse you of being able to do something you can't always do.

Kind of like - if you were to walk up to a sheer wall of ice that was 20 feet high, and were supposed to climb it without any equipment or anything, just - climb it in 60 seconds.  No help.  No tools or anything - go.

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Actually it's even worse than your description because most people couldn't climb that 20 foot ice wall.  Imagine that the wall is something that other people are able to climb over with ease every day.  That's why they don't understand why you can't climb that wall and why they think you are choosing not to do it.

On moving threads -- I wish the FMA general discussion threads could be moved to archives but since they're pretty big I heard that it wasn't possible.  Is that true?

[SwimMod_Luuv]

It's true that larger threads can sometimes cause problems when moving them around.

But I have checked out the discussion a few times and the times I saw it, I definitely think it's archive worthy.

Link me to the original discussion and I'll see what I can do.

[PenguinBoss]

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SwimMod_Luuv wrote:
Link me to the original discussion and I'll see what I can do.

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Link

Unless something has changed, this is the biggest single thread ever.

[SwimMod_Luuv]

Wow actually that is an extremely large thread.

I'm kind of afraid to try to move it, because moving something that big, we've had problems before with severe truncation (like losing over half the thread) and other types of mangleation.

[NoProof91]

Wow that has to be the biggest thread I have ever seen.

[mahala_la_la]

It isn't.  There is a thread from OA that was larger.

G.E.L.L.H.A doesn't count, people.

[info]  That thread should be kept up-to-date with newer large threads.

Message Edited by mahala_la_la on 08-08-2007 04:43 PM

[PenguinBoss]

That one doesn't count >_>

[mahala_la_la]

It still wouldn't be the largest.

[PenguinBoss]

Those other ones don't count, either <_<

[mahala_la_la]

I say, you don't count. >.>

[PenguinBoss]

I say, your face doesn't count >_>

[mahala_la_la]

No, but my fingers do.  So there!

[PenguinBoss]

Noez! I lost! *melts*

[NoProof91]

Whats the GELLHA thread?

[mahala_la_la]

A series of threads from Babbling.  GELLHA stands for: Good, Evil, Life, Love, Hate, Anime.

Archives, away!!

[NoProof91]

Oh ok....how did that thing reach 20,000 before getting closed.