Tim & Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!

[mccabe]

am i the only one who hates this show i love tim and eric inm just not in to this show

[Snowy1]

How [as] screens for drugs:
"Before you give a urine sample, do you like Tim and Eric?"
"Yes"
"You failed the drug test."
















(this is a joke ofcourse)

[GodspreadThin]

You have been around these boards before, right?

[inumorganna]

I totally agree with you, I like Tim and Eric but the show is just completely uninteresting. It's  actually pretty annoying, I've always enjoyed pretty much everything they have put on here but this. I really do miss home movies too. That show actually had a point to it, I wouldn't call it funny but it at least had a point to it.

[Mablak]

Different pokes for different folks, caypaish?

[Bril]

inumorganna, you might be the only person that I have ever came across that has said more than "I hate tim & eric" going into why, kudos.

[Adoko91]

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GodspreadThin wrote:
You have been around these boards before, right?

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You haven't read my thread mccabe?

I understand that it's pretty long considering all the T&E ass kicking I dish out.

[Adoko91]

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mccabe wrote:

am i the only one who hates this show i love tim and eric inm just not in to this show

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I understand completely

Though people on here don't tend to believe it I actually enjoyed TGTTM(Tom Goes To The Mayor)

For me it's all about the story and T&EASGJ has no story at all.

TGTTM at least had a small amount of plot and cohesiveness.

That's how you really get a grasp for characters lives and situations.

Once you can empathize with a character then you laugh with them, not at them. Which is more wholesome.

T&EASGJ got by on shock value.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor.

It's kinda reminiscent of celebrities nowadays being famous despite having any real talent.

[Adoko91]

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Bril wrote:
inumorganna, you might be the only person that I have ever came across that has said more than "I hate tim & eric" going into why, kudos.

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Have you read my thread Bril?

BTW mccabe you mentioning not liking T&EASGJ should generate a lot of responses.

Pro T&E topics are just too boring and die quickly.

[Uppercrust]

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Adoko91 wrote:

Though people on here don't tend to believe it I actually enjoyed TGTTM(Tom Goes To The Mayor)

For me it's all about the story and T&EASGJ has no story at all.

TGTTM at least had a small amount of plot and cohesiveness.

That's how you really get a grasp for characters lives and situations.

Once you can empathize with a character then you laugh with them, not at them. Which is more wholesome.

T&EASGJ got by on shock value.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor.

It's kinda reminiscent of celebrities nowadays being famous despite having any real talent.

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It's foremostly a sketch show, but that doesn't mean that the show doesn't have a story at all. 

Jean-Luc Godard, a cinematographer and director from the French New Wave, once said: "A story should have a beginning, a middle, and an end... but not necessarily in that order."

 "

Some episodes even connect to each other.

For example:

  The last episode of season one, Missing, ended on a cliff hanger in which Casey wanders off and is picked up by Steve Mahanahan.

The first episode of season two, Vacation, carries on with that story.  The van that Steve Mahanahan and Casey are in spontaneously combusts and they are both reported dead in the wreck by Uncle Muscles.

Then, some three seasons later, in the third episode of season 5, Casey Reanimated, Casey is brought back from the dead for a while by his brother, who rebuilds him from remains found in the forest.

The show is unlinear by and large, but there are recurring characters and bits that are easy to spot, dude.  Carol and Mr. Henderson,  Dr. Steve, Married News Team, The Cinco legacy.

And if you look at any episode of Awesome Show, there is a loose-narrative stringing the episode as a whole together. 

In the Coma episode, Eric overdoses on Waitmate in anticipation for Tim's birthday party and he is put into a vegitative state.  Zan rehibilitates Eric through some instructional video tapes.  Eric ends up making it to Tim's birthday at the end of the episode. 

The show does have a plot if you look at it. 

A running plot isn't exactly what makes or breaks a connection, dude.  One can relate to a single skit as well. 

What makes you think anything malicious, like laughing at someone, is going on in awesome show?   Tim and Eric make it a point to treat their co-stars with respect.  They look at the cast of the show as a family of sorts.  It's really cool.

I have never laughed at someone on Awesome Show.

Shock value, lolno.  No show airs for 5 full seasons plus a holliday special on the intial shock value alone. 

Except it's not. 

[Bril]

I apologize for I have not, but I will find it now.

[VTEKID]

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Adoko91 wrote:

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mccabe wrote:

am i the only one who hates this show i love tim and eric inm just not in to this show

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I understand completely

Though people on here don't tend to believe it I actually enjoyed TGTTM(Tom Goes To The Mayor)

For me it's all about the story and T&EASGJ has no story at all.

TGTTM at least had a small amount of plot and cohesiveness.

That's how you really get a grasp for characters lives and situations.

Once you can empathize with a character then you laugh with them, not at them. Which is more wholesome.

T&EASGJ got by on shock value.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor.

It's kinda reminiscent of celebrities nowadays being famous despite having any real talent.

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Awesome Show had no story because it was a SKETCH COMEDY SHOW. 

Tim and Eric got by because they have legions of fans the world over who tuned into Awesome Show any time it was on. You don't last five full seasons on TV because of pure luck. 

[Uppercrust]

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Adoko91 wrote:

For me it's all about the story and T&EASGJ has no story at all.

TGTTM at least had a small amount of plot and cohesiveness.

That's how you really get a grasp for characters lives and situations.

Once you can empathize with a character then you laugh with them, not at them. Which is more wholesome.

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Also, Adoko, SNL, one of the longest running current comedy programs, doesn't have a plot, but that doesn't stop you and many others from liking it.  Ya get it?  You're just being selective.

Not everything needs to be tethered down to understand.

If you want wholesome, go watch reruns of The Brady Bunch. 

But by the definition of wholesome itself, Steve Brule is one of the most wholesome characters of all time.

[Adoko91]

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Uppercrust wrote:

It's foremostly a sketch show, but that doesn't mean that the show doesn't have a story at all. 

Jean-Luc Godard, a cinematographer and director from the French New Wave, once said: "A story should have a beginning, a middle, and an end... but not necessarily in that order."

 "

Some episodes even connect to each other.

For example:

  The last episode of season one, Missing, ended on a cliff hanger in which Casey wanders off and is picked up by Steve Mahanahan.

The first episode of season two, Vacation, carries on with that story.  The van that Steve Mahanahan and Casey are in spontaneously combusts and they are both reported dead in the wreck by Uncle Muscles.

Then, some three seasons later, in the third episode of season 5, Casey Reanimated, Casey is brought back from the dead for a while by his brother, who rebuilds him from remains found in the forest.

The show is unlinear by and large, but there are recurring characters and bits that are easy to spot, dude.  Carol and Mr. Henderson,  Dr. Steve, Married News Team, The Cinco legacy.

And if you look at any episode of Awesome Show, there is a loose-narrative stringing the episode as a whole together. 

In the Coma episode, Eric overdoses on Waitmate in anticipation for Tim's birthday party and he is put into a vegitative state.  Zan rehibilitates Eric through some instructional video tapes.  Eric ends up making it to Tim's birthday at the end of the episode. 

The show does have a plot if you look at it. 

A running plot isn't exactly what makes or breaks a connection, dude.  One can relate to a single skit as well. 

What makes you think anything malicious, like laughing at someone, is going on in awesome show?   Tim and Eric make it a point to treat their co-stars with respect.  They look at the cast of the show as a family of sorts.  It's really cool.

I have never laughed at someone on Awesome Show.

Shock value, lolno.  No show airs for 5 full seasons plus a holliday special on the intial shock value alone. 

Except it's not. 

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Foremostly isn't a word.

I couldn't understand the rest.

All I read was "blah blah blah Tim and Eric are great and I wish I could have their babies except it's impossible since I'm male blah blah blah"

[Uppercrust]

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Adoko91 wrote:

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Uppercrust wrote:

It's foremostly a sketch show, but that doesn't mean that the show doesn't have a story at all. 

Jean-Luc Godard, a cinematographer and director from the French New Wave, once said: "A story should have a beginning, a middle, and an end... but not necessarily in that order."

 "

Some episodes even connect to each other.

For example:

  The last episode of season one, Missing, ended on a cliff hanger in which Casey wanders off and is picked up by Steve Mahanahan.

The first episode of season two, Vacation, carries on with that story.  The van that Steve Mahanahan and Casey are in spontaneously combusts and they are both reported dead in the wreck by Uncle Muscles.

Then, some three seasons later, in the third episode of season 5, Casey Reanimated, Casey is brought back from the dead for a while by his brother, who rebuilds him from remains found in the forest.

The show is unlinear by and large, but there are recurring characters and bits that are easy to spot, dude.  Carol and Mr. Henderson,  Dr. Steve, Married News Team, The Cinco legacy.

And if you look at any episode of Awesome Show, there is a loose-narrative stringing the episode as a whole together. 

In the Coma episode, Eric overdoses on Waitmate in anticipation for Tim's birthday party and he is put into a vegitative state.  Zan rehibilitates Eric through some instructional video tapes.  Eric ends up making it to Tim's birthday at the end of the episode. 

The show does have a plot if you look at it. 

A running plot isn't exactly what makes or breaks a connection, dude.  One can relate to a single skit as well. 

What makes you think anything malicious, like laughing at someone, is going on in awesome show?   Tim and Eric make it a point to treat their co-stars with respect.  They look at the cast of the show as a family of sorts.  It's really cool.

I have never laughed at someone on Awesome Show.

Shock value, lolno.  No show airs for 5 full seasons plus a holliday special on the intial shock value alone. 

Except it's not. 

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Foremostly isn't a word.

I couldn't understand the rest.

All I read was "blah blah blah Tim and Eric are great and I wish I could have their babies except it's impossible since I'm male blah blah blah"

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Actually, it is according to many reputable dictionary sites.   Merriam Webster

Can't understand it?  You say youi've seen every Awesome Show episode.  This shouldn't be hard for you to follow, then.  I even cite episode names.  I'm starting to think that you are a liar, and have been fibbing about that this whole time.

So I refute your statement that episodes of Awesome Show have no plot at all with EVIDENCE  from the show. 

And you come back with...with that.  That kind of post is a cop-out if I ever saw one!  You're straying away from actual discussion.  You're being immature.

[VTEKID]

Wait a minute, this guy  has seen every episode of Awesome Show?

Adoko, you don't watch all 50 some episodes of a show if you hate it. I cannot stand Moral Orel, and do you know how many episodes of that I've seen? Two. I'm with Uppercrust, you're a huge liar who's just been hanging around in the T&E folder just to stir up sh!t. 

[mastershakesbaby]

No, it's not my cup of tea either.

[DeathByColeslaw]

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Adoko91 wrote:

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mccabe wrote:

am i the only one who hates this show i love tim and eric inm just not in to this show

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I understand completely

Though people on here don't tend to believe it I actually enjoyed TGTTM(Tom Goes To The Mayor)

For me it's all about the story and T&EASGJ has no story at all.

TGTTM at least had a small amount of plot and cohesiveness.

That's how you really get a grasp for characters lives and situations.

Once you can empathize with a character then you laugh with them, not at them. Which is more wholesome.

T&EASGJ got by on shock value.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor.

It's kinda reminiscent of celebrities nowadays being famous despite having any real talent.

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Other posters have already pointed out the obvious by reminding you that Awesome show is a sketch comedy show, therefore plot is irrelevant.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor, as you put it, is a phenomenon that exists only among old people. Television is by no means 'shocking' to anyone under 50 in this day and age. The internet is the cultural lightning rod of our time, television took a back seat to it years ago.

The reason Awesome show has lasted so long, and has so many fans is simple; Tim and Eric are good at timing, and good at being timeless.

Timing is key in any form of comedy. Without good timing, you don't have good comedy, it's honestly as simple as that. This is especially true when dealing with the 'awkward' or 'weird'  humor that Tim and Eric have become known for. There is a scene in Borat that pokes fun at comedians with bad timing (in a literal way, but the rule still holds true)

A show being timeless means anyone can understand it, no matter how long after its creation it's being watched. Take SNL, for example. Watch an episode from 1996; it may still be pretty funny, but since you can't remember the tiny details of what was going on during that week in 1996, most of the humor will be lost on you. There are younger viewers who not only don't understand how funny and spot-on Phil Hartman's Bill Clinton impression is, but they don't even know who Phil Hartman is.

Tim and Eric rarely (if ever) make jokes about current events, which makes their show funny to anyone, no matter how aware of the world they may be. Having a universal appeal is very hard, ask anyone who writes comedy. Any **tut-tut** with a typewriter and come up with a joke about George Bush or Charlie Sheen, but it's too easy because the jokes are written for you by the nightly news.

Kids in the Hall (my personal vote for greatest sketch show of all time) had comedy nailed down flawlessly. They could make any situation funny. (including a 10 minute sketch about an apparently mentally challenged man desparately hungering for sausages) After KITH, Mr. Show picked up the awkward comedy torch and ran with it, it wasn't as popular as KITH and it didn't last as long, but they were great at what they did and they created an awkward, bizarre work of art. Now Awesome show has the spotlight. In fact, Odenkirk and Cross (formerly of Mr. Show) frequently appear on Awesome show, and to my knowledge also write for them occasionally. The point is: there will always be a sketch show that has its finger on the pulse of subversive culture and is appealing in a very simple way.

Their show reflects a culture that grew up watching crappy late-night infomercials and it does so in the most perfect way possible.

You might not like the show, which is fine. I don't think anyone who likes T&E would blame you, but at least admit you just don't like it, rather than come up with reasons that the show is objectively bad. It all boils down to opinion, and in this case your opinion is that the show is not funny. Saying a show is popular because of 'shock value' is insulting to the people who consider themselves fans.

[DeathByColeslaw]

I apologize for the rant ha ha. Also, S.chmuck got consored and that made me laugh.

[Uppercrust]

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DeathByColeslaw wrote:

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Adoko91 wrote:

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mccabe wrote:

am i the only one who hates this show i love tim and eric inm just not in to this show

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I understand completely

Though people on here don't tend to believe it I actually enjoyed TGTTM(Tom Goes To The Mayor)

For me it's all about the story and T&EASGJ has no story at all.

TGTTM at least had a small amount of plot and cohesiveness.

That's how you really get a grasp for characters lives and situations.

Once you can empathize with a character then you laugh with them, not at them. Which is more wholesome.

T&EASGJ got by on shock value.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor.

It's kinda reminiscent of celebrities nowadays being famous despite having any real talent.

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Other posters have already pointed out the obvious by reminding you that Awesome show is a sketch comedy show, therefore plot is irrelevant.

The "I can't believe this is on TV" factor, as you put it, is a phenomenon that exists only among old people. Television is by no means 'shocking' to anyone under 50 in this day and age. The internet is the cultural lightning rod of our time, television took a back seat to it years ago.

The reason Awesome show has lasted so long, and has so many fans is simple; Tim and Eric are good at timing, and good at being timeless.

Timing is key in any form of comedy. Without good timing, you don't have good comedy, it's honestly as simple as that. This is especially true when dealing with the 'awkward' or 'weird'  humor that Tim and Eric have become known for. There is a scene in Borat that pokes fun at comedians with bad timing (in a literal way, but the rule still holds true)

A show being timeless means anyone can understand it, no matter how long after its creation it's being watched. Take SNL, for example. Watch an episode from 1996; it may still be pretty funny, but since you can't remember the tiny details of what was going on during that week in 1996, most of the humor will be lost on you. There are younger viewers who not only don't understand how funny and spot-on Phil Hartman's Bill Clinton impression is, but they don't even know who Phil Hartman is.

Tim and Eric rarely (if ever) make jokes about current events, which makes their show funny to anyone, no matter how aware of the world they may be. Having a universal appeal is very hard, ask anyone who writes comedy. Any **tut-tut** with a typewriter and come up with a joke about George Bush or Charlie Sheen, but it's too easy because the jokes are written for you by the nightly news.

Kids in the Hall (my personal vote for greatest sketch show of all time) had comedy nailed down flawlessly. They could make any situation funny. (including a 10 minute sketch about an apparently mentally challenged man desparately hungering for sausages) After KITH, Mr. Show picked up the awkward comedy torch and ran with it, it wasn't as popular as KITH and it didn't last as long, but they were great at what they did and they created an awkward, bizarre work of art. Now Awesome show has the spotlight. In fact, Odenkirk and Cross (formerly of Mr. Show) frequently appear on Awesome show, and to my knowledge also write for them occasionally. The point is: there will always be a sketch show that has its finger on the pulse of subversive culture and is appealing in a very simple way.

Their show reflects a culture that grew up watching crappy late-night infomercials and it does so in the most perfect way possible.

You might not like the show, which is fine. I don't think anyone who likes T&E would blame you, but at least admit you just don't like it, rather than come up with reasons that the show is objectively bad. It all boils down to opinion, and in this case your opinion is that the show is not funny. Saying a show is popular because of 'shock value' is insulting to the people who consider themselves fans.

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Excellent post.  Nice coverage on sketch comedy history.

As for the "I can't believe this is on TV factor" I can pretty much agree with what you touched on.  My dad was a teenager when Mork and Mindy came out, and at the time that show was considered pretty bizzare.  My dad's dad (my grandpa) would never watch it with him because he thought it was pointless and stupid.  Fast forward to the present day.  My dad, now grown up with children of his own, doesn't understand the appeal of Awesome Show/Tim and Eric's style of humor.  He prefers Everybody Loves Raymond.  It's his opinion.  I'm fine with that.

It's weird, though, to think into the future and wonder if there will be a show that will ruffle my feathers in my later adulthood. 

I'm glad you talked about timing. 

Just look at anything Tim and Eric do.  Notice that the awkward pauses are just right.  Notice how perfect Tim's stammering and nervousness is.  It's not something that everybody can do.  Awesome Show is paced well, too.  They never stay with one sketch too long.

Or look at Tim's series of standup videos that are available on his youtube account.  That's a character he's playing.

Yeah, thinking that the fans stay around for the shock value, as he calls it, is just flat out wrong.

I know I don't anticipate Tim and Eric productions and think, "Man, I just can't wait to be shocked!"

That would be dumb.  I watch Tim and Eric productions to laugh and be entertained.  If I wanted to be shocked I could just get Spagett to do it for me.

[DeathByColeslaw]

Spooked ya!

[Uppercrust]

Ya got me friend.

[RaLyr]

Honestly DeathByColeslaw, those crappy infomercials that you speak of have more entertainment value than T & E.  Many skit comedies that are/were based on satire, tongue-in-cheek, shtick etc. etc. have enjoyed success.  The problem with T & E is that it seems like very little thought has been put into it and what little thought has been put into it lacks comedic value.  They do attempt to get by on shock value.  As for the people who like T & E, they simply like this sort of show because they are humored by shock.  I find it disturbing that someone might actually enjoy this show, but hey, to each their own.

However to compare T & E to great shows like SNL or even the old Carol Brunett Show by explaining skit history and form, is not only a stretch, but something that passes the event horizon.  Indeed shows, though not exhaustive, like the Carol Brunett, Monty Python's Flying Circus, Laugh-In, and In living Color all brought something new and fresh to comedy that a broad range of people could relate to.  Innovative means working hard to find comedy that will actually stimulate the mind in a wide variety of people.  To appeal to 1 in 10,000 people potentially watching any given network and expect people to be happy about it, wel now that's comedy...LOL.  A little more seriously though, I hear people saying what genius T & E is and how it is so intelligent.  I actually see it as an attempt to dumb down comedy.  Even if they could make their skits funny or entertaining it is more than disturbing to think that this is what is accepted by today's standard as intelligent or genius.  If I were to be brutally honest, in a Tim & Eric kind of way, this show is about as fresh as a tampon that has not been changed for five days and the woman wearing it died of toxic shock syndrome three days ago.  Shocking, yes.  Funny, no.

[VTEKID]

You killed my rascal!!!

[KnightStar]

No I dislike the show as well as do a lot of other people on the asmb, and also I dislike that anyone would ever call Tim and or Eric a comedian for that matter.

So to me their work is pretty personal, I see everything they do as an affront to true comedians.

I have said it many times before and will again here, Tim and Eric don't deserve to crawl ten miles in broken glass to grovel in the shadow of Moe Howard just to ask how real comedy is made.