Toonami

[SpaceshipEDM]

The Flicks on saturday night.

When toonami was cancelled, we were set up for saturday nights to be dominated by usually like 1-3 star kids movies, sometimes getting some incredibly popular and successful movies like transformers, some 3-D animations like Monster House, and some action animated movies (they played batman a while back).

So I want to know, what are the ratings that The Flicks manages to attain? are they acceptable at all?

If the Flicks isn't doing too hot, why don't we think of some nice compromises for saturday night programs on CN?

[-Dudeco-]

Toonami was canceled due to declining ratings. Unlike [AS], ratings are everything to CN.

As of now, the only anime that they even continue to air are long runners that are backed up with toy deals. Anything else just doesn't stand a chance anymore.

[SpaceshipEDM]

With the extreme opposition to anime on CN, I am aware that anime itself is likely not to air for a very very long time unless it's some generic kodomo anime.

[NemesisPrimev2]

I bleave that was the reasoon they canceled Symbionic Titan because they didn't have a toy line.

Sad really, my little brother liked that show.

[SpaceshipEDM]

I think it's safe to say everyone here on [as] toonami boards is in love with that series and wishes it could've gotten more episodes. Even when I watched it in 2008 I was like "well this is a step in the right direction." 

[BoanThugsInHarmony]

Sym BIonic Titan came out in 2010.

[-Gaynor79-]

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-Dudeco- wrote:

Toonami was canceled due to declining ratings. Unlike [AS], ratings are everything to CN.

As of now, the only anime that they even continue to air are long runners that are backed up with toy deals. Anything else just doesn't stand a chance anymore.

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CN just picked up Scan2Go. There's a thread about it in OA. So, looks like they are getting more anime.

[AstroBoyFan]

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-Dudeco- wrote:

Toonami was canceled due to declining ratings. Unlike [AS], ratings are everything to CN.

As of now, the only anime that they even continue to air are long runners that are backed up with toy deals. Anything else just doesn't stand a chance anymore.

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Toonami was a painful cancellation for me and almost certainly you as well. When Toonami left, as Sketchor put it, I didn't just lose interest in Cartoon Network, I lost interest in TV in general. The atmosphere drew me in and made me want to see more of it and the shows they provided. Without the block, I wouldn't know where to go for a hobby with my interest in video games declining day by day.

Eventually, I did get over it, but I always remembered the good times with Toonami and when I did, all those memories of those shows makes me wish Toonami had never left. But what is the most insulting is not the cancellation itself, but that Cartoon Network shows almost no respect to the legacy of the block after it's death. We didn't get to see a proper closure to the block and it was completely forgotten by the company. It doesn't help that Staurt Snyder has an irrational haterd of anime, when it's cartoon in Japan.

I never thought the day would ever happen that Toonami would have the return (or at least a proper ending) it deserved. But the fact that it did return is what I would call a miracle. This realistically shouldn't have been possible, but it did and because it did, I am going to give it full support that it needs so it not only survives, but show that there is more to cartoon than American comedy and comic book super heroes adaptation (not that those are bad, but more variety is needed) and that cartoons can appeal to all ages, not just kids (with more exceptions than raunchy comedies).

[-Dudeco-]

Oh, you can bet your ass that I believe that there is more to anime than just the toyetic stuff that CN offers. I have quite the library of non toyetic artsy fartsy anime.

In this day and age, only a small handful of TV channels even show anime to begin with and this is a trend that I believe the reasoning behind it is because many people (Casual trendy, non internet using avid Family Guy watchers) don'tlike anime. Stuart Snyder himself not liking anime may reflect on the key demographic not liking it.

Thats why I'm glad we have a block like Toonami to prove that an anime doesn't have to be toyetic in order to be good or financially viable. Its art, for goodness sake.

[Ryugetsu]

Well Toonami was cancelled because of corporate interference and they pulled it off the weekday and put in miguzi (worst idea ever, was also the begining of the end) then it was only on one day a week and people wanted to watch it every weekday (me included) Its amazing how greed can perverse a concept that wasn't losing any money and only started to lose money because they messed it up.

[-Dudeco-]

Thats Miguzi! The poor man's Toonami!

[Ashelia]

CN will always pick up more anime just not the idk cool ones the most vocal anime fans want. Scan2Go is another shonen toy based show that will air to make money, it's baiscally Beyblade with cars.

[Sketchor]

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SpaceshipEDM wrote:

The Flicks on saturday night.

When toonami was cancelled, we were set up for saturday nights to be dominated by usually like 1-3 star kids movies, sometimes getting some incredibly popular and successful movies like transformers, some 3-D animations like Monster House, and some action animated movies (they played batman a while back).

So I want to know, what are the ratings that The Flicks manages to attain? are they acceptable at all?

If the Flicks isn't doing too hot, why don't we think of some nice compromises for saturday night programs on CN?

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The Flicks does pretty well sometimes exceptionally well but usually at least a million total viewers tune in every week and sometimes it gets better 18-49 ratings than Adult Swim prime time. That's gotta sting.

However I'd like to see The Flicks move earlier or get the boot in favor of DC Nation and ThunderCats airing in prime time. Possibly with Star Wars or maybe even a non-toyetic anime before Adult Swim.

[Sketchor]

Here's some ratings data

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs

2.231 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/02/24/cable-ratings-february-13-1
9-2012/

Who Framed Roger Rabbit

1.616 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/02/15/cable-ratings-february-6-12
-2012/

Spy Kids 3: Game Over

1.662 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/02/07/cable-ratings-january-30-fe
bruary-5-2012/

Open Season 3

2.119 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/02/02/cable-ratings-january-23-29
-2012/

Shrek the Third

3.058 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/01/27/cable-ratings-january-16-22
-2012/

Garfield Gets Real

1.468 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/01/22/cable-ratings-january-9-15-
2012/

Surf's Up

1.383 million viewers

http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/01/12/cable-ratings-january-2-8-2
012/

How does the rest of CN compare to that you ask?

New episodes of Adventure Time and Regular Show typically get around 2.5 million total viewers. Most premieres get at least 1.5 million but some sink below that (Generator Rex before it was cancelled).

Here's some recent Saturday morning action viewership to compare it to

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/06/05/sunday-cable-ratings-
nba-playoffs-game-of-thrones-finale...

ThunderCats (Cartoon Network)
-9:30 AM: 1.428 million viewers, 0.43 A18-49

Green Lantern (Cartoon Network) - this was a rerun
-10 AM: 1.298 million viewers, 0.41 A18-49

Young Justice: Invasion (Cartoon Network)
-10:30 AM: 1.944 million viewers, 0.64 A18-49

The 6-11 ratings for ThunderCats, GLTAS and Young Justice range between 1.3 and 2.1 with kids 6-11. That's not millions for the record. A 1.0 with kids 6-11 is only about 200,000 viewers so a 2.0 is about 400,000 so they're generally getting below 500,000 kids 6-11. Which doesn't give them much grounds to take The Flick's time slot because those movies likely pull in far better. But I think those shows could do just as well as anything besides the really big movies in those time slots.

[elfie]

I LOVED Cloudy!  I'm so happy it got the ratings it got, even if CN ran the movie with very low volume.