Toonami

[countfrylock]

once they end we got nothing but freaking bleach to look forward to....adult swim needs another long running anime otherwise I'll quit tuning in...

i don't like bleach and i certainly don't like watching cowboy bebop and ghost in the shell get driven into the ground

[HGRevolution]

Why not get more short animes? If they keep getting short animes, then if you don't like one, then it's not going to stick around forever like Bleach is. And most long series turn to crap at some point anyway.

[Doom_Metal_Alchemist]

So you don't like Bleach. I don't like Bleach either. Wanna know why? Because it lasts for fricken ever. The same thing happened with Inuyasha. It was really popular until we all realized it had 50 million episodes. I think FMA had just the right amount of episodes, but stuff like Drrr!!!, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, etc had a good number of eps too.

[Darkstar_Zero]

There's only 110 or so episodes left. Endure it!!

[countfrylock]

because it always takes too long to get more...and you have to put up with seeing the same episodes of certain animes more times than you would like....animes that just end with no conclusion it just stops...that annoys me

it makes me feel like i wasted all that time watching the show just to be told I'm not getting a proper ending but instead the credits roll and nothing is resolved

[-SparkimusPrime-]

I hear ya about Bebop and GITS 2nd Gig.  Both are great shows but they have been run into the ground.  Ofcourse with Toonami drawing in large viewership numbers some people may be experiencing them for the first time. 

I think 26 to 52 episode seinens are great compliments to long running shonens.  That was  Toonami's model back in the golden age.  They built the block up around DBZ, which like Bleach drew in the ratings, and surrounded it with shorter shows like Outlaw Star, Gundam Wing and Ruroni Kenshin. 

I imagine they will pick up another long running series in the future.  However, I like the idea of a revolving door of seinens.  It allows us to experience more. 

I hope you stick around.  Toonami needs all the support it can get.

[NoireAirwave]

26-52 ep anime's work best. 13 eps are ok but you can get tired with reruns. Long running take up too much time and space. At this time 1 long running anime is ok but do would be destructive. In the future maybe 2 but that is if there is an expansion.

[-SparkimusPrime-]

I agree.

I hope the block is successful to the point where it can expand, providing 1 or 2 long running shonens and a number of shorter seinens.  Perhaps we'll see that happen if this experiement succeeds.

[F4ceYourFe4rs]

I think AS Toonami will stick with short anime when Bleach finishes. As long as it's a one-night only block, there's no point in running a 100+ episode show that will only air once a week. Back in the day before there was online streaming, it was easy to get away with since the only way American viewers could SEE the show was to watch it on TV. But now, if they like a show enough, they'll just watch it online.

[-SparkimusPrime-]

Good point.  I would love to see Toonami expand beyond a once a week thing in the future.

[alexDS]

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F4ceYourFe4rs wrote:
I think AS Toonami will stick with short anime when Bleach finishes. As long as it's a one-night only block, there's no point in running a 100+ episode show that will only air once a week. Back in the day before there was online streaming, it was easy to get away with since the only way American viewers could SEE the show was to watch it on TV. But now, if they like a show enough, they'll just watch it online.

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The thing is, much as most of us here don't like Bleach, it's still the highest rated show they have by a pretty good margin. People like the long runners, they get invested in them and want to keep tuning in.

I don't think having one or maaaaaaaybe two long-runners to kick off the block and pull in viewers (some of whom will hopefully stay for at least one or two shows afterwards) is a bad thing. But then I personally don't hate long-runners just because they're long-runners, I just don't like Bleach specifically very much. Other than one or two shows, though, I agree Toonami should stick to relatively short to mid-length (roughly FMA-length) shows and rotate them out more frequently.

[-Dudeco-]

Because of all of the complaining about the longer animes.

Really, some anime fans are an ungrateful, whiny bunch. They bash long animes for stretching out the story and then they bash short animes for being overplayed. Its like you can never win with those whiny little nerdos.

[-Dudeco-]

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-SparkimusPrime- wrote:

I agree.

I hope the block is successful to the point where it can expand, providing 1 or 2 long running shonens and a number of shorter seinens.  Perhaps we'll see that happen if this experiement succeeds.

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Thats a great idea. Maybe if the block is successful enough, we can work at least 1 more (3 total) long shonen in there for good measure. I personally like both types of anime because with short seinens you don't have to worry about a stretched out story that gets old and with long shonens you don't have to worry about getting bored (Because of the sheer fun of the show) or the show becoming overplayed.

[illucio]

Mainly because you will be stuck watching them for a while, and you don't want to cut them short because that will anger the fanbase.

There should only be 1 to 2 shows that have 100+ shows on Toonami at the most. The rest should be short so we can keep getting something fresh and new.

[aSky]

The thing that destroys long running shows like Bleach is that you may not like them for whatever reason! If they pick up a long running show that you don't like you have to endure it!
It is true that Bleach can pick up fans but the sad thing about Bleach is that everyone has been enduring a show that some don't like. And for a long running show like Bleach on ASyou have to watch it every Saturday for 366 WEEKS to finish it!

That's what makes short animes amazing! They cant burn out! especially if there a good anime like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell! The only shame is that the AS ACTN block never got enough money to dip it in a good anime like a Gundam Series.

Toonami is fool proof no matter what.

Some people come to watch a long series like Bleach.
Some people come back to watch a short series like Durarara.
Some people come back to watch a classic like Cowboy Bebop.
Some come to watch a new series like CasshernSins or Deadman Wonderland.
And some people (like me) come back just to see TOM and weekly updates.

Its a win-win situation no matter what.

[alexDS]

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aSky wrote:
Toonami is fool proof no matter what.

Some people come to watch a long series like Bleach.
Some people come back to watch a short series like Durarara.
Some people come back to watch a classic like Cowboy Bebop.
Some come to watch a new series like CasshernSins or Deadman Wonderland.
And some people (like me) come back just to see TOM and weekly updates.

Its a win-win situation no matter what.

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This guy knows what's up.

[-Dudeco-]

Yes, Toonami is fool proof.

I think that rather than rely on one single type of anime, its good to have both types of anime on the block (Long shonen and short senien) with a fair balanced amout of both shows. That way, fans of both types are pleased.

[BoanThugsInHarmony]

13 episodes is the standard amount for one season these days. They cut the quantity for better quality. Another thing that comes into factor is that animation studios can easily continue the rest of the show if it gets well received, as opposed to the old days where a production studio if the 26 episodes did not meet expectations.

13 episode animes never worked out with Toonami when it was being aired on almost every day of the week, but now that it's aired on a weekly basis, we can get away with it. Deadman isn't suppose to be ending until the 28th of August or something.

[F4ceYourFe4rs]

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-Dudeco- wrote:

Because of all of the complaining about the longer animes.

Really, some anime fans are an ungrateful, whiny bunch. They bash long animes for stretching out the story and then they bash short animes for being overplayed. Its like you can never win with those whiny little nerdos.

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Imagine if Funimation kept dubbing Case Closed (aka Detective Conan)...

[NoireAirwave]

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alexDS wrote:

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aSky wrote:
Toonami is fool proof no matter what.

Some people come to watch a long series like Bleach.
Some people come back to watch a short series like Durarara.
Some people come back to watch a classic like Cowboy Bebop.
Some come to watch a new series like CasshernSins or Deadman Wonderland.
And some people (like me) come back just to see TOM and weekly updates.

Its a win-win situation no matter what.

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This guy knows what's up.

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Eeyup just extend the time a bit and it would be perfect for me.

[alexDS]

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F4ceYourFe4rs wrote:

Imagine if Funimation kept dubbing Case Closed (aka Detective Conan)...

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We'd still be watching it to this day.

.....If it hadn't been cancelled due to low ratings well before Funimation stopped dubbing it, that is.

[onshidesigns]

The best animes are usually the short OVA's and TV series.

Look  at animes like Bleach have long draw out the storylines. That have many unnecessary fights with forgetable villiens.  And many filler episodes (some are good) that don't contribute to the main story.

Good OVA's for Toonami to Play

Tenchi Muyo OVA 1, Tenchi Muyo Ryo-ohki! OVA (AS play both uncut)

Hyakka Ryouran Samurai Girls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LauULRDkzMc

Shigurui http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL033M5y6T4

Samurai 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX5QJ8-b8E8

[Sketchor]

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countfrylock wrote:

once they end we got nothing but freaking bleach to look forward to....adult swim needs another long running anime otherwise I'll quit tuning in...

i don't like bleach and i certainly don't like watching cowboy bebop and ghost in the shell get driven into the ground

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FMAB is 64 episodes, Kekkaishi was 52, Code Geass was 52, Blood+ was 52,  FMA was 52, Shin Chan and Case Closed were both long running series but they didn't run for long.

So what are you asking for exactly more shows that are longer than 52 episodes? Because those pose a significant risk and consider the possibility that another long show may end up being disappointing to you and then you have both Bleach and that other show to sit through or ignore to get to the anime you want to watch.

Short shows are good for a one night a week timeslot and they work fine as long as they keep them coming and don't take long breaks.

If they spend their budget on even 1 more long show on top of Bleach they'd probably have nothing left for other shows.

[BoanThugsInHarmony]

I dont know if this has to do with anything, but the slayers has 104 episodes in total. the original triology had 78 in total? But most people, fans and casia;ls alike, think TRy was bad. So. we could air the first two seasons of the slayers, which equate to 52 episodes.

That's pretty good, use the first slayers and Next as a preliminary run for one year, and if fandemand is big, then we can air TRy and REvolution/E-VolituonR the proceeding year.

[mochi]

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countfrylock wrote:

why does adult swim always get short animes?

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because Japan only makes 12 episode animes now