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Rem and Millie, Take Two!!!!!

For some reason this got deleted, so I'm posting it again since it seemed to be popular! Here goes!:

ON THE SURVIVAL OF REM AND HER RELATIONSHIP TO MILLY

It is my belief that Rem survived the ship explosion and is the great-great-grandmother of Milly.

I started thinking about this when I saw Rem's face for the first time. At first I thought she was Milly! But that was not possible. Milly was too young and besides, Vash surely would know Rem no matter what. And besides looking and sounding like Rem, Milly has the same kind of attitude toward life. Consider Milly's weapon, her Stungun. It's designed to stop people with out killing them or hurting them too badly. And in Escape From Pain, Milly tells Wolfwood that her big sister told her to help people when she could. Just the attitude one would expect from people influenced by someone like Rem. And consider Rem's favorite song, "Sound Life". Vash knows it because he heard Rem sing it. But Kaite and Meryl know it too. Pretty good for a song to last over one hundred years unless someone has been spreading it around. So here's my theory:

Rem left Vash and Knives in an escape pod and went back to the bridge to save the ships. When she got there, she found it was a simple matter to correct the other ship's courses. She then had time to get to another escape pod and leave. But the main ship was too far off course and exploded. The explosion forced Rem's pod far away from the boys' pod and it blended into the debris so that's why Vash didn't see it. Result: Rem lands safely.

Q: Why didn't Rem try to find Vash and Knives?
A: She did, but she didn't know where they landed or even if they landed safely. Besides, she saw how badly the other survivors were equipped to handle this planet, so she put all her effort into helping them. It just the sort of thing she would do. She fell in love, married and had a huge family, including grandchildren and great-grand children. Again, with her love of life, this is the sort of thing she would do. She still tried over the years to find the boys, but we know they didn't encounter other people very often and so Rem didn't have any information to go on.

Q: With Vash's reputation, why didn't Rem find out about him later?
A: Vash's reputation didn't start until the destruction of July (Lost July). By that time she had died of old age.

Q: Why didn't Vash ever remark on the resemblance of Milly to Rem?
A: Remember, Vash thinks Rem is dead. He has no reason to believe she survived.

Q: Why didn't Milly connect Vash various mentions of Rem with her great-great-grandmother?
A: Milly is the youngest of eleven children. Rem died before Milly was born, so Milly would not have any memories of her. Besides, many children don't refer to great-great-grandparents by first name. And, Milly never heard Vash talk about Rem so she would never have made the connection between Rem and her great-great-grand-mother.

Q: Why didn't Milly ever comment on the song?
A: Simple. She never heard Vash sing it. And even if she did, it seems to be common enough that it wouldn't excite comment.

So there you are. I hope, if a sequel to Trigun in made, that one day Vash will find out about Rem and Milly's relationship.

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i highly doubt she died of old age. where the hell did you hear that? im pretty sure she died after saving the people
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She didn't say she heard it anywhere, that's what a "theory" is.
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I thought it was clear I did it all myself. It's just a wishing thing. If you actually READ it ALL, you'd see why it COULD MAYBE be true. Don't take things so seriously, you'll live longer!
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You're one of the few who had the brains to figure it out on your own! *grin*
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Thank you. I have had plenty of experience with people taking things I say to mean different from what I meant (try nearly everything I ever say).
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He should. He always does!
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Believe me, I know how that feels!!!!!
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My husband also theorized that Rem did not die in the crash, but instead landed and lived with the people. I mean, Rem DID have relatives. Remember when Vash finds out about that guy who was related to Rem and when Vash goes to talk to him he finds Knives has already killed him? That's when Vash looses his arm. So the theory isn't as far-fetched as it may initially sound!
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Yes but we msut consider that the man related to here might have decended from someone related to here in the pods, because it never actually says he is directlty decended from her.
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That's alright! If it's not deleted, I can bring it back to life!
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Man I like this thread.
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So do I! *smirk*
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I love the theory, though there's no way to prove it. Regardless, I'm going to think it from now on. :smileyhappy:
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I wish there was a way to make your thoery true that would rock!!!!
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Yay! Thinking is FUN!
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It WOULD be nice if it were true!
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Think of more thoerys cuz I like them
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Yup! And theys fun to think up too!
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Um, I think your Trigun stuff thread got deleted, and just as I was nearly finished reading all 537 posts.... Man, I am beginning to really not like these mods. It seems like they always delete the threads that are actually worth something and keep the mindless crap.
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Well, it DID get deleted, but I posted it AGAIN! Hope it stays on this time!
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